did you know that tammi salas + sondra primeaux co-hosted @theunruffledpodcast from 2017 - 2021? yes, we used to record a weekly episode for four years straight! it definitely kept us sober. in the summer of 2021, during the pandemic, we hit an indefinite pause on the podcast. recently, we recorded a check-in and got caught up on life + sobriety. this is part one of two episodes. last night, i figured out (on my very own) how to finally move the podcast over to spotify. we recorded over 200+ epi...
Mar 09, 2025•1 hr 8 min•Season 1Ep. 209
We are back for a check-in with each other! Our last recording was in August 2021. This is Us NOW in 2022.
Aug 29, 2022•1 hr 22 min
After 4+ years, over 200 episodes and 1M downloads, Tammi and Sondra are ready to take an indefinite break from recording the podcast. The pandemic of 2020-21 has invited so many emotions: grief, resilience, liminality. But it has also invited us to question how we do everything. Tammi and Sondra have decided to accept this invitation as a chance to work on individual new projects that could only happen if the decks were cleared. They aren’t shutting anything down, there is a beautiful archive t...
Jul 30, 2021•40 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra talk about Summer: Summer plans, Summer travel, and most importantly, Summer sobriety. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) Nine Perfect Strangers by Liane Moriarty; (2) HBOmax series Hacks; and (3) New Creative Ideas. Tammi: (1) It’s Not Your Money by Tosha Silver; (2) Red Lipstick; and (3) Podcasts!
Jun 28, 2021•1 hr 5 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Anthony Eder. Anthony loves music, knitting and connecting with people in recovery, all from the beautiful mountains of Southern California. He also hosts one of the queer-focused meetings at The Luckiest Club, an online sobriety support community. You can find Anthony on Instagram @mwendo.soul. This week, Anthony shares three items from his Unruffled Toolbox: (1) Author, Adrian Michael; (2) “When in doubt, dance it out!”; and (3) Knitting.
Jun 14, 2021•1 hr 13 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra talk about some big and fast approaching milestones. Milestones, whether they are graduations, sober anniversaries or birthdays, are always part joy and part grief. This episode is about the navigation of emotions, emotions made available as a byproduct of recovery. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) Writing (2) Fiction; and (3) Good TV. Tammi: (1) Creating my audio-newsletter The Weekly WRAP; (2) The...
May 31, 2021•1 hr 9 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Casey McGuire Davidson. Casey is a certified professional life and sobriety coach and the host of The Hello Someday Podcast. “Is sobriety boring?” is a question Casey hears often as a coach. They talk about the fear of boredom that keeps some people from considering sobriety, they talk about the irony of monotony (life actually gets bigger when you stop drinking), and they share ideas on making your life more fun and joyful when you quit drinkin...
May 17, 2021•1 hr 21 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra work a few ideas out: overfunctioning, expectations that turn into resentments and efforting that goes nowhere. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times; (2) Volunteering at Austin Creative Reuse; and (3) #AmWriting Podcast. Tammi: (1) The Good Times Are Killing Me by Lynda Barry; (2) Sleep; and (3) Accountability partners.
May 03, 2021•1 hr 3 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Kate Baily. Kate is a certified Life and Personal Performance Coach who specializes in helping women get, stay and love being sober. She is also the coauthor of the book “Love Yourself Sober” and is the cohost of the Love Sober podcast with Mandy Manners. They talk about the beautiful life that can bloom from recovery, in parenting, in ritual, in creativity. You can learn more about Kate, including her book and podcast, at https://www.katebaily....
Apr 19, 2021•1 hr 11 min
Tammi and Sondra are back from a much-needed podcast break, and they catch up on four areas: family, creativity, health and recovery. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) Do Nothing: How to break away from overworking, overdoing and underliving by Celeste Headlee; (2) On Being Podcast, What’s happening in our nervous systems? With Christine Runyan; (3) Sondra’s newsletter as connection. Tammi: (1) Leann Rimes’ album CHANT: The Human & The Ho...
Apr 05, 2021•1 hr 5 min
Today on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are excited to welcome Carrie Mallon. Carrie is a professional tarot reader, teacher, and co-creator of The Spacious Tarot deck. Carrie gives some history of tarot, explains the basics of a tarot deck and her ideas on how tarot can be part of any spiritual practice. Tammi and Sondra love Carrie’s website, http://carriemallon.com/, and refer to it often in their own tarot card practice. You can also follow Carrie on Instagram @carriemallon and buy her beauti...
Feb 01, 2021•1 hr 11 min
Today on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra reflect on Inauguration Day. They gush about the women and the diversity and the art on the stage. They talk about being spellbound by the fashion and the poet, Amanda Gorman. They talk about the message of hope delivered and received, and felt that was worth a conversation.
Jan 25, 2021•31 min
This week on the podcast, Sondra and Tammi welcome back their friend and favorite astrologer, Natha Campanella. (Natha’s first appearance was Episode 60.) They asked Natha to come back so they could discuss some things that were brought up in each of the various readings they’d had with her and give evidence as to how they’ve played out. They also beg for some positive forecasting for 2021.To learn more about Natha and her upcoming offerings, you can find her at https://nathacampanella.com/ or f...
Jan 18, 2021•1 hr 9 min
Today on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra process some thoughts about January 6th, 2021. They talk about safety as a privilege, they talk about sobriety as a manager when all other leadership feels absent, and they talk about tools for anxiety (spoiler: sometimes a tool is pizza).
Jan 11, 2021•36 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra look ahead to the new year. This is their fourth time to do a New Year’s podcast and it definitely has a different tone than any they’ve recorded. They talk about the realities of a new year while still in a pandemic, they talk about their words for the year, and they talk about changes they are making that feel a little like hope. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) “Broken Open” by Elizabeth Lesser; ...
Jan 04, 2021•1 hr 5 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra review the year, and what a year it’s been. They talk about the clarity that has come from 2020, the ways they double-downed on their recovery and they reflect on their 2020 Words of the Year, ending with a projection for 2021. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) Money work; (2) Planner/Ledger/Journal; and (3) Studio. Tammi: (1) My Quaran-routine; (2) Zoom; and (3) Therapy + Teachers.
Dec 28, 2020•1 hr 18 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome back their sweet French friend, Cody Degerness. Cody first told his story on the podcast (Episode 132) back in 2019 and returned in 2020 to talk about the Unruffled Florence Retreat (Episode 150) that sadly never happened due to the pandemic. Now he’s back to talk about life since then. They get right into it, including the challenges to staying sober during uncertain times. And with all of their conversations, it’s laden with a healthy dose of ...
Dec 21, 2020•1 hr 29 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra share a conversation with Linda Parmar. Linda is a Certified Money Coach©, Financial Recovery Counsellor℠, and Professional Recovery Coach who spent twenty years as a Financial Advisor. Becoming sober over six years ago, Linda also realized that she had an extreme addiction to spending money and getting sober magnified this. Tammi and Sondra talk about their own money stories and how they inform their financial habits today. Linda is a wealth of informa...
Dec 14, 2020•1 hr 22 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome back Shari Hampton. Shari was previously on Episode 84 two years ago as the founder of Served Up Sober, and now she’s back to talk about her new roles as a Trusted Advisor for SHE RECOVERS Foundation and an anti-racist consultant who works with recovery and treatment organizations to help them explore their biases and create pathways to stronger relationships. They talk about what safe recovery spaces look like for people of color, they talk abo...
Dec 07, 2020•1 hr 10 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are excited to share a conversation with Becky Joyce. Becky is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who has worked in private practice in Bend, Oregon for over fourteen years. Her business Noonday Counseling & Wellness was created out of a dream to provide a thriving therapeutic environment for anyone looking to experience healing, find joy, and dream big. She’s recently developed an online course that utilizes the wisdom of the Enneagram, and she’s on...
Nov 30, 2020•1 hr 28 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra dish about the approaching holidays. They talk about what it was like, how holiday 2020 will be like no other, and what they are doing to fortify their recovery. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) Martha Stewart Living magazine; (2) Pie; and (3) Games. Tammi: (1) Accepting What Is; (2) NA drink options; and (3) Meetings.
Nov 23, 2020•32 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are happy to share a conversation with Pete White. Fun fact, Pete was the only male to ever be in the Unruffled secret Facebook group, but that was only for a couple of weeks. When they decided it was to be female-identified only, he was gracious to leave and Pete extends the same graciousness with a good dose of humor to the online recovery space. They talk about rock bottoms, divorce, and what thriving looks like in recovery. You can learn more about ...
Nov 16, 2020•1 hr 14 min
Today on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra download some thoughts about the 2020 election, recorded on the day after. They express some emotion but to stay in solution, they share lots of tools.
Nov 09, 2020•37 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome their friend, Colleen Marie. Colleen works full-time in marketing and franchise business development for a fitness studio and is also developing a platform to help yoga teachers create their own businesses while she concurrently creates her own. They talk about thriving in sobriety, they talk about grief and loss in recovery and they talk about the cautionary signs of relapse. Content warning: there is the mention of suicide in this episode. To ...
Nov 02, 2020•1 hr 19 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome writer and recovery advocate, Erin Khar. They talk about her debut memoir, Strung Out: One Last Hit and Other Lies that Nearly Killed Me, a deeply personal account of her fifteen-year struggle with heroin. They talk about the national opioid crisis and the part privilege plays in a successful recovery. They talk about writing as a balm. You can learn more about Erin, buy her book and read her phenomenal advice column, Ask Erin, at https://www.er...
Oct 26, 2020•1 hr 19 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra talk about emotions that are coming up for them at this time, namely anger. They talk about the source and the solution. It’s an intimate conversation this week, like a good therapy session.
Oct 19, 2020•50 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome their friend, Michelle Nicole. Michelle found recovery at the age of nineteen and has spent over half of her life actively involved in 12 step recovery. They talk about the deep reverence she has for 12 step, and they talk about how online recovery spaces, particularly The Unruffled secret Facebook group, opened her eyes and heart to the many pathways to recovery. Michelle is a seeker and creative soul and that is apparent in how she shows up fo...
Oct 12, 2020•1 hr 22 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are thrilled to share a conversation with their friend, Kara Jean. They talk about what it’s like to get sober in your twenties and the unique challenges that come with that. Kara is an inspirational example for anyone who thinks that just maybe they don’t have to wait for things to get worse before they make a decision to quit drinking. You can follow Kara on Instagram @kara.van. This week, Kara shares three items from her Unruffled Toolbox: (1) Sober ...
Oct 05, 2020•1 hr 16 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are excited to share a conversation with Rev. Erin Jean Warde. Erin is an Austin-based Episcopal priest, spiritual director, writer and Peer Coach at Tempest. They talk about what it’s like to get sober when you have a solid theology behind you, they talk about what inclusivity looks like in recovery for both a secular and nonsecular path, and they talk about her favorite mystics. You can learn more about Erin and sign up for her Sobriety & Spiritua...
Sep 28, 2020•1 hr 21 min
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra share a conversation with Amy Eden Jollymore. Amy is a California-based author and journal writing advocate. They talk extensively about being an adult child of an alcoholic and disordered eating, two topics not often explored on the podcast, and Amy poignantly shares her journey of self-healing throughout. You can do your own self-healing work through her book, The Kind Self-Healing Book: Raise Yourself Up Through Curiosity and Compassion. To learn mor...
Sep 21, 2020•1 hr 27 min
