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Mamamia Out Loud

Mamamia Podcastswww.mamamia.com.au

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

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Episodes

A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV

This morning we got a great example of a sensitive, complicated pregnancy announcement in a surprising place. Today Show host Sarah Abo and her offsider, one Karl Stefanovic, shared stories of miscarriage and fertility struggles that you just would not have heard on mainstream morning telly a few years back. So we’re unpacking the politics of public pregnancy news in 2026. Plus, Gwyneth Paltrow is selling her stuff and we want to bid. Meghan Markle is coming to do a fancy retreat in Australia an...

Mar 11, 202651 min

Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note

The Iranian women’s team has been in Australia playing in the AFC Asian Cup and displaying extraordinary bravery in the face of significant pressure from their home country’s regime. Why have they been criticised and what might happen next? Plus, the Kyle and Jackie O “divorce” has entered its ‘it’s complicated’ era, and Jackie is finally setting the record straight on those quitting stories. There are reports her next gig might have something to do with Meghan Markle, with the Duchess heading t...

Mar 09, 202647 min

How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone

Mascara is over. Yes, it’s joined side parts as beauty cringe, according to the ghost lashes trend that Em Vernem has embraced. We’re unpacking: Are bare eyes cool or do they leave some of us looking like 'elderly babies'? Plus, the fear of public speaking has morphed into something else: the fear of speaking in public, full stop. So why is small talk dying, and does it matter? We’re asking: Is a quick chat about the weather actually the secret to a happier life? And, meet the internet’s new fav...

Mar 05, 202652 min

Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O

Australia’s most profitable partnership is over. Kyle and Jackie O, commercial radio’s ratings juggernaut for 25 years now, have officially imploded, apparently over an on-air clash about… astrology. Plus, Jim Carrey is in Paris looking different and people are convinced he’s been replaced by a sophisticated clone. Which is interesting, because when female movie stars ‘look different’, we just call them sad. And, if you’ve ever been called "too much," a Harvard psychologist wants you to know tha...

Mar 04, 202653 min

Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For

America and Israel have launched an attack on Iran, and while the world watches the fallout of "Epic Fury," we’re looking at what comes next. Our Amelia Lester, also an editor at Foreign Policy , is here to explain why the US acted without Congress, why Australia is one of the few Western voices in support, and whether this is the kind of international meddling Donald Trump promised to avoid? Plus, Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jnr’s Love Story has triggered a wave of nostalgia for those who lived th...

Mar 02, 202653 min

The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover

It’s the season to blame Tyra. Netflix’s new America’s Next Top Model doco has us spiraling back to 2003. It shows us the size-zero era through a 2026 lens, when Tyra Banks was breaking barriers while also showcasing some of the show's seriously batshit behaviour —from models posing as murder victims to 'makeovers' that involved pulling teeth. Now we’re in the MAFS era Clare Stephens wants to know: is every generation’s reality TV show of choice just programmed to prompt outrage? Also, today is ...

Feb 27, 202657 min

"I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"

Today, if you’re an Australian with even a drop of British or Irish blood, Amelia has a warning that might cost you hundreds of dollars. And, is it okay for celebrities to ask us for money? After the deaths of millennial TV icons James Van Der Beek and Eric Dane, their families have started GoFundMe campaigns — and not everyone’s happy about it. Holly, Jessie, and Amelia have very different takes on whether it’s okay to solicit for donations when you live on a multi-million dollar ranch. Also, t...

Feb 25, 202649 min

Prince William Has Entered The Chat

Prince William is carrying on, but he’s not calm about it. He and Princess Kate are at the BAFTAs today, but people are only yelling at them about his uncle Prince Andrew's arrest. Holly Wainwright’s question is: Might ‘complicit’ King Charles take the fall for his brother, and hand his sh*t skirt to William? Plus, "burnout feminism" is the name given to a 2020s shift that’s seeing women leaning out, quitting their jobs and embracing the pleasure of giving up. So, Jessie Stephens wants to know: ...

Feb 23, 202644 min

The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section

It’s Friday, and it’s a news-free zone. Breathe out, friends, and let’s kick off with a splash of skincare nepotism — Gwyneth Paltrow’s daughter Apple is sharing how Mum asked all her “Goopy” friends to help fix her teenage acne and honestly, haven’t we all? Also, iconic magazine editor Anna Wintour just sat down with her successor, Vogue Content Director Chloe Malle, and served up a deeply awkward masterclass in 'Boomer vs. Millennial' work ethic clash. So, who wants to pay everyone 30 per cent...

Feb 20, 202659 min

EMERGENCY MEETING: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has been arrested in the UK on his 66th birthday on suspicion of misconduct in public office. The former prince is the first senior British royal in modern history to be detained by police. How did it happen? Why did it happen? And what does King Charles have to say about it? On this extraordinary day for the Monarchy, we cross to Out Loud Royal Correspondent, Holly Wainwright for an Emergency Meeting. What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: Angelina Joli...

Feb 20, 202613 min

MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question

If Barack Obama says there are aliens, then there are aliens. While the former President is busy clarifying that he didn't actually see any ETs in the Oval Office, Jessie Stephens has a theory: Is men’s obsession with outer space just a symptom of not having enough mental load? Plus, the political "pub test" is officially dead, and the "algorithm test" has moved in and made itself comfortable. We’re looking at why the Internet is both the world’s best fact-checker and its most dangerous bias-con...

Feb 18, 202645 min

Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy

Did Australian politics just take a little topple off a glass cliff, or is the ‘rolling’ of Liberal leader Sussan Ley much more complicated than that? We’ve got the TLDR. And, Wuthering Heights is everywhere and so is criticism of just what kind of “greatest love story” it is. A very sexy one, or a downright irresponsible one? Also, looksmaxxing. What is it? Who’s doing it? And why does it have to involve 17 different tablets every morning and a whole lot of money? Oh, and a little round up of s...

Feb 16, 202646 min

"Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"

Outlouders, it’s Friday the 13th and the vibes are… chaotic. From Wuthering Heights to Finger Princesses to The Year of the Fire Horse and our weekly reccos, today's show is A LOT. We’re about to enter the Year of the Fire Horse and apparently it’s all action, freedom and breakthrough energy. Unless you’re a Pig (sorry, Holly Wainwright). Jessie Stephens and Clare Stephens are claiming this as their zodiac Super Bowl, but there’s a tiny historical footnote involving superstition, falling birth r...

Feb 13, 202654 min

An Affair Confession Live On Air

"Three months ago, I made my biggest mistake and cheated on her..." These were the words that a Norwegian biathlete shared in his live press interview, minutes after winning bronze at the Winter Olympics. So why did Sturla Holm Laegreid choose to tell the world he messed up his chance with "the love of his life" and will his grand gesture to get her back work? Also, the world can't look away from the devastating true-crime story of the apparent abduction of US TV star Savannah Guthrie's mother N...

Feb 11, 202647 min

The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read

It’s Super Bowl Day in the US and while we’re not clear on the result, we do know that Kim Kardashian decided it was date night and Bad Bunny is actually one extremely good bunny. So, why did he inspire other musicians to put on a rival halftime show? In other business, the 'Coldplay kiss cam' woman is telling her side of the story of the night that changed her life, and Jessie Stephens, Clare Stephens and Holly Wainwright ask: What do you do with the kind of infamy that no-one wants? And, Recip...

Feb 09, 202652 min

Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo

Mia Freedman is in full-on producer mode at the moment with the launch of her shiny new project U nleashed. Today, however, she’s back in the hosting chair on Mamamia Out Loud as she spills to Jessie Stephens and Em Vernem what this producer gig malarkey is all about. Outlouders, trust us, you’re going to eat this up. And, do you matter? Are you essential or just... existing? Mia, Jessie, and Em unpack the 'mattering' movement and why it’s taking over from 'let them'. Plus, hotel bathrooms. Some...

Feb 06, 202644 min

TASTER: UNLEASHED - ‘I’m Too Busy To Have A Shower - So I Don’t.’

Welcome to a lil' taster of the very first episode of Unleashed , the podcast for Gen X women who just need a laugh right now. In your ears this week: actor Mary Coustas, Hollywood producer Bruna Papandrea, bestselling author Sally Hepworth and comedian Cathrine Mahoney. In this episode: How often do you shower? Bruna has everyone gasping and Sally realises she's doing it wrong. Heated Rivalry : the real reason straight women are frothing for gay men. The most comfy underwear and whose Skims sna...

Feb 04, 202610 min

An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton

Why did the news about Kim Kardashian’s new boyfriend make Em Vernem cry? The F1 fans of Out Loud have a lot of big feelings about Kim and Lewis Hamilton’s romantic weekend in London and Paris, and the reason is... baffling. Plus, a former Neighbours star is now a big deal in populist Right politics, globally. Yes, Holly Valance is busy trying to get Pauline Hanson elected, just as she’s trying to get Nigel Farage elected in the UK and threw a massive fundraiser for Trump in 2024. So, is Valance...

Feb 04, 202643 min

Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'

If a man breaks up with a 30-something woman who wants a child, is he guilty of more than changing his mind? Inspired by a viral column from the weekend, we explain the phenomena of the ‘fertility vampire’. Also, you might have seen the disturbing photos of the man once known as Prince Andrew kneeling over a woman. They are just a few of the thousands and thousands of images released in this weekend’s drop from the Epstein Files. So what are they, what else is in there, and what might happen nex...

Feb 02, 202655 min

It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule

You probably should be burping your house: every morning, every evening and whenever you get the urge throughout the day, tbh. Jessie Stephens explains to Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright why not doing that is… a lil bit gross. And while we’re hygiene-sharing, Em has a question for the group: How many pairs of underwear do you take if you are going away for a weekend? Holly thought she knew the answer to this question, but she’s definitely wrong. Also, how many risks are parents allowed to take...

Jan 29, 202655 min

The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook

What is happening in Minneapolis and why is it being called a “watershed” moment for Trump’s America? Sorry, Amelia Lester, you are not getting a week off from explaining something distressing happening in the USA. And, while we’re at it, what is with the Melania documentary, and why is it opening in cinemas in Australia this week? How are you meant to behave when your relationship ends in a very public mess not of your choosing? Hide away and lick your wounds? Spill every ugly detail in 25 Inst...

Jan 28, 202653 min

The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit

Are you one productivity hack away from finally nailing your life? We’ve got you. In this ‘special little treat’ episode (IT'S A DOUBLE EP, OUTLOUDERS 💃) Amelia Lester, Jessie Stephens, and Claire Murphy dive deep into the doable productivity hacks that might actually transform your working life - from the mental clarity of 'hard pants' to why Taylor Swift treats her energy like a luxury item. Then, keep your listening ears turned on for the next part of this banger of a double EP as Em Vernem ...

Jan 25, 202640 min

Summer Book Club: Melaleuca — Angie Faye Martin

Outlouders, welcome to the third and final instalment of our Summer Book Club where we’re going out strong. 🔥 Em Vernem, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright dissect Melaleuca by Angie Faye Martin — the Australian debut crime novel we did not see coming and now can’t stop thinking about. This episode has it all: small-town secrets, outback noir vibes, corrupt cops, missing women, a brilliant Indigenous protagonist, and a twist that genuinely divided the hosts. We talk sense of place, why crime ...

Jan 24, 202631 min

"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

Heated Rivalry is only the tip of a very sexy ice(hockey)berg. Straight women make up at least 60% of the audience of the booming MM (male to male) queer romance book market. Why? Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Emily Vernem unpack the theories behind the biggest TV hit of the Summer. Also, no, you're not imagining it. Every streaming show you watch is talking to you like you're a little bit... dumb. Matt Damon knows why. And, everyone has a venting friend. Sometimes, everyone is a venting...

Jan 22, 202647 min

Brooklyn Beckham, That ‘Inappropriate’ Dance & The Downfall Of A Family Brand

The word "nuzzle" is being used and Victoria Beckham's humiliation is complete. Yes, we have an update on the devastating private family breakdown playing out in the most public of ways. Including: Why was Brooklyn Beckham's name trademarked to his mum? Why are wedding guests posting, and then deleting their recollections of 'that' dance? And what does the 'Atlantic Gap' have to do with all this? It's all here. Also, there have been four shark attacks in New South Wales in just 48 hours, with de...

Jan 21, 202655 min

An (Allegedly) Rude Celebrity & The Podcaster Facing a Reckoning

JLo has been accused of being rude when she didn't say "Hi" to the Glambot Guy on the red carpet at the Golden Globes last week. We all love stories of snooty celebrities but is this just an extension of telling women to "Smile"? Our (literal) foreign policy expert Amelia Lester is back and we have questions for her about Greenland. Namely, where is it? Why does Trump want it? And what happens if he gets it? Also, one of the most listened to men in the world is being accused of 'red-pilling' his...

Jan 19, 202657 min

We’ve Entered The Year Of Friction-maxxing

Could you have guests over without cleaning all the way up? What about turning off the GPS when you're driving? How about not tracking your kids and partner, no matter what? This year, it's all about friction-maxxing. Learning to live without a few of the conveniences that have become crutches, all in the pursuit of becoming - no big deal - more human. Em is horrified and Jessie is inspired by this essay in The Cut by Kathryn Jezer-Morton . Also, Holly's favourite Dax Shepard says that he will p...

Jan 15, 202645 min

A Spectacular Writers' Festival Collapse & The Jennifer Lawrence Dog Drama

Since when did cosy chats about books suck up quite so many headlines? Adelaide Writers' Week is the longest-running literary event in Australia and this week it collapsed under the weight of its own controversy. So, Em asks Holly and Jessie, what are writers' festivals for, anyway? Jennifer Lawrence re-homed her dogs after she had a baby and Jessie wants to know why nobody warned her that talking about that will ruin her life. And Jessie would know. When does a situationship become a boy/girlfr...

Jan 14, 202650 min

WE'RE BACK: Our Notes On The Golden Globes & Hollywood's 'Toxic Mums' Group

It's Golden Globes day and Mia Freedman is joining Holly, Jessie and Em to talk about frocks that landed and jokes that didn't. We're not mad, we'll just wait for our podcast category invite next year. When a former Disney star decides to put her mothers' group on blast, famous faces included, what could make it worse? Only a defensive Dad entering the chat. Yes, we're unpacking Ashley Tisdale's viral "toxic mums" essay. Also, the Beckhams' family estrangement gets brutal - thanks to a recipe fo...

Jan 12, 20261 hr 2 min

NEW: Our Words Of The Year For 2026

It's January 1 and Outlouders know what that means. For almost a decade, on the first day of every year Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright have shared the single word that they hope will define the year ahead. Last year, they picked: Creativity, Nup, and, um, Let Them. But did they live by them? And what about Amelia Lester and Emily Vernem and the wider Outlouder family? It's time to find out, and to pick our words for 2026. Let's just say, some lessons have been learned. Outlou...

Dec 31, 202535 min
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