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Mamamia Out Loud

Mamamia Podcastswww.mamamia.com.au

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

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Episodes

Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy

Did Australian politics just take a little topple off a glass cliff, or is the ‘rolling’ of Liberal leader Sussan Ley much more complicated than that? We’ve got the TLDR. And, Wuthering Heights is everywhere and so is criticism of just what kind of “greatest love story” it is. A very sexy one, or a downright irresponsible one? Also, looksmaxxing. What is it? Who’s doing it? And why does it have to involve 17 different tablets every morning and a whole lot of money? Oh, and a little round up of s...

Feb 16, 202646 min

"Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"

Outlouders, it’s Friday the 13th and the vibes are… chaotic. From Wuthering Heights to Finger Princesses to The Year of the Fire Horse and our weekly reccos, today's show is A LOT. We’re about to enter the Year of the Fire Horse and apparently it’s all action, freedom and breakthrough energy. Unless you’re a Pig (sorry, Holly Wainwright). Jessie Stephens and Clare Stephens are claiming this as their zodiac Super Bowl, but there’s a tiny historical footnote involving superstition, falling birth r...

Feb 13, 202654 min

An Affair Confession Live On Air

"Three months ago, I made my biggest mistake and cheated on her..." These were the words that a Norwegian biathlete shared in his live press interview, minutes after winning bronze at the Winter Olympics. So why did Sturla Holm Laegreid choose to tell the world he messed up his chance with "the love of his life" and will his grand gesture to get her back work? Also, the world can't look away from the devastating true-crime story of the apparent abduction of US TV star Savannah Guthrie's mother N...

Feb 11, 202647 min

The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read

It’s Super Bowl Day in the US and while we’re not clear on the result, we do know that Kim Kardashian decided it was date night and Bad Bunny is actually one extremely good bunny. So, why did he inspire other musicians to put on a rival halftime show? In other business, the 'Coldplay kiss cam' woman is telling her side of the story of the night that changed her life, and Jessie Stephens, Clare Stephens and Holly Wainwright ask: What do you do with the kind of infamy that no-one wants? And, Recip...

Feb 09, 202652 min

Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo

Mia Freedman is in full-on producer mode at the moment with the launch of her shiny new project U nleashed. Today, however, she’s back in the hosting chair on Mamamia Out Loud as she spills to Jessie Stephens and Em Vernem what this producer gig malarkey is all about. Outlouders, trust us, you’re going to eat this up. And, do you matter? Are you essential or just... existing? Mia, Jessie, and Em unpack the 'mattering' movement and why it’s taking over from 'let them'. Plus, hotel bathrooms. Some...

Feb 06, 202644 min

TASTER: UNLEASHED - ‘I’m Too Busy To Have A Shower - So I Don’t.’

Welcome to a lil' taster of the very first episode of Unleashed , the podcast for Gen X women who just need a laugh right now. In your ears this week: actor Mary Coustas, Hollywood producer Bruna Papandrea, bestselling author Sally Hepworth and comedian Cathrine Mahoney. In this episode: How often do you shower? Bruna has everyone gasping and Sally realises she's doing it wrong. Heated Rivalry : the real reason straight women are frothing for gay men. The most comfy underwear and whose Skims sna...

Feb 04, 202610 min

An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton

Why did the news about Kim Kardashian’s new boyfriend make Em Vernem cry? The F1 fans of Out Loud have a lot of big feelings about Kim and Lewis Hamilton’s romantic weekend in London and Paris, and the reason is... baffling. Plus, a former Neighbours star is now a big deal in populist Right politics, globally. Yes, Holly Valance is busy trying to get Pauline Hanson elected, just as she’s trying to get Nigel Farage elected in the UK and threw a massive fundraiser for Trump in 2024. So, is Valance...

Feb 04, 202643 min

Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'

If a man breaks up with a 30-something woman who wants a child, is he guilty of more than changing his mind? Inspired by a viral column from the weekend, we explain the phenomena of the ‘fertility vampire’. Also, you might have seen the disturbing photos of the man once known as Prince Andrew kneeling over a woman. They are just a few of the thousands and thousands of images released in this weekend’s drop from the Epstein Files. So what are they, what else is in there, and what might happen nex...

Feb 02, 202655 min

It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule

You probably should be burping your house: every morning, every evening and whenever you get the urge throughout the day, tbh. Jessie Stephens explains to Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright why not doing that is… a lil bit gross. And while we’re hygiene-sharing, Em has a question for the group: How many pairs of underwear do you take if you are going away for a weekend? Holly thought she knew the answer to this question, but she’s definitely wrong. Also, how many risks are parents allowed to take...

Jan 29, 202655 min

The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook

What is happening in Minneapolis and why is it being called a “watershed” moment for Trump’s America? Sorry, Amelia Lester, you are not getting a week off from explaining something distressing happening in the USA. And, while we’re at it, what is with the Melania documentary, and why is it opening in cinemas in Australia this week? How are you meant to behave when your relationship ends in a very public mess not of your choosing? Hide away and lick your wounds? Spill every ugly detail in 25 Inst...

Jan 28, 202653 min

The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit

Are you one productivity hack away from finally nailing your life? We’ve got you. In this ‘special little treat’ episode (IT'S A DOUBLE EP, OUTLOUDERS 💃) Amelia Lester, Jessie Stephens, and Claire Murphy dive deep into the doable productivity hacks that might actually transform your working life - from the mental clarity of 'hard pants' to why Taylor Swift treats her energy like a luxury item. Then, keep your listening ears turned on for the next part of this banger of a double EP as Em Vernem ...

Jan 25, 202640 min

Summer Book Club: Melaleuca — Angie Faye Martin

Outlouders, welcome to the third and final instalment of our Summer Book Club where we’re going out strong. 🔥 Em Vernem, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright dissect Melaleuca by Angie Faye Martin — the Australian debut crime novel we did not see coming and now can’t stop thinking about. This episode has it all: small-town secrets, outback noir vibes, corrupt cops, missing women, a brilliant Indigenous protagonist, and a twist that genuinely divided the hosts. We talk sense of place, why crime ...

Jan 24, 202631 min

"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

Heated Rivalry is only the tip of a very sexy ice(hockey)berg. Straight women make up at least 60% of the audience of the booming MM (male to male) queer romance book market. Why? Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Emily Vernem unpack the theories behind the biggest TV hit of the Summer. Also, no, you're not imagining it. Every streaming show you watch is talking to you like you're a little bit... dumb. Matt Damon knows why. And, everyone has a venting friend. Sometimes, everyone is a venting...

Jan 22, 202647 min

Brooklyn Beckham, That ‘Inappropriate’ Dance & The Downfall Of A Family Brand

The word "nuzzle" is being used and Victoria Beckham's humiliation is complete. Yes, we have an update on the devastating private family breakdown playing out in the most public of ways. Including: Why was Brooklyn Beckham's name trademarked to his mum? Why are wedding guests posting, and then deleting their recollections of 'that' dance? And what does the 'Atlantic Gap' have to do with all this? It's all here. Also, there have been four shark attacks in New South Wales in just 48 hours, with de...

Jan 21, 202655 min

An (Allegedly) Rude Celebrity & The Podcaster Facing a Reckoning

JLo has been accused of being rude when she didn't say "Hi" to the Glambot Guy on the red carpet at the Golden Globes last week. We all love stories of snooty celebrities but is this just an extension of telling women to "Smile"? Our (literal) foreign policy expert Amelia Lester is back and we have questions for her about Greenland. Namely, where is it? Why does Trump want it? And what happens if he gets it? Also, one of the most listened to men in the world is being accused of 'red-pilling' his...

Jan 19, 202657 min

We’ve Entered The Year Of Friction-maxxing

Could you have guests over without cleaning all the way up? What about turning off the GPS when you're driving? How about not tracking your kids and partner, no matter what? This year, it's all about friction-maxxing. Learning to live without a few of the conveniences that have become crutches, all in the pursuit of becoming - no big deal - more human. Em is horrified and Jessie is inspired by this essay in The Cut by Kathryn Jezer-Morton . Also, Holly's favourite Dax Shepard says that he will p...

Jan 15, 202645 min

A Spectacular Writers' Festival Collapse & The Jennifer Lawrence Dog Drama

Since when did cosy chats about books suck up quite so many headlines? Adelaide Writers' Week is the longest-running literary event in Australia and this week it collapsed under the weight of its own controversy. So, Em asks Holly and Jessie, what are writers' festivals for, anyway? Jennifer Lawrence re-homed her dogs after she had a baby and Jessie wants to know why nobody warned her that talking about that will ruin her life. And Jessie would know. When does a situationship become a boy/girlfr...

Jan 14, 202650 min

WE'RE BACK: Our Notes On The Golden Globes & Hollywood's 'Toxic Mums' Group

It's Golden Globes day and Mia Freedman is joining Holly, Jessie and Em to talk about frocks that landed and jokes that didn't. We're not mad, we'll just wait for our podcast category invite next year. When a former Disney star decides to put her mothers' group on blast, famous faces included, what could make it worse? Only a defensive Dad entering the chat. Yes, we're unpacking Ashley Tisdale's viral "toxic mums" essay. Also, the Beckhams' family estrangement gets brutal - thanks to a recipe fo...

Jan 12, 20261 hr 2 min

NEW: Our Words Of The Year For 2026

It's January 1 and Outlouders know what that means. For almost a decade, on the first day of every year Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright have shared the single word that they hope will define the year ahead. Last year, they picked: Creativity, Nup, and, um, Let Them. But did they live by them? And what about Amelia Lester and Emily Vernem and the wider Outlouder family? It's time to find out, and to pick our words for 2026. Let's just say, some lessons have been learned. Outlou...

Dec 31, 202535 min

We're Not Done Yet. Our Best Reccos 2025 — Part 2

Celebrity Traitors UK. Adolescence. The Studio . Lily Allen. A matte primer and a Japanese eye mask. What's worth your time, your attention and your money this year according to Mamamia Out Loud ? These are just some of the recommendations Amelia Lester, Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright are pulling out from the very long list of recommendations they made in 2025 for the second half of their comprehensive list of how to spend your holiday. Feel free to add to it. Support indepen...

Dec 28, 202534 min

Summer Book Club: Great Big Beautiful Life - Emily Henry

It’s the second episode of our Summer Book Club and this time, we’re diving headfirst into Great Big Beautiful Life by Emily Henry. So then, it was the book that promised joy, mess, meaning and maybe a mild existential spiral — did it deliver? 👀 In this episode, Em V, Jessie and Holly unpack: Why this story hits differently when you read it in summer The characters we wanted to hug… and the ones we wanted to gently shake Big love, big choices and the pressure to live a 'beautiful' life Whether ...

Dec 27, 202540 min

Our Reccos That Made 2025 — Part 1

What's worth your time, your attention and your money this year according to Mamamia Out Loud? So glad you asked. Well... Sinners . Blusher. Chalamet. Bed Hair. Eyeliner, and a 40-year-old book. These are just some of the recommendations Amelia Lester, Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright are pulling out from the very long list of reccos they made in 2025 for the first half of their comprehensive list. Feel free to give feedback. It's a gift, you know. Support independent women's m...

Dec 21, 202538 min

Katy’s Baby & A ‘Divisive’ Wedding Dress: 2026 Predictions

Which of your festive traditions are just plain 'tacky'? Emily Vernem has a list, and you're probably on it. Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens certainly are. This is the last 'normal programming' show for 2025, and we're leaning into comfort and joy. We're bringing all our predictions for 2026 including the fate of some celebrity relationships, the details of the most famous woman in the world's wedding dress, and whether or not it will be the Year Of The Unusual Face. We also revisit what we...

Dec 18, 202554 min

The Bondi Stories We’ll Never Forget & How To Be A Good Guest

There are names we will never forget from the Bondi attacks. On today's show, Jessie, Holly and Amelia want to honour just a few of the many heroes who risked — and in some cases lost — their lives trying to save others in the worst terror attack ever to happen on Australia's soil. And we want to tell you a little bit about what it feels like in Sydney, and at Bondi at the moment. Not everyone is able to turn their attention elsewhere this week, but for those who can and want to, we're having so...

Dec 17, 202544 min

A Sunday Evening At Bondi Beach

It's not a usual show today, because it's not a usual day. At sunset on Sunday, at Australia's most famous beach, Australia experienced the worst act of terrorism ever to take place on our soil. As the local Jewish community celebrated the beginning of Chanukah, families gathered around food, face-painting and even a petting zoo for an 'everyone is welcome' opening to the Festival Of Lights. And two men opened fire. Some Outlouders will be directly affected by what happened on Sunday. Others wil...

Dec 15, 202542 min

The Rudest Question You've Definitely Asked This Week

It's the time of the year when you have to rub up against other people in all kinds of ways. And so obviously Jessie, Holly and Em needed to bring an updated etiquette guide. So, what's a great question, what's a rude one and do you always, always need to give a gift receipt? And, are you struggling to make a big decision about the new year? Of course you are. We have a new framework to help: Is this a Hat, Haircut or Tattoo problem? Plus, a dilemma for the ages: Is a straight man cheating if he...

Dec 11, 202547 min

Seasonal Scams, Bonnie Blue & Pop Star Tantrums

Performers are totally over it, and their end-of-year burnout is highly relatable content. But also, are we, the crowds, worse than we've ever been? This week a 90s rock legend ripped into a concert-goer at a Melbourne show and we want to know — do any of us know how to behave any more? And, in what seems like very unsurprising news, adult content creator Bonnie Blue has been arrested in Bali. But why did she take her 'bang bus' there in the first place? Plus, scams. Amelia has a scam story that...

Dec 10, 202544 min

The Most Surprising Relationship Red Flag

Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift never fight. Nor do George and Amal Clooney. Not about work, money, cleaning, travel or whose turn it is to feed the dog (sorry, cats.) An aspirational relationship goal? Or a flashing red flag? Also, this week the whole world is looking at Australia as our world-first social media delay kicks in on Wednesday, December 10. So, what are we to make of the poll that says only a third of Aussie parents are actually going to enforce the ban that experts are calling "a mo...

Dec 08, 202551 min

The Viral 'Friendship Shed' Theory

Should you 'shed' friends every seven years? We hear out the expert who says yes. She also knows why you feel like you have no mates, and has some advice for how to attract some new ones. And no, Jessie, Em and Holly don't all like it. Also, the new micro-compatibility test for prospective partners. Lead question: How long before a flight do you like to get to the airport? Plus, all our recommendations. One of which is for the stellar Out Loud gift guide, coming into your inbox from the Holly Ou...

Dec 04, 202536 min

The Thing You Can’t Say About Having Kids

Can you change a child's birthday because it's a bit... inconvenient for you? Content creator Indy Clinton wants us to believe she's doing just that with her "Christmas baby" and Sagittarians everywhere have thoughts. Plus, Sienna Miller is pregnant and in a negligee on the British Fashion Awards this week. At 43, Holly wants to know, is this the quintessential representation of the new era of agelessness? Also, Pilates is dead, strength training is on its way out and a mobility obsession is on ...

Dec 03, 202551 min
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