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Demand Efficiency

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The show where we unpack the methods and tactics used to reduce CAC by the most efficient and fastest growing companies in tech. In each episode your host, Eli Rubel, founder of Matter Made, will evaluate how the best companies in the industry are driving down their cost to acquire while still achieving remarkable growth.

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Episodes

Greg Strickland on how to be a good human, while hyper scaling in SaaS

Episode Outline [01:04] How Greg got to where he is today [03:20] The CEO whisperer [05:51] Pivotal career moments [08:26] Recurring themes [11:25] Why some companies fail to implement [13:50] Greg’s frequent rants [17:09] Greg’s advice [20:10] How does Greg unwind? [21:44] Mentors and inspiring people Greg’s Inspirations Greg’s dad and wife Everyone he’s ever worked with Michael Butler Connect with Greg LinkedIn...

Apr 09, 202126 minSeason 3Ep. 4

Johanna Fagerstedt, CMO of Quinyx, shares thoughts on organizing a globally-distributed team for success amidst an uncertain climate

Episode Outline [00:23] Johanna’s background [03:10] The perfect plan that had to change [04:36] Building conviction quickly while testing [05:44] Organizing a globally-distributed team for success [06:46] Approaching the bigger picture [13:45] Solidifying a plan and budget for 2021 with all the unknowns [16:35] How has Johanna adapted her leadership style to empower teams through these times? [18:11] Mentors and inspiring people [19:31] How does Johanna unwind? Johanna’s Inspirations Erik Fjell...

Apr 06, 202120 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Jennifer Dimas, CMO at Qumu Corporation and Co-founder of Women in Revenue on blending analytical and creative aspects of marketing

Episode Outline [00:33] Women in Revenue [03:43] Blending the Analytical and Creative sides of marketing [07:16] Emphasising skillsets in the marketing mix [08:46] How has the marketing mix changed recently? [10:27] Running into challenges convincing executives [12:14] Changing cadences [15:12] Planning and budgeting with variable data [19:11] What does Jennifer do to keep a balance? [21:53] Jennifer’s mentors Jennifer’s Inspirations Heidi Melin Women in Revenue founding board members Mentorship...

Mar 31, 202124 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Chili Piper, Nicolas Vandenberghe on their GTM Strategy and building a durable remote culture

Episode Outline [00:23] Nicolas’s background [06:26] Approaching go-to-market with Chili Piper and KosmoTime [10:42] Missteps and mistakes along the way [15:12] Being remote before remote was cool, and decision memos [22:46] The next big thing for Nicolas [25:46] Mentors and inspiring people Nicolas’s Inspirations Steve Jurvetson Steve Jobs John Sculley Nir Eyal Jeff Bezos Warren Buffett Connect with Nicolas LinkedIn Website...

Mar 23, 202127 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Chargebee CRO Adam Tesan and the Rise of RevOps

Episode Outline [00:24] Catalyst for formalizing RevOps [02:41] Figuring out the need to prioritise RevOps [04:16] What does RevOps seem to you? (Clear your misunderstanding about RevOps) [05:28] A methodology to success! [10:10] When things don't go according to the plan…… [12:54] The tension between sales and marketing [13:52] Overanalysing v/s execution [15:46] How to keep your head clear? [17:15] The colleagues of success Connect with Adam LinkedIn Check out Chargebee Website Twitter...

Dec 16, 202021 minSeason 2Ep. 34

OneLogin CMO and Co-Founder of Women in Revenue, Dayna Rothman, on building teams and a Will Smith & DJ Jazzy Jeff reunion

Episode Timeline: 1:07 What’s top of mind for Dayna today? 2:59 Has Dayna had to adapt her leadership style through this? 3:58 Significant changes that Dayna had to make 4:37 How Dayna manages Zoom fatigue right now 8:13 How Dayna’s leadership style has changed 14:33 Dayna’s favorite campaigns 18:43 Things that don’t go as Dayna envisioned but she learned something to be able to be better next time 24:18 What does Dayna do to keep her mind calm and be able to be clear and be effective 25:34 Ment...

Dec 10, 202027 minSeason 2Ep. 33

Skilljar CEO and Co-Founder, Sandi Lin, on her evolution as a leader and lessons learned

Episode outline: 00:34 What does Skilljar do? 01:56 How skills have evolved over time and how Sandi has evolved as an engineer leading a company as CEO 07:45 The moment Sandi decided to pull back and bring in leadership, sales and marketing 10:55 Can Sandi pack them to revenue or is it some other qualitative factor? 16:58 What would Sandi avoid, when starting her next company? 21:37 What gets Sandi really jazzed about this next revenue sprint fresh capital in the bank 23:15 People that helped Sa...

Dec 02, 202027 minSeason 2Ep. 32

Co-founder and Partner of PeakSpan Capital, Matt Melymuka on patterns of success growth and failures

Episode Outline: 2:11 PeakSpan’s product market fit definition 3:50 Patterns of success growth and failures, on Matt’s perspective 7:50 Preferred industries based on how things play out 13:50 Talks about the whitespaces in tech or sales that is yet to see a company enter 16:33 Influences that helped shape Matt’s path and continue to inspire 18:52 Matt’s extracurricular activities Matt’s Inspirations: His wife...

Nov 24, 202022 minSeason 2Ep. 31

Carolina Kung of Frontline Ventures on accelerating the learning curve of early-stage founders and CEOs

Episode outline [01:12] Introducing Carolina [03:10] The most common mistakes Carolina sees companies making across the portfolio and advice she gives her clients [06:16] The process for European companies that wish to expand into the United States [07:40] How Carolina prioritizes hiring and hiring patterns in the United States versus Europe [10:00] Lessons from companies Carolina has seen succeed [12:00] How European companies can expand into the US for the first time [13:35] Playbooks that Car...

Nov 16, 202022 minSeason 2Ep. 30

6Sense CMO Latane Conant on earning the right to go big

Episode outline [01:15] Latane’s background [02:44] How Latane decides when to share her ideas [05:37] “When you say yes to something, you say no to something else”: How Latane decides what to work on [08:53] “You have to earn the right to go big” [11:38] The importance of diversity and market representation on boards [16:28] What Latane is currently working on [20:15] Latane’s inspirational people [24:10] How to participate in CMO Coffee Talk [25:37] How Latane unwinds Latane’s Inspirations Kat...

Nov 09, 202028 minSeason 2Ep. 28

Kirti Dewan, VP of Marketing at BugSnag on the most successful campaigns this year and pivoting to online events

Episode outline [01:18] Kirti’s background [01:45] How Kirti developed work-life balance [06:13] What Kirti learned from her consulting career and how she uses these lessons today [10:35] Good habits that will positively impact your work [12:32] How others respond to Kirti’s views on work-life balance [13:13] 3 of Bugnsag’s best campaigns during the last 12 months and 3 that Kirti is excited about in the future [17:22] How Bugsnag pivoted to online events and how successful they have been [20:10...

Nov 05, 202022 minSeason 2Ep. 27

Sendoso CMO Daniel Frohnen on his team’s response to this year’s challenges and his advice for early stage companies.

Episode outline [01:30] Daniel’s background [03:39] How Daniel started out at Sendoso and what attracted him to the company [04:50] How Sendoso adapted their business strategy in response to the COVID-19 pandemic [06:48] The three most effective ways Sendoso engaged their customers during the pandemic [08:22] How Daniel approaches the challenge of keeping organized and keeping his teams aligned [10:05] How Sendoso prioritizes ICP accounts [11:40] How Daniel approaches partnership with the sales ...

Nov 03, 202024 minSeason 2Ep. 26

What’s it like reporting to a board with Marc Andreessen and John Chambers in a board room? In this episode with Matt Singer, CMO at OpenGov, we talk about marketing GovTech, and the evolving revenue landscape post-covid.

Episode outline [01:09] Matt Singer’s background [02:12] What it was like for Matt to transition to marketing to government and what makes it exciting [04:44] How Matt responds to change and the importance of building and tracking brand awareness [09:03] What it’s like to get to work with such prominent board members and some questions that have come up in meetings with the board [11:10] The biggest new opportunities Matt sees for himself and his business over the next year [14:04] The unique co...

Oct 28, 202025 minSeason 2Ep. 25

Kevin Dorsey on Scaling Sales with Missionaries not Mercenaries

Kevin Dorsey, better known as KD is the VP of Inside Sales at Patient Pop inc. Kevin has built numerous teams from 0-150+ reps and revenues from 0-$750M (and counting). He’s a mentor and consultant for early, mid, and late-stage SaaS companies across the globe

Oct 27, 202030 minSeason 2Ep. 24

Impartner Software CMO Kerry Desberg talks us through her professional journey and identifying profitable markets

Episode Outline [02:00] Kerry’s background [04:20] How Kerry has overcome challenges and made her company stand out [08:05] How Kerry pivoted during the COVID-19 pandemic [12:20] Kerry’s approach to changes in buyer behavior and identifying profitable markets [15:10] The importance of having a marketing tech stack and what Kerry has in her marketing tech stack [19:35] Why Kerry thinks the BDR should report to marketing instead of sales [22:30] How Kerry unwinds Connect with Kerry LinkedIn Websit...

Oct 21, 202024 minSeason 2Ep. 23

Brian Kardon, the legendary valley CMO behind InVision, Eloqua, and Lattice shares his strategy for creating alignment between sales and marketing and building a balance between product-lead growth and traditional operations

Episode Outline [00:25] Why you need to be familiar with Product Led Growth [03:00] How Brian organizes funnels at InVision [05:20] The importance of harmonizing messaging in improving the user experience [06:00] How to create a culture of revenue [12:50] Brian’s thoughts on unification of sales and marketing [17:50] How to influence existing customers [19:14] Brian’s inspirations Brian’s Inspirations Brian Halligan Dharmesh Shah Frank Slootman Marc Benioff Connect with Brian LinkedIn Website Tw...

Oct 19, 202026 minSeason 2Ep. 22

Bootstrapping to $20M ARR and beyond with Vivek Bhaskaran

Episode Outline [00:44] How and why Vivek founded QuestionPro with no venture capital [03:59] Vivek’s decision making factors when it comes to his company [07:40] How Vivek succeeded in secondary markets and made the decision to pursue them [10:05] How to identify when an investment is paying off [13:00] How Vivek approached his business endeavors and the decisions that led to where he is now [15:55] What drives and keeps Vivek excited growing his business [18:39] What gives Vivek energy outside...

Oct 14, 202022 minSeason 2Ep. 21

From Microsoft leadership to startuplandia with Romi Mahajan

Episode Outline [00:50] Romi’s shift from Microsoft to the startup space [02:04] The transferable skills Romi gained from Microsoft and what he had to learn and unlearn [04:23] Where Romi is at in his current company [06:20] Why Romi’s company split off from their parent company to become an independent entity [07:35] Romi’s growth thesis and how his thesis evolved as his company grew [09:24] How Romi structured his shift from direct sales into channel selling [11:54] The strategy that Romi’s co...

Oct 12, 202027 minSeason 2Ep. 20

Huckabuy Founder & CEO Geoff Atkinson on how we accomplished exponential growth at Overstock and what he’s up to with Huckabuy

Episode Outline [00:45] Geoff’s background [02:30] How Geoff grew SEO from zero to $300 million at Overstock.com [04:18] The series of pivots that led to the idea for Huckabuy [06:38] How to know when you have product/market fit and are ready to expand [07:55] Mistakes Geoff made in his career that ultimately led to valuable lessons [11:15] When and how Geoff shifted his focus with Huckabuy to achieve product/market fit [13:00] What Geoff is prioritizing to scale his business [15:00] How Geoff r...

Oct 07, 202020 minSeason 2Ep. 19

Cracking Hubspot’s Playbook for Emerging Markets with Paul Rios

Episode Outline [01:22] The importance of manufacturing your own luck [07:25] How leaders can ramp and grow teams [12:25] The state of LATAM for Hubspot today [14:50] How companies can expand into emerging markets and what mistakes to avoid [24:05] Paul’s inspirations Paul’s Inspirations Brian Halligan Mark Roberge Peter Caputa Jeetu Mahtani Connect with Paul LinkedIn Twitter Hubspot...

Oct 05, 202031 minSeason 2Ep. 18

Thiago Sa Freire, CRO at Chorus.ai, shares lessons learned throughout his career and thoughts on customer centricity

Episode Outline [12:30] Lessons Thiago learned from door-to-door sales [15:10] How Thiago developed his growth mindset [18:30] The most influential people in Thiago’s career and what he learned from them [23:50] What Thiago is most excited about at Chorus [26:15] Thiago’s biggest challenge this year and where his focus is now [30:35] Thiago’s prediction for the future of sales [32:20] What Thiago does to blow off steam Thiago’s Inspirations Scott Olrich Dave Simon Paul Hamilton Steve Hallowell D...

Sep 30, 202024 minSeason 2Ep. 17

From 0-$12M ARR in 18 months with Jake Dunlap

Episode Outline [00:36] Jake’s background [02:50] How Jake scaled Glassdoor from 0 to almost 1M in MRR in under 16 months [04:00] Some of Jake’s early pitfalls and how he learned from them [08:28] Jake’s process for evaluating whether someone is a good fit for his team [11:02] Why Jake started his own firm [16:17] Don’t underinvest in process or infrastructure as you grow in scale [18:15] How Jake unwinds [18:44] How Jake works smart and efficiently Jake’s Inspirations Clark Beacom Connect with ...

Sep 23, 202025 minSeason 2Ep. 16

Brett Plotzker, Co-founder and Chairman at Anagram, talks about the steps he took to grow Anagram to 3 million ARR quickly and raise 17M in funding

Episode Outline [00:59] Failures that helped shape Brett’s success at Anagram [03:13] What led to Brett founding Anagram [06:00] When Brett realized he had product market fit and could begin to scale the business [07:42] Subsequent steps after realizing they had a product that could sell [10:10] What Brett would have done differently [11:55] The importance of building out a referral network and advisory board [13:50] Brett’s advice for startups [15:50] Where Brett is at in his process of figurin...

Sep 21, 202022 minSeason 2Ep. 15

Ahin Thomas, VP of Marketing at Backblaze, shares the unconventional ways he drives growth and why professional wrestling is America's purest form of storytelling

Episode Outline [01:10] How Backblaze accomplishes 90% inbound [06:00] The unconventional ways Ahin drove growth at Backblaze [09:23] The challenges of content marketing [12:27] Campaigns that did not pan out and what Ahin learned from them [16:23] The importance of having a unique view of value to share [19:20] How learning the mechanics of collaborative databases benefited Ahin’s career [20:35] Why Ahin thinks professional wrestling is America’s most important art form and purest form of story...

Sep 16, 202024 minSeason 2Ep. 14

Rob Brewster shares lessons from the early growth trenches at Salesforce, Twilio, and Eloqua and what can be applied to startups sprinting to $10M ARR

Episode Outline [02:10] Most important lessons Rob has brought to GoFormz from former companies [04:00] How Rob motivates people and the challenges that come with motivating others [07:25] How Rob has been driving growth at GoFormz [11:53] Examples of sales advice Rob has given to help companies grow [17:50] The importance of understanding your customer base [20:08] Rob’s personal professional goals [21:30] How Rob unwinds Rob’s Inspirations Mark Bickerstaffe Bobby Napiltonia Marc Benioff Connec...

Sep 14, 202026 minSeason 2Ep. 13

Evan Kohn on dialing the Inbound & Outbound growth mix at Pypestream

Episode Outline [00:49] Evan’s background [02:16] How Evan went from teaching to DOD consulting to SaaS startup [05:34] How Pypestream stands out and proves what conversational AI can achieve to large enterprises [11:19] The role of Chief Business Officer [12:18] The biggest challenge Pypestream is facing this year [15:15] Lessons Evan has learned on the way to where Pypestream is today [17:51] Pypestream’s most and least successful campaigns [22:30] How Evan unwinds Evan’s Inspirations Adrian S...

Sep 09, 202026 minSeason 2Ep. 12

Walter Roth of Moment Sales on how to apply an engineering mindset to sales, compassion, and truth

Podcast Outline [00:48] Walter’s background [04:16] Common themes and mistakes Walter notices among founding teams when he starts working with them [05:40] What do First Principles mean in the context of sales? [07:30] How to apply an engineering mindset to sales, compassion, and truth [09:58] Becoming a better salesperson: The 3 W’s (Steve Browne) [15:10] Usually the biggest obstacle is oneself [23:36] How Walter unwinds Connect with Walter LinkedIn Website Twitter...

Sep 08, 202025 minSeason 2Ep. 11

LeadCrunch CEO Olin Hyde on their unique pricing model and how it has helped them achieve industry-leading YoY growth.

Episode Outline [00:10] Olin’s background [01:14] How Olin knew when it was time to evolve between business models [05:27] Two important things you need to know to get a good customer profile [07:45] What Olin wishes he understood about starting a venture-backed company before starting LeadCrunch [10:46] Why Olin chose not to run a subscription model [18:19] How Olin unwinds Olin’s Inspirations Tom Peterson Grady Burnett Marv Langston Connect with Olin LinkedIn Twitter Website...

Sep 03, 202023 minSeason 2Ep. 10

What did it take to grow Namely from $200k to 60M+ ARR? Michael Manne breaks down the learnings and advice he now gives to folks on their revenue journey.

Episode outline [00:40] How Michael went from 200K to 6M in ARR at Namely [03:26] The most challenging aspect of Michael’s first 6 months at Namely [04:55] The most important actions to take in developing a pricing strategy [07:54] The moment when Namely’s revenue motion and ICP fell into place [09:30] What Michael learned from the impressive board he worked with at Namely [11:24] Preconceptions Michael had and what he learned after experience [15:14] What got Michael excited about working with ...

Sep 01, 202023 minSeason 2Ep. 9

Sydney Sloan, SalesLoft CMO, on marketing trends and customer centricity

Podcast Outline [00:40] Sydney’s background [01:00] Trends in marketing right now [04:37] Gated versus ungated content in marketing [05:59] How Sydney’s team makes the decision whether to gate and request demos [10:10] How to know when to run an account-based strategy [12:13] Essentials for Series A and Series B companies [16:32] The role of CMO in increasing retention and how to ensure customer success [21:18] Sydney’s plans for personal development [24:21] How Sydney recharges Sydney’s Inspira...

Aug 27, 202029 minSeason 2Ep. 8
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