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NO SUCH THING

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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan — three best friends and journalists — as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research. 

Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don’t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.

NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can’t agree on. If you’ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.

New episodes on Wednesdays.

For more information, please subscribe to our newsletter at www.nosuchthing.show.

And if you have any questions you’d like us to get to the bottom of, email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail: ‪(860) 325-0286.

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Episodes

Why did Taylor Swift stop singing in a country accent?

On today’s episode, we’re tackling a question from a listener named Joel: Why do singers lose their accents when they sing? Our guest this week is New Yorker writer Kelefa Sanneh . In this wide-ranging conversation, we explore identity in country music, why Taylor Swift stopped singing with a twang, how Drake changed the way people think about authenticity in hip-hop, and why Adele and Harry Styles don’t sound British when they sing. Want to hear all the music from this episode? Check out our ne...

May 06, 20261 hr 8 minEp. 63

Does micromanaging actually work?

This week’s topic came from a listener who asked if micromanaging is a more productive work-style than a more “free range” approach. We talk about our own work experiences, and answer a few other miscellaneous work questions about performance improvement plans (“PIPs”), handling an incompetent boss, office odors, and more. Our guest this week is Erik Baker , historian at Harvard, editor at The Drift , and author of Make Your Own Job: How the Entrepreneurial Work Ethic Exhausted America , who wal...

Apr 29, 20261 hr 3 minEp. 62

Is recycling a complete scam? (PART 2)

Growing up, we were told to always recycle plastic to save the planet. But does recycling actually do anything? In this special two-part investigation, we explore the history of recycling, the rise of “disposable” plastics, and find out how effective recycling actually is. In part one (with the help of Nayeema Raza, host of Smart Girl Dumb Questions ), we hear from Davis Allen, PhD, Senior Investigative Researcher at the Center for Climate Integrity , who alleges that plastic recycling is a dece...

Apr 22, 202634 minEp. 61

Is recycling a complete scam? (PART 1)

Growing up, we were told to always recycle plastic to save the planet. But does recycling actually do anything? In this special two-part investigation, we explore the history of recycling, the rise of “disposable” plastics, and find out how effective recycling actually is. In part one (with the help of Nayeema Raza, host of Smart Girl Dumb Questions ), we hear from Davis Allen, PhD, Senior Investigative Researcher at the Center for Climate Integrity , who alleges that plastic recycling is a dece...

Apr 22, 202643 minEp. 60

Kids can’t read anymore. Does it matter? (with author Jason Reynolds)

Are we in the midst of a reading crisis? News outlets are constantly reporting on the death of reading . School test scores by measures like the “Nation’s Report Card” say math and literacy levels are down to their lowest rates since the early 1990s. Schools aren’t even assigning full books in class anymore. We talk to children’s book author Jason Reynolds, an active teacher in Chicago public schools, and a professor who’s looked into the actual research and says the literacy crisis doesn’t even...

Apr 15, 202659 minEp. 59

Eggs in the fridge, expired meds, loud sneezes, and more (Mailbag)

On today's episode of NO SUCH THING, Manny, Noah, and Devan, jump into the mailbag. Should you keep your eggs in the fridge? Why do some people sneeze so loudly? Where did we get the 24 hour day from? Why and how does medicine expire? And what's the traditional jelly in a PB&J: grape or strawberry? ICYMI: Manny wrote a book and you can check it out here! It's called Colored People Time: A Case for (Casual) Rebellion , and it's a collection of essays about the ways that time wraps itself arou...

Apr 08, 202644 minEp. 58

TINY CAMERAS!?! We found out what those customer satisfaction buttons actually do

This week we’re answering a question from a listener named Emma: What do those smiley-face customer-satisfaction buttons you see in airport bathrooms actually do? We track down the Finland-based company behind them, HappyOrNot, and uncover a hidden world of analytics, cameras, and AI. Our guest this week is Scott Erickson, HappyOrNot’s VP of US Sales and Global Channels. For links to research and more, check out our newsletter . Like this episode? Check out Is your phone listening to you ... and...

Apr 01, 202636 minEp. 57

Should athletes be allowed to bet on themselves?

Manny wrote a book and you can check it out here! It's called Colored People Time: A Case for (Casual) Rebellion, and it's a collection of essays about the ways that time wraps itself around our most personal moments. If you're around NYC, the boys will be discussing the book in a live event on March 29th, order tickets here. Now, on today's episode, Manny, Noah, and Devan discuss the sports betting takeover happening in the United States and around the world, and are joined by Danny Funt, the a...

Mar 25, 202649 minEp. 56

Was Benjamin Franklin a fraud?

We know Benjamin Franklin as a founding father, crucial in the establishment of the United States, discoverer of electricity, kooky writer of almanacs, and inventor of much, much more. But is it possible that good old Benny is actually a complete scammer? We investigate a conspiracy theory that Mr. $100 is not all he’s cracked up to be. Our guest this week is Claire Aubin, historian and host of This Guy Sucked , with a special thanks to our instigating debaters Kelsey and Rich. Buy Manny's Book,...

Mar 18, 20261 hr 1 minEp. 55

Are dentists scamming us? We investigate

On today’s episode, we tackle a question we’ve all wondered: Are dentists scamming us? We dive into the dark history of dentistry, find out why dental insurance sucks, hear from someone who uncovered a dentist drilling teeth for profit, and talk to a startup founder who’s looking to upend the whole industry. Lilly Kaplan — licensed therapis t and Reality Test newsletter author — sits in for Manny this week. Listen to: Do you need therapy? (ft. Lilly) Our guests this week are: AJ Jacobs , journal...

Mar 11, 202658 minEp. 54

Why are there so many twin films?

On this week's episode, the boys chat with Chris and Lizzie, the hosts of the What Went Wrong podcast about why Hollywood produces so many "twin films," movies that have very similar concepts and that release within a year of each other. They also debate whether A Bug's Life or ANTZ is the better movie, and talk through some controversial Hollywood development rumors. For links to research and more, check out our newsletter . Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmai...

Mar 04, 202647 minEp. 53

Should the internet be a public utility?

Why is it such a hassle to deal with internet service providers? Spotty service, hidden price increases, and only one company servicing my neighborhood. Am I up against a local monopoly? And what’s the deal with 5G home internet? I’ve been battling my ISP for years, and it’s time to find some answers. Our guest this week is Emily Stewart, senior correspondent at Business Insider. Also featuring guest co-host Rachel Askenazi, journalist and founder of Throwing Spaghetti Media. For links to resear...

Feb 25, 202635 minEp. 52

Will AI take our jobs?

Is AI actually coming for your job? This week, we take a peek under the hood of autonomous AI tools. What they do well, where they still fall short, and how much we can expect them to improve in the future. Investigative reporter and Shell Game host Evan Ratliff joins us alongside AI researcher and Shell Game technical advisor Maty Bohacek to break it all down. Listen to Shell Game >> Check out our newsletter and follow us on Instagram . Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at m...

Feb 18, 202649 minEp. 51

Why do divorced guys act like that?

What happens to our brains and bodies after a breakup? Semafor media reporter and Mixed Signals co-host Max Tani joins the pod to unpack “Divorced Guy Energy,” from Justin Trudeau and Kanye West to Breaking Bad’s Walter White — and what psychology and sociology say about how men change after divorce. Our guests this week are psychologist and YouTuber Maika Steinborn and sociologist Jessica Calarco , author of Holding It Together: How Women Became America’s Safety Net , we dig into the science, s...

Feb 11, 202648 minEp. 50

Are outdoor cats happier than indoor cats?

This week, Kate Lindsay— ICYMI host , Embedded author, and proud cat lover—sits in for Manny, and we go deep on everything you’ve ever wanted to know about cats. Our expert this week is Dr. Mikel Delgado, a cat behaviorist, scientist, and author of Play With Your Cat! Listen to: • Are suburban dogs happier than city dogs? • Why can’t adults order from the kids’ menu? For pics of Kate’s very cute cats, check out our newsletter — and follow us on Instagram for video clips and behind-the-scenes mom...

Feb 04, 20261 hr 1 minEp. 49

Can humans be cloned?

Why are there so many celebrity clone conspiracy theories? Is there really a Melania Trump body double? Have scientists actually tried to clone humans? And, how does cloning actually work? We hear from an alleged clone himself, and talk to a biosciences expert to find out how feasible these theories actually are. This week features Chelsey Weber-Smith, whose show American Hysteria covers all sorts of strange hoaxes, moral panics, and odd misunderstandings. Also featuring Hank T. Greely, director...

Jan 28, 202651 minEp. 48

Presenting Mind Games | The Guru’s Guru

We’ll be back next week. In the meantime, check out the first episode of a show we’re super excited about. Listen to Mind Games Check out our newsletter . Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at ‪(860) 325-0286 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Jan 21, 202644 min

Should politicians be funny? (with Mike Birbiglia)

On today's episode, Manny, Noah, and Devan chat about the use of humor in politics. Using Gavin Newsom's recent mocking of Donald Trump as a jumping off point, the boys assess how effective humor can be as a political strategy. They hear from humor historian Mark Rolfe, of the University of New South Wales in Australia, and then Manny talks to Mike Birbiglia, host of the Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out podcast, to get thoughts from an actual comedian. Be sure to check our website for more about ...

Jan 07, 202647 minEp. 47

NST Picks: The best of 2025 (and our best arguments)

In their 2025 Year in Review, the hosts of "No Such Thing" share their top picks across music, movies, and TV, alongside deeply personal reflections on moments from their own podcast that changed their perspectives. They discuss everything from indie folk albums and dark Korean comedies to the emotional impact of live concerts and hilarious debates about the five-second rule, highlighting the show's evolution and audience engagement. This episode provides a blend of cultural recommendations and a candid look back at the insights gained from a year of research-backed arguments.

Dec 31, 202553 minEp. 46

Do horses actually hate running? (Remastered)

Today, we're throwing a NST classic back in your feed. This time remastered. What if this ONE thing we’ve always been told about horses isn’t true at all? What if it’s a lie we’ve told ourselves so that we can enjoy our horseback riding vacations and Kentucky Derbies without guilt? To answer this question we speak with Ren Hurst, a former professional horse trainer and author of “The Wisdom of Wilderness.” And we venture to New Jersey to spend some time with horses at the Bergen County Horse Res...

Dec 24, 202539 min

Does religion make you happier?

This week, the boys grapple with the big questions: Is there a God? What happens after you die? Does bowling make you happier than Catholic Mass? We speak to a researcher who’s studied health outcomes of faith-based practices to find out if religious people are happier than others, and what it means for worldwide wellbeing when religiosity is on the decline overall. Our guests this week are Dr. Harold G. Koenig, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Duke University, and Rabbi Jason ...

Dec 17, 202538 minEp. 45

NST Hotline: B-list wedding invites, hallway storage, and more

On today's episode of NO SUCH THING, it's the NST Hotline. Listeners have called in to the show asking for advice, and the boys hand out some sage wisdom. Is it bad to send B-list wedding invites? Should you side with your family or your spouse in a conflict? Is it okay to store things in the hallway outside of your apartment? That, and more, followed by the NST Holiday Gift Guide for 2025. For more, check out our newsletter . Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gma...

Dec 10, 202556 minEp. 44

Why do Tesla door handles suck? (Devan Design Week)

Welcome to Devan Design Week, a one-episode celebration of the stuff Devan cannot stand the design of. From Tesla’s confusing door handles, to microwaves with too many buttons, and sad modern couches. Our guests this week are: WIRED’s Aarian Marshall , Kill Switch host and part-time microwave engineer Dexter Thomas, and design expert and Snake newsletter writer Sami Reiss. We reached out to Tesla about the claims that its electronic door handles are dangerous, but we haven't heard back. Head ove...

Dec 03, 202550 minEp. 43

Why can’t men find anything?

Why do men have so much trouble finding everyday items in their own homes? It’s a common sitcom trope, but is there actually something to it. This week, for the sake of the women in our lives, we dig into the research to find out if “ male refrigerator blindness ” is real, explore if it dates all the way back to our hunter-gatherer roots, and find out what we can do about it. Our guest this week is Dr. Albert Postma , leader of the Memory & Space Lab at Utrecht University. For more, check ou...

Nov 26, 202536 minEp. 42

Could you get away with murder?

Nearly half of homicide cases go unsolved in the US, and in today's episode, the boys try and get to the bottom of why that is. Joining NO SUCH THING this week are criminologist Dr. Brian Forst and homicide detective Chris McDonough. After learning about the importance of "community policing," Manny makes Noah and Devan concoct plans to whack each other, and presents said plans to the detective to see if they might get away with it. For more, check out our newsletter and follow us on Instagram ....

Nov 19, 202552 minEp. 41

Are you doing your laundry wrong?

By popular demand, we answered all of your laundry questions: Do you really need to separate lights from darks? How much detergent should you use? Are front-loading machines better than top-loading? What do dry cleaners actually do? And much, much more. Our guest this week is Patric Richardson, author of Laundry Love: Finding Joy in a Common Chore . For more, check out our newsletter and follow us on Instagram . Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave...

Nov 12, 202542 minEp. 40

How did celebrity rumors spread before social media?

For this week’s episode, we collaborated with Ryan Broderick and Grant Irving from Panic World to go deep on three middle school rumors. We’ll investigate the false rumor that Ciara announced she was intersex, the “jenkem” panic of the 90s, and the rumor that Marilyn Manson had a rib removed so that he could…you know. Listen to Panic World and subscribe to Garbage Day . Head over to nosuchthing.show to see some of the visuals from this episode and follow us on Instagram . Have a question you wan...

Nov 05, 202549 minEp. 39

How often do you actually need to shower?

For this episode, we make our way back into the bathroom as we go deep on showering. How often should you actually shower? What’s the proper way to do it? Do you actually need to wash your legs every time? How long should your shower last? Should you be using a loofah — or are they actually bad for you? Our guests this week are Katherine Ashenberg, author of The Dirty on Clean: An Unsanitized History and board-certified dermatologist Dr. Lisa Akintilo . For more, check out our newsletter and fol...

Oct 29, 202546 minEp. 38

What happens to a property after a murder?

On today's episode, we're putting on our true crime hats to get to the bottom of what happens to properties after high-profile murders occur inside of them. We talk to journalist Catherine Fenollosa, who shared with us her interview with Randall Bell, A.K.A. the “Master of Disaster.” For decades, it’s been Randall’s job to manage and help sell the property where these kind of tragedies happen. From Nicole Brown Simpson’s condo, to the “Heaven’s Gate” mansion, to the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, R...

Oct 22, 202539 minEp. 37

Is Taylor Swift bigger than Michael Jackson?

So everyone knows Taylor Swift is one of the most popular musicians of all time, but how does she stack up to giants of the past like Michael Jackson and The Beatles? No matter how many reports of new chart records, we can’t shake the feeling that someone like MJ just had a larger cultural impact worldwide. This week, we crunch the numbers to see the true size of the Swiftdom we live in. Our guest this week is Chris Dalla Riva, author of Uncharted Territory: What Numbers Tell Us about the Bigges...

Oct 15, 202543 minEp. 36
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