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The MeatEater Podcast

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Building on the belief that a deeper understanding of the natural world enriches all of our lives, host Steven Rinella brings an in-depth and relevant look at all outdoor topics including hunting, fishing, nature, conservation, and wild foods. Filled with humor, irreverence, and things that will surprise the hell out of you, each episode welcomes a diverse group of guests who add their own expertise to the vast world of the outdoors. Part of The MeatEater Podcast Network.
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Episodes

Ep. 232: How You Get to be a Big 'Ol Bear, Plus an Interview with Don Trump Jr.

Steven Rinella talks with Clay Newcomb , Rick Smith , Seth Morris , Janis Putelis , and Donald Trump Jr. Topics discussed: Federal blaze orange laws; blood trailing dogs as an ethical tool for recovery; all the songs written about Jani and skiing; fish rigor and how AK's Fish and Game has it dialed; Steve and Seth's new TV special, Deep Drop Boyz; how cave art puts a smile on Rick's face; the definition of a therianthrope; elk esophogi replacing radiator hoses; a hatchling in a car part crossing...

Aug 03, 20202 hr 36 min

Ep. 231: The Pied Piper of Duck Hunters

Steven Rinella talks with Ramsey Russell , Hanzi Deschermeier , Corinne Schneider, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: How Jani is so not a trapper that he reminds himself to check traps by writing "coon" on his hand; Frito pie with mountain lion; Corinne and strawberries; breaking down what it means to flesh something out; the A.S.S. movement , the tissue issue, and how surface shitters are like meth heads; ocellated turkey stories and how badly Steve wants to hunt one; Ramsey on a life of co...

Jul 27, 20202 hr 15 min

Ep. 230: A Difficult Conversation

Steven Rinella talks with Rue Mapp and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: A solid two-syllable, navigational name; when your cowboy dad hangs pigs in your garage and you don't want kids on the school bus to see; how parades mean different things to different people; Outdoor Afro re-connecting black Americans to the outdoors ; upping your nature swagger; unpacking statistics; how black children drown at five times the rate of white children in the US; Harriet Tubman as a wilderness leader; losing ...

Jul 20, 20201 hr 45 min

Ep. 229: The Atomic Oryx

Steven Rinella talks with Karl Malcolm , Mike Ruhl , Jeremy Romero , and Seth Morris . Topics discussed: Jewel and being attracted to snaggle teeth; Teen Wolf; how the Flip Flop Flesher no longer fleshes squat; White Sands Missile Range as the original introduction site of the African oryx; mildly radioactive Trinitite for sale; use of the word skookum; getting stuff your mom makes vs. getting Nike shoes, Doritos, and Michael Jackson jackets, or how Steve's parents didn't buy their kids stupid s...

Jul 13, 20202 hr 10 min

Ep. 228: Venison is the New Kale

Steven Rinella talks with chef Michael Hunter , Brody Henderson , Corinne Schneider, and Phil Taylor. Topics discussed: The omnipresence of dandelions; gas station diner to big time chef; the irony of applying preservation techniques to food and then eating that food right away; Steve overriding his own “first in, first out” freezer rule; woodcocks dropping bowels; cattails; vegans both protesting and supporting your restaurant; accidentally outing the butcher shop next door; counter-protesting ...

Jul 06, 20201 hr 44 min

Ep. 227: Red Cutter

Steven Rinella talks with meat scientist Dr. Chris Calkins , Spencer Neuharth , Corinne Schneider, and Phil Taylor. Topics discussed: debunking meat myths; how stress affects the flavor of meat; myoglobin and hemoglobin; why you shouldn't cut into an animal before rigor mortis is complete; muscle is muscle; Steve's insistence on saying "red cutter," when it's actually dark cutter; the benefits of electrocuting meat; to bleed or not to bleed; muscle is 75% water; why you should keep the bones att...

Jun 29, 20201 hr 53 min

Ep. 226: The Life and Times of the Antler Man

Steven Rinella talks with Jim Phillips , Corinne Schneider, Spencer Neuharth , Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: never paying for an antler; Steve as an incidental shed hunter; Jim refusing to insure his horn shed; an important premonition; getting poked; guessing at the value of 16,000 antlers; a little man living in your body; zigs and zags; not counting brow tines; having a 400-ton rock collection; donating antlers for a sting operation; not getting with the program; enjoying...

Jun 22, 20201 hr 32 min

Ep. 225: An Expensive Episode

Steven Rinella talks with Adam Weatherby , Kevin Wilkerson, Luke Thorkildsen, Ryan Callaghan , Brody Henderson , Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: boring stuff about beer; Elmer Fudd is now disarmed, Steve in small claims court; the Long Tong Song (credit to Andy Martin); indirectly talking to your boyfriend through a baby cat voice; Kevin regenerating his thumb; Jani bars; Rinella-Putelis 2020 and MeatEater's goal to open up more access to public land; Cal's gluteal crease; pro...

Jun 15, 20201 hr 57 min

Ep. 224: Size Matters

Steven Rinella talks with Boone and Crockett Club 's Justin Spring, Kyle Lehr, and Tony Schoonen, plus Phil Taylor and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: Apologies to a dude with a rotten whitefish; a child's marble in a turkey’s gizzard; Wonders of Wildlife and selling lures out of your dad's liquor store; is Steve's dad in the B&C record?; Boone and Nugent; deductions and hunter-based grievances with the B&C scoring system; how much Steve loves the word, "penalize"; bilateral symmetry a...

Jun 07, 20202 hr

Ep. 223: Shooting Trees to Death

Steven Rinella talks with Brody Henderson , Spencer Neuharth , Ryan Callaghan , Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: Regs; Covid-19 and drinking Tommy’s spit; how the new shooting-trees-over trend is an ugly thing; the mortal danger of growing a morel mushroom ; Steve's fantastic analogy for mycelium, and his general strengths in that area; MeatEater's upcoming long ass book about wilderness skills; a lack of humility on the part of Brody and Steve; .410 expressed as a “gauge”; the...

Jun 01, 20201 hr 59 min

Ep. 222: Morels in the Time of Covid

Steven Rinella talks with Spencer Neuharth , Ryan Callaghan , Joe Ferronato , and Phil Taylor. Topics discussed: Too many Twin Lakes; practicing civil disobedience in order to get married; a strong prejudice against yoga studios; the obvious upsides of an open bar; the mystique of morels; cracking the code on lab grown mushrooms; how Cal found a morel in a gravel patch by a manhole cover in downtown Boise; the disgruntled hunter; a nasty rabbit disease hits American shores; Spencer as a newly fo...

May 25, 20201 hr 38 min

Ep. 221: The Perfect Rock

Steven Rinella talks with Ryan Callaghan , Seth Morris , Brody Henderson , Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: how all of the stuff you add to braising liquid matters; Steve draws a MT mountain goat tag; explaining point creep; spike antlers; hot tips for hunting pressurized land; the bird that nightmares are made of; strutting and gobbling as an ok way to spend a day; Pleistocene re-wilding as a complete waste of time but a fun distraction; becoming a cattle apologist with old ag...

May 18, 20201 hr 57 min

Ep. 220: An Elk-Hunting Nudist Checks the Breeze

Steven Rinella talks with Bart George , Phil Taylor, Ryan Callaghan , and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: Starting life and ending life in PJs; how the lower-48’s caribou vanished; a deceased oscillated turkey; the last ever flip flop story; Jani being a chit-chatter with his seat mates on airplanes; cows not condos; kangaroo meat being favorite; your dead dog tied to a tree; when a 3-year-old lion kills 14 alpacas in a single night, is that surplus slaughter?; a bear rolls down a hill and ont...

May 11, 20201 hr 34 min

Ep. 219: Snake Oil

Steven Rinella talks with Dr. Robert Reed and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: an entire peer reviewed publication from a single Burmese python poop; three dead deer inside a snake; death by hair; the Florida Everglades; being a sophomore at UC Berkeley and buying a snake to get girls to your dorm room; where the hell did they all come from?; low detection rates are a bitch; squirrels as biological exhibitionists; how Steve has a really bad endotherm bias; bio accumulation of mercury; python hu...

May 04, 20201 hr 35 min

Ep. 218: The World's Best Small Game Hunter Conquers Mongolia

Steven Rinella talks with Kevin Murphy , Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: The wild swings of rabbit populations; a hunting station wagon brought back from the dead; a dog named Wings&Things; wanderlust; an epic hunting trip to Mongolia; how your shit needs to be in shape to hunt snowshoe hares; the last remaining eagle hunters in the world; an owl, three golden eagles, two ravens, five Mongolians, and two Americans on horseback trying to catch a critter; how harness boots a...

Apr 27, 20201 hr 40 min

Ep. 217: Mark Kurlansky on Saving Salmon

Steven Rinella talks with Mark Kurlansky , Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: Mark being a lifelong fisherman; fisheries and over fishing as only minor problems by comparison; how salmon get hit by everything we do wrong; the 11-foot-high jump of the salmon; Francisco Franco, dictator of Spain and dedicated fly fisherman; the Atlantic Ocean's decreasing carrying capacity; why catch it if you're going to release it?; calibrating the success of salmon stock recovery to population n...

Apr 20, 20201 hr 47 min

Ep. 216: Roasting Coffee In The CIA

Steven Rinella talks with Evan Hafer , Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: ice fishing is not a crime; exactly how big is a big blood transfusion?; let’s sort out addiction issues later; ass goblins; Bergmann's rule and Allen's rule; negligent discharges; pissing out your car door and into your ice hole; Black Rifle Coffee Company ; growing up outdoors; why it’s called MeatEater; having more degrees than intelligence; back-slapping, pleated-Dockers-wearing, back-nine D-bags; accli...

Apr 13, 20201 hr 42 min

Ep. 215: I Miss My Friends

Steven Rinella talks with Phil Taylor, Ryan Callaghan , and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: Steve's violated sense of artistic sensibility; Cal gets robbed by meth heads; is it okay to kill someone for stealing your shit?; how everyone knows the sound of their own truck; stick 'em up!; Steve’s elaborate vengeance fantasies; making the perfect batch of turkey stock; prepping vs. supporting your community; how Cal borrowed Steve's dehydrator and will not return it during this time of need; hunti...

Apr 06, 20201 hr 30 min

Ep. 214: Gobbling Your Ass Off

Steven Rinella talks with Michael Chamberlain , Brody Henderson , Seth Morris , and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: Just how much is a unit of blood?; packin' tourniquets; how Jani's wife won't give Steve weasel trapping permission; etymology; hunting turkeys with dogs; the kee-kee run; how many critters kill and eat turkeys?; the wild turkey Bermuda Triangle; more things that make a turkey gobble; mesomammals; lies your daddy told you about wildlife; song meters and gobbling data; some big tu...

Mar 30, 20202 hr 22 min

Ep. 213: The Return of the Latvian Eagle

Steven Rinella talks with Miles Nolte , Brody Henderson , Ryan Callaghan , Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: The things that won the war; melting your wedding band into your finger; chap ass and irritated sphincters; getting a tater on your thing; Dumpster Diver Cal; manipulating a briefcase full of pike decoys; a golf ball with an eyelet through it; thrusting spears into fish; hot tips for making fish cakes; the myth that old folks know what’s up; is it bad when you positively ...

Mar 23, 20202 hr 4 min

Ep. 212: Chad Mendes on the Fight, the Hunt, and the Food

Steven Rinella talks with Chad Mendes , Ryan Callaghan , and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: the Total Putelis-Total Rinella Dinner; eating Jani’s baby moose; a whiffle ball bat for a leg; getting paid a couple thousand for a couple minutes’ work; Chad getting picked on in high school and then beating the guy’s ass; getting disciplined through hunting; lost in the woods; redlining your body multiple times per day; Finz and Featherz ; down to the peanut; fad diets; getting knocked out; the UFC ...

Mar 16, 20201 hr 49 min

Ep. 211: Hunting with Your Enemy

Steven Rinella talks with Dan Ahdoot , Brody Henderson , Phil Taylor, Corinne Schneider, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: Steve and Janis as the J-Lo and Shakira of the hunting world; merfolk and mermaid’s purses; Janis pushing past his limits on the dance floor; using a baby's umbilical cord as fishing bait; a tarantula rehabilitation program; how to make wild game kosher; an Iranian Jew and an Iraqi Muslim as hunting buddy BFFs; Long Island game wardens; having a bone to pick with duck hu...

Mar 09, 20201 hr 50 min

Ep. 210: Josh Carney on the Presence of a Feather

Steven Rinella talks with Josh Carney , Ryan Callaghan , and Phil Taylor. Topics discussed: How Josh is mean to Steve about his turkey calling; putting a rasp on it; living in town with 15 hunting dogs; skinning raccoons; a small game family; how turkey hunting is like dating at a bar; a 2 at 10 and a 10 at 2; not being tuned into hunting and fishing laws; what it feels like to be hit by buckshot; how it can all be taken away in a moment; dying on the operating table, twice; how you don't know w...

Mar 02, 20201 hr 38 min

Ep. 209: The Deer Nut

Steven Rinella talks to Jim Heffelfinger , Ryan Callaghan , and Phil Taylor. Topics discussed: an epidemic of llama losses; Grandpa Half-a-Finger and other stories of loss; does killing big bucks screw up deer genetics?; the difference between blacktail deer and whitetail deer, and where they came from; a whitetail fossil from the Pleistocene; Cowz, Cooze, and Couse; telekinetic levitation; why do deer lose their antlers?; Steve's disappointment with having less-than-average Neanderthal genes; w...

Feb 24, 20202 hr 11 min

Ep. 208: Dr. Justin Schmidt on Why It Hurts So Bad

Steven Rinella talks to Dr. Justin Schmidt , Li Schmidt, Corinne Schneider, Ryan Callaghan , and Phil Taylor. Topics discussed: A quick Chinese love song; developing the Schmidt Pain Index ; lying down on an ant hill; camouflage in the animal world; what Steve thought when he got stung by a bullet ant; poisonous defense systems; hitching a ride on a mosquito; how science progresses one coffin at a time; bot flies; having a furry proboscis; hell hath no fury like a horsefly; the big 5 of ants; th...

Feb 17, 20202 hr

Ep. 207: Bullfighting a Griz

Steven Rinella talks with Alex Messenger , Corinne Schneider, Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: The 29th day ; even more titillation; walleyes as an easy-to-clean fish; thinking in fathoms and rods; a 600 mile canoe trip; breaking down canoe strokes; bear poppers and spray; group dynamics in the wilderness; an exponential sense of peace; being scared of musk ox; everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face by a griz; playing ‘possum; doing the trip you're dealt; and ...

Feb 10, 20201 hr 58 min

Ep. 206: Hey, Icehole!

Steven Rinella talks with Spencer Neuharth , Corinne Schneider, Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: fact checking; does hunting half-tame pen-raised critters count as hunting?; oviparous vs. viviparous; do you really lose all that body heat through your head? ; measuring turkeys as trophies; getting rich selling taxidermy to big-assed box stores ; does gutting an animal really make your farts smell like guts? ; Phil catching the second fish of his life; and more. Connect with Stev...

Feb 03, 20201 hr 35 min

Ep. 205: The Cazador and the Coues

Steven Rinella talks with Kevin Sloan, Anthony Licata , Seth Morris , Ryan Callaghan , Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis . Topics discussed: A Viking funeral for a severed finger; pressure washing bear meat out of your sinuses; Anthony's cartel run-in; Steve's almost negligent shittiness at speaking Spanish; where persistence meets movement; Kevin seeing the shine off a deer’s nose; the half-wild dogs of Sonora and the one that stole Steve’s heart; pickles; MeatEater's live tour ; and more. Connect...

Jan 27, 20202 hr 3 min

Ep. 204: It Should Be Difficult to Get Lost Forever

Steven Rinella talks with Roman Dial , Anthony Licata , and Ryan Callaghan . Topics discussed: the death of a son ; dip-netting salmon; quitting climbing for marriage; playing the long game in child rearing; scaring yourself; being aware of what's dangerous; out dates; deadly snakes; the helplessness of modern humans; getting kicked out of the search for your own son; documentary tv vs. reality tv; the stink in the room you no longer notice; weeping through writing; and more. Connect with Steve ...

Jan 20, 20201 hr 39 min

Ep. 203: Thumbs Up or Down on 2019

Steven Rinella talks with Whit Fosburgh , Phil Taylor, and Ryan Callaghan . Topics discussed: Steve's perspective on why Jani isn't a true outdoorsman; Euro-mounting your amputated arm; why is a doornail dead?; New Mexico's stream access laws; S. 47 ; haggling over the Farm Bill ; what CRP fields are; pollinators; testifying before Congress; Pittman-Robertson and Dingell-Johnson ; migration corridors ; fisheries; Steve's kids attending seminars; ethanol as bad for your boat motor; and more. Conn...

Jan 13, 20202 hr 18 min
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