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That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework! That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
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Episodes

Nocturne w/ Wilson Jermaine Heredia

This week, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Nocturne” (Season 1, Episode 21), dissect the sex crimes of a Brooklyn middle school music teacher, and interview the iconic Wilson Jermaine Heredia (Rent). SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The Awareness Center WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles Next week’s episode will be “Manhunt” (Season 2, Episode 18). Support this podcast by shopping our lat...

Jun 24, 20252 hr 2 minEp. 238

Man Up & Man Down w/ Philip Winchester

Today, Kara and Liza discuss two SVU episodes “Man Up” and “Man Down” (Season 20, Episodes 1 & 2). They also cover multiple school shootings and interview the legendary Philip Winchester, otherwise known as ADA Peter Stone. SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The United States Attorney’s Office WPSD WKMS Expert Institute KFVS CBS 12 NBC News NPR WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: How to Address Toxic Masculinity With Boys Next week’s episode will be “Nocturne” (Sea...

Jun 17, 20252 hr 13 minEp. 237

Delinquent w/ Marina Squerciati

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Delinquent” (Season 12, Episode 23), discuss the horrifying murders of Canadian serial killer Cody Legebokoff, and interview the incredible Marina Squerciati (Chicago P.D.). SOURCES: The New York Times New York Post CBC National Post Wikipedia - Cody Legebokoff WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Making A Serial Killer Next week’s episodes will be “Man Up” & “Man Down" (Season 20, Episodes 1 & 2). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promoti...

Jun 10, 20251 hr 49 minEp. 236

And the Empire Strikes Back & Never Turn Your Back on Them w/ Ben Rappaport

This week, Kara and Liza cover two SVU episodes: “And the Empire Strikes Back” and “Never Turn Your Back on Them” (Season 23, Episodes 1 & 2). They also investigate the disgusting deeds of disgraced former Congressman Matt Gaetz and interview the incredibly charming Ben Rappaport (The Good Wife, Grosse Pointe Garden Society). SOURCES: The 19th News NPR ABC News Axios BBC Legistorm PBS WHYY WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Let Her Go Home Next week’s episode will be “Delinquent” (Season 12, Episode ...

Jun 03, 20252 hr 19 minEp. 235

Consent w/ Tammy Blanchard

On this week’s episode, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU “Consent” (Season 2, Episode 10), dissect the horrible Sara Klein rape case at Brown University, and interview the fabulous Tammy Blanchard (The Invitation, Life with Judy Garland). SOURCES: Los Angeles Times Time Feminist Majority Foundation United States Department of Justice Wikipedia - Death of Samantha Reid The New York Times The Brown Daily Herald The Daily Pennsylvanian Iowa Cold Cases WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Hunting Ground - Doc...

May 27, 20252 hr 21 minEp. 234

Pandora w/ William McNamara

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Pandora” (Season 4, Episode 15), the abduction of Alicia Kozakiewicz by an online predator, and interview the fascinating William McNamara (Stealing Home, Copycat). SOURCES: CBS News Mass.gov Boston Herald Boston.com Los Angeles Times CNN Nevada Appeal People BBC The Lancet The Guardian New York Post BBC Wikipedia - Operation Cathedral The New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Innocent Lives Foundation Next week’s episode will be “Consent” (Season 2, ...

May 20, 20252 hr 37 minEp. 233

Risk w/ Erica Tazel

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Risk” (Season 4, Episode 12), discuss the wild crimes of corrupt NYPD officer Michael Dowd, and interview the delightful Erica Tazel (Justified, Lovecraft Country). SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 New York Post Wikipedia - Michael Dowd (police officer) New York Magazine WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Seven Five - Documentary Next week’s episode will be “Pandora" (Season 4, Episode 15). Support this podcas...

May 13, 20252 hr 11 minEp. 232

Closet w/ Bailey Chase

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Closet” (Season 9, Episode 16), discuss the tragic life of professional soccer player Justin Fashanu, and interview the talented Bailey Chase (Saving Grace, Longmire). SOURCES: Britannica BBC 1 BBC 2 The Guardian Daily Mail The Pink News These Football Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: LGBT National Coming Out Support Hotline Next week’s episode will be “Risk” (Season 4, Episode 12). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promo...

May 06, 20251 hr 59 minEp. 231

Terrorized w/ Tarek Bishara

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Terrorized” (Season 18, Episode 1), dissect the unspeakably horrific Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, and interview the wonderful Tarek Bishara (The Tale, FBI: International). SOURCES: The New York Times Wikipedia - Omar Mateen ABC News CNN Wikipedia - Apple–FBI encryption dispute Los Angeles Times U.S. Attorney's Office, Central District of California WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: 49 Pulses - Documentary Next week’s episode will be “Closet" (Season ...

Apr 29, 20252 hr 4 minEp. 230

Underbelly w/ Charlotte Ray Rosenberg

Today, Kara and Liza discuss “Underbelly” (Season 8, Episode 7), the crimes of 'Pimp Of The Year' Matthew Thompkins, and interview the delightful Charlotte Ray Rosenberg (Little Manhattan, Sneaky Pete). SOURCES: New York Post News Channel 10 Department of Justice NJ.com KUSA SHERLOC NBC News Washington Post United States District Court For The District Of Columbia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: PACT Next week’s episode will be “Terrorized” (Season 18, Episode 1). Support this podcast by shopping our ...

Apr 22, 20251 hr 50 minEp. 229

Brief Interlude w/ Kerry Butler

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Brief Interlude” (Season 14, Episode 23), discuss the tragic Sarai Sierra case, and interview the legendary Kerry Butler (Hairspray, Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life). SOURCES: ABC News The New York Times New York Post BBC amNewYork WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: 15 tips for traveling alone as a woman Next week’s episode will be “Underbelly" (Season 8, Episode 7). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb...

Apr 15, 20251 hr 44 minEp. 228

Exile w/ Aimée Spring Fortier

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Exile” (Season 20, Episode 6), discuss the bizarre disappearances of Hannah Upp, and interview the wonderful Aimée Spring Fortier (FBI). SOURCES: The New Yorker The Virgin Islands Daily News The New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The National Alliance to End Homelessness Next week’s episode will be “Brief Interlude” (Season 14, Episode 23). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3...

Apr 08, 20252 hr 7 minEp. 227

Truth Embargo w/ Keeley Miller

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the worst-rated episode of SVU on IMDB, “Truth Embargo” (Season 25, Episode 2). They also dissect the trend of flash robberies at retail stores in major American cities and interview the delightful Keeley Miller (Elsbeth, FBI: Most Wanted). SOURCES: Deadline Los Angeles Daily News Daily Breeze Yahoo ABC 7 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Fight, Flight, Freeze, or Fawn: How We Respond to Threats Next week’s episode will be “Exile" (Season 20, Episode 6). Support this pod...

Apr 01, 20251 hr 48 minEp. 226

Spellbound w/ Kristen Hager

Today, Kara and Liza discuss “Spellbound” (Season 18, Episode 18), the disturbing crimes of lawyer/ hypnotist Michael Fine, and interview the wonderful Kristen Hager (Suits LA, Being Human). SOURCES: The New Yorker The Virgin Islands Daily News The New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Can Neurolinguistic Programming Really Transform Your Life? Next week’s episode will be “Truth Embargo” (Season 25, Episode 2). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this l...

Mar 25, 20252 hr 6 minEp. 225

Hooked

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Hooked” (Season 6, Episode 15) and discuss the mysterious murder of actor Bob Crane. SOURCES: Time Snopes Wikipedia - Gel bracelet Los Angeles Times Wikipedia - United States v. X-Citement Video, Inc. The New York Times Entertainment Weekly Wikipedia - Bob Crane Pittsburgh Post-Gazette WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Center for Reproductive Rights Next week’s episode will be “Spellbound" (Season 18, Episode 18). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sp...

Mar 18, 20251 hr 36 minEp. 224

Gambler's Fallacy w/ Donal Logue

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Gambler's Fallacy” (Season 15, Episode 17), discuss the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum art heist, and interview the beloved Donal Logue (Gotham, Sons of Anarchy) SOURCES: GardnerMuseum.org CBS News Wikipedia - Isabella Stewart Gardner The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 CNN United Press International 1 Casetext A&E WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The National Council on Problem Gambling Next week’s episode will be “Hooked” (Season 6, Episode 1...

Mar 11, 20252 hr 14 minEp. 223

Redemption w/ David Keith

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Redemption” (Season 3, Episode 6), the wrongful convictions surrounding the crimes of Eddie Mosley, and interview the incredible David Keith (An Officer and a Gentleman, Behind Enemy Lines). SOURCES: CBS News 1 CBS News 2 BBC Wikipedia - Albert DeSalvo The New York Times The Innocence Project 1 The Innocence Project 2 Wikipedia - Eddie Mosley Sun Sentinel WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Equal Justice Initiative Next week’s episode will be “Gambler's Fallac...

Mar 04, 20251 hr 54 minEp. 222

A Single Life

Today, Kara and Liza dissect a very early episode of SVU, “A Single Life” (Season 1, Episode 2), and discuss the long awaited conviction of rapist Lloyd Woodbury. SOURCES: The Los Angeles Times The New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: National Children's Alliance Next week’s episode will be “Redemption” (Season 3, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Feb 25, 20251 hr 26 minEp. 221

Monster's Legacy

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Monster's Legacy” (Season 14, Episode 13) and dissect the horrific crimes of defrocked Episcopal priest and child pornographer Claudius Vermilye. SOURCES: The Washington Post 1 The Washington Post 2 Wikipedia - John Geoghan CBS News Wikipedia - Claudius Vermilye The Dallas Morning News Slate WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The NO MORE Global Directory Next week’s episode will be “A Single Life" (Season 1, Episode 2). Support this podcast by shopping our late...

Feb 18, 20251 hr 37 minEp. 220

Solving for the Unknowns

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Solving for the Unknowns” (Season 21, Episode 19) and discuss the Ian Jurgesen case and the alleged roofie-ing of women’s drinks at a Seattle nightclub. SOURCES: KIRO-TV 1 KIRO-TV 2 EDM.com Emerald City EDM Dance Music NW Daily Mail Daily Mirror WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Tips for Safer Online Dating and Dating App Use - RAINN Next week’s episode will be “Monster's Legacy” (Season 14, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor ...

Feb 11, 20251 hr 35 minEp. 219

Manic

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the ever-relevant episode “Manic” (Season 5, Episode 2) and the Franklin v. Parke-Davis lawsuit involving the neuropathy drug gabapentin. SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 Wikipedia - Columbine High School massacre The Denver Post The Washington Post National Library of Medicine Wikipedia - Franklin v. Parke-Davis WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Brady: United Against Gun Violence Next week’s episode will be “Solving for the Unknown...

Feb 04, 20251 hr 19 minEp. 218

Thought Criminal

Today, Kara and Liza dissect the episode “Thought Criminal” (Season 15, Episodes 23) and discuss the bizarre and disturbing real-life behavior of Gilberto Valle aka the “Cannibal Cop.” SOURCES: Reuters The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 Wikipedia - United States v. Valle WABC-TV New York Daily News 1 New York Daily News 2 Oxygen Good Reads The Week WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Trans Lifeline and Thought Crimes: The Case of the Cannibal Cop Next week’s episode will be “Manic” (Season 5, Episo...

Jan 28, 20251 hr 56 minEp. 217

Baggage

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Baggage” (Season 10, Episode 18) and dissect the horrific crimes of Francisco de Assis Pereira (a.k.a. "The Park Maniac"). SOURCES: The Park Maniac: The Untold Story (2024) Wikipedia - Francisco de Assis Pereira Murderpedia - Francisco de Assis Pereira WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Displaced Black Families GoFundMe Directory ARC Firefighter Fund Next week’s episode will be “Thought Criminal" (Season 15, Episode 23). Support this podcast by shopping our lat...

Jan 21, 20251 hr 37 minEp. 216

Lust

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Lust” (Season 4, Episode 4) and discuss the crimes and secret affairs of wife murderer Dirk Greineder. SOURCES: A Murder in Wellesley CBS news History Cape Cod Times 1 Cape Cod Times 2 SouthCoast Today The New York Times Seacoast Online The Swellesley Report The Washington Post Chicago Tribune Orlando Sentinel WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Contact Tracing - CDC Next week’s episode will be “Baggage” (Season 10, Episode 18). Support this podcast by shopp...

Jan 14, 20251 hr 43 minEp. 215

Prodigy

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Prodigy” (Season 3, Episode 13) and the crimes of the serial killer-obsessed serial killer Jason Massey. SOURCES: McCready Law Group Wikipedia - Jason Massey Chron Crime Library WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Next week’s episode will be “Lust" (Season 4, Episode 4). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/liste...

Jan 07, 20251 hr 16 minEp. 214

Nationwide Manhunt w/ Sarah Storm

Today, Kara and Liza analyze the episode “Nationwide Manhunt” (Season 17, Episodes 14), discuss the 2015 Clinton Correctional Facility escape, and interview the fantastic Sarah Storm. SOURCES: NY.gov ABC News 1 ABC News 2 ABC News 3 ABC News 4 A&E The New York Times New York Magazine State of New York Office of the Inspector General WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Escape at Dannemora Next week’s episode will be “Prodigy” (Season 3, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor d...

Dec 31, 20242 hr 9 minEp. 213

Game

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Game” (Season 6, Episode 14) and dissect the Grand Theft Auto-inspired murders by Devin Moore. SOURCES: CBS News Wikipedia - Strickland v. Sony Wikipedia - Devin Moore (murderer) Kotaku Chicago Tribune WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Gaming Addicts Anonymous Next week’s episode will be “Nationwide Manhunt" (Season 17, Episode 14). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/...

Dec 24, 20241 hr 23 minEp. 212

Parents' Nightmare

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Parents' Nightmare” (Season 16, Episode 22) and discuss the horribly weird staged kidnapping in Lincoln County, Missouri. SOURCES: CNN The Guardian The Detroit News Columbia Daily Tribune WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Talking About Stranger Safety Next week’s episode will be “Game” (Season 6, Episode 14). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy...

Dec 17, 20241 hr 26 minEp. 211

Smoked w/ Hayley McFarland

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Smoked” (Season 12, Episode 24), the horrific crimes of the murderer Marvin Gabrion, and interview the fantastic Hayley McFarland. SOURCES: Wikipedia - Murder of Nicole duFresne CBS News The Atlantic Oxygen Wikipedia - Marvin Gabrion Free Republic MLive Media Group 1 MLive Media Group 2 The United States Courts of Appeals Detroit Free Press WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Everytown for Gun Safety Next week’s episode will be “Parents' Nightmare" (Season 16,...

Dec 10, 20241 hr 49 minEp. 210

Decaying Morality w/ Jamie McShane

Today, Kara and Liza dissect the episode “Decaying Morality” (Season 16, Episodes 13), discuss the infamous public murder of Jeffrey Doucet by Gary Plauché, and interview the incredibly talented Jamie McShane. SOURCES: The Washington Post The New York Times The New Zealand Herald ESPN Wikipedia - Robert Hadden CBS News 1 CBS News 2 CBS News 3 KABC-TV Forbes ProPublica WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Innocence Project Next week’s episode will be “Smoked” (Season 12, Episode 24). Support this podcas...

Dec 03, 20242 hr 9 minEp. 209
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