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Ops Cast

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Ops Cast, by MarketingOps.com, is a podcast for Marketing Operations Pros by Marketing Ops Pros. Hosted by Michael Hartmann, Mike Rizzo & Naomi Liu

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Episodes

**MOOPs** Episode 7 - Independent Consultant Anna Leary Shares Her Cloning Mistake and How That "Translated" to a Rough MOOPs

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! Tune in to this episode of MOOPs TV where Anna Leary shares a cloning mistake that resulted in a rather large mistake that impacted over 2-million records! Hear how she resolved it and the practical tips she provides on how to avoid mistakes like this in the future. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Support the show...

Jan 27, 202214 min

My Marketing Ops Journey with AJ Navarro

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! Our guest in this episode, AJ Navarro, shares his career journey from Sales to Marketing Ops and consulting, including how his experience with producing music taught him about marketing tech. If you've ever wondered what music production has to do with Marketing Ops, or what it's like to work as a consultant - this is the episode for you! AJ shares his lessons learned, including: How he learned via community and others who shared The value of men...

Jan 25, 202241 minSeason 1Ep. 44

My Marketing Ops Journey with Carissa McCall

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode we talk with Carissa McCall about her journey through roles in sales/inside sales, customer success and customer success operations, product marketing, and channel partnerships before landing in marketing operations. Carissa shares lessons about: Self-awareness - knowing what kind of work she enjoyed (and didn't) Being opportunistic and persistent Leveraging resources to learn about new topics If you are new to Marketing Ops or ju...

Jan 18, 202248 minSeason 1Ep. 43

**MOOPs** Episode 6 - A 2-million record DB mistake w/ Prasad Sawant, VP, Director of Marketing Technology at FCB Health

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! Prasad joins us on another episode of MOOPs tv to share a mistake that occurred within a database of over 2-million records. Tune in to find out what happened and how he went about remediating the mistake. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Support the show...

Jan 13, 202212 min

Is 2022 The Year of the Marketing Ops Professional?

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! During this (sorta) Ops Cast After Dark, we talk about one year of Ops Cast and we talk about predictions for 2022. Our starting point was 6 predictions about Marketing Operations in 2022 written in an article by a friend of the show, Darrell Alfonso . As you will see, we don't all see things the same and predictions are almost always tough. Listen, and then let us know what you expect for 2022. Recorded live on January 7, 2022. Episode Brought t...

Jan 10, 202245 minEp. 42

The Importance of Mentors in Career Path with Anna Leary

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! With the first of what is planned to be a series, we talk with Anna Leary about her path to Marketing Ops and into consulting. Learn how a stint of work in Australia randomly led her to working with Marketo. After her return to the United States, she moved away from MOPs but eventually found her way back. Lessons from Anna's story: Sometimes you have to be opportunistic Mentors and / or someone in your corner is key to any career Networking and c...

Dec 30, 202145 minSeason 1Ep. 41

**MOOPs** Episode 5 - Rachel Squire, Marketing Ops Manager at Tasktop

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! When Rachel joined us to record this MOOPs episode she was still in the role of Marketing Operations Manager. Her story is not uncommon, but her learning and approach to managing marketing technology (Marketo) is of course unique. Tune in to find out why she had to watch emails go out all day long before she could resolve anything. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Support the show...

Dec 21, 202110 min

Ops Cast (After Dark) with Courtney McAra

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In the latest episode of #OpsCastAfterDark, we had an open conversation with Courtney McAra. We talked a little about her path to Marketing Operations and then into consulting. We also talked about reaching some milestones with Ops Cast as this is the 40th episode and we recently went over 5,000 downloads. And, you get a little insight into: Photoshop and HTML hacks The best SDR outreach ever What the connection is between the Backstreet Boys and...

Dec 16, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 40

From Social Media to Marketing Ops to VP of Marketing w/ Kacyn Goranson

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode, we talk with Kacyn Goranson the now VP of Marketing at CM Group who's journey to Vice President actually started in Social, moved through Marketing Automation and Operations, and eventually got a seat at the leadership table. Tune in to hear: how she got there - spoiler alert, she says YES way more than no - and how she literally wrote her own job description!! her call out every publication for asking what it's like to be a youn...

Dec 09, 202145 minSeason 1Ep. 39

Ops Cast After Dark: MOps & IT Alignment, DAMs + MOps, and Project Management Challenges with Naomi Liu, Mike Rizzo and Michael Hartmann

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode, we have a casual conversation about several top of mind topics. There may or may not have been adult beverages involved. How important is Marketing Ops and IT alignment? Why is not talked about more? Should Digital Asset Management (DAMs) be under the domain of Marketing Ops? Why is project management and project management platforms a challenge? Recorded live. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Oper...

Dec 06, 202138 minSeason 1Ep. 38

Talking about Selling to MOps w/ Two Sales Pros; Ivan Robertson & Gary Levick

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! During a recent episode, we talked about our perspective as marketing operations professionals when it comes to buying technology or services. We talked about what we liked and didn't like from our experiences. During the conversation we challenged sales people to contact us if they wanted to come on and share their perspective from the other side of the "table." Ivan and Gary took us up on the offer, and we had a great conversation about their p...

Dec 01, 20211 hr 1 minSeason 1Ep. 37

**MOOPs** Episode 4 - Chelsea Kiko, Director of Marketing at McGraw-Hill

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! We all make mistakes in Marketing Operations. How you learn from them (and how you learn from these episodes) is what matters. Enjoy this great MOOPs shared by Chelsea Kiko during her use of Marketo and Salesforce and the mistake that was made to the routing programs they were trying to update. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Support the show...

Nov 27, 202113 min

Preparing Marketing Ops for a Cookie-less Future

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! So you've been hearing about the future of cookie-less browsers. But what does that all really mean? In this episode we speak to Nikki Candito, VP of Demand Strategy at MeritB2B ; Greg Manetti, CTO at Klearly ; and, Mary Blanks, CMO at Klearly about the forthcoming "cookie-less future". Tune in to hear their perspectives on what to think about, how to prepare, and some incredible thoughts around 3rd party Cookies. Episode Brought to You By MO Pro...

Nov 24, 202151 minSeason 1Ep. 36

Ops Cast After Dark: Reflecting on the year, mentorship, and more! w/ Naomi Liu, Michael Hartmann & Mike Rizzo

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! The "Three Amigos" (as Michael H. says) jump on a special recording of what may become a new set of special episodes we are calling "Ops Cast After Dark". In this episode, the team reflects on the past year of growth within the community plus we discuss the importance of mentorship for both the mentor and the mentee. FYI: Adult beverages were consumed during the recording of this episode. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Mar...

Nov 18, 202142 minSeason 1Ep. 35

MOps + Branding… Audio Branding! w/ Jodi Krangle

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! We had a great conversation with Jodi Krangle , a voice actor, who has a podcast about Audio Branding. What is Audio Branding, you ask? Great question. In the episode, Jodi breaks down: Definition of audio branding (hint: the Netflix sound is part of it, but not everything) Why should we as marketers and marketing ops professionals care about it? How this overlaps with - and should be considered like - other parts of branding like visual, written...

Nov 15, 202143 minSeason 1Ep. 34

**MOOPs** Episode 3 - Justin Norris & a slow-to-find mistake

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In the third episode of MOOPs TV Justin Norris shares how he made a mistake on a client account, but the interesting twist is that it actually took a while to discover the error! Watch the episode to find out what the mistake was and how (if possible) it was resolved. This taught Justin and the rest of the team a valuable lesson about checklists, operations documentation, and more! Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing ...

Nov 10, 202118 min

The Shortcomings of Attribution Modeling with Chris Walker

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode we talk with Chris Walker, the CEO and founder of Refine Labs about his view on attribution modeling and marketing. Attribution modeling is a hot topic for Marketing Ops professionals, and he has a different perspective on the value of attribution modeling versus other sources of insights to inform marketing. He is not suggesting that we should not be doing attribution modeling, but that we should be honest about what it can and c...

Nov 05, 202146 minSeason 1Ep. 33

You've Got Attribution Modeling...Now What? with Pete Furseth

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode, we talked with Pete Furseth about attribution modeling and best practices for use. Some of the things we talk about: Attribution modeling is not the end of the analytics journey, but an early step (think "crawl" in a "crawl, walk, run" model) Building your data literacy is a key new skill that everyone in Marketing Ops should be pursuing The importance of including costs in your attribution modeling (we break down different ways ...

Oct 29, 202149 minSeason 1Ep. 32

**MOOPs** Episode 2 - Jessica Meyers & Marketo + Imports - find out what went wrong!

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! Jessica shares an early mistake she made. It's not the most egregious or scandalous MOOPs, in fact, it's pretty tame compared to some of the ones we have coming up. But it taught Jessica invaluable lessons early in her MarketingOps career. Trust your instincts, she caught this mistake quite quickly and was able to start damage control because something wasn't sitting right. Ask for help - the fallout from her mistake could have been much worse, b...

Oct 22, 202114 min

The RevOps Maturity Model: How Does Scale Affect it? With Lorena Morales

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! During this episode we talk with Lorena Morales about the way her new Revenue Operations role at a large, global, publicly-traded company has challenged her thinking of revenue operations. Previously, she thought the journey was from siloed to centralized/integrated and aligned. Her new role has opened up her eyes that there may be a need (and a business justification) to become somewhat siloed again. That being said, she also mentioned that she ...

Oct 19, 202142 minSeason 1Ep. 31

The Secrets of Selling to Marketing Operations Professionals

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! This episode is a little different because it is geared toward both Marketing Ops professionals as well as those who are trying to sell to them. That's right, if you are selling to Marketing Ops, Revenue Ops, Martech or others, you should listen to this. We talk about what you should do (be interesting, be honest) and what not to do (waste our time when we have already done research). For those in The MO Pros community , we want to hear from you....

Oct 15, 202143 minSeason 1Ep. 30

**MOOPs** Episode 1 - Mike Rizzo & Jessica Meyers

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In the first episode of MOOPs TV Mike Rizzo shares how he made not ONE but TWO mistakes within just a matter of moments. Find out what those mistakes were and how (if possible) he resolved the issue before causing yet a third MOOPs. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Support the show...

Oct 07, 202114 min

Customer Data Platforms - what are they? What's all the hype? w/ Michael Davis

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! During this episode, we take a dive into Customer Data Platforms (CDPs). CDPs have been a hot topic over the past few years and we asked Michael Davis to help us cut through the hype and understand: What are CDPs? How can they be used? Common approaches to adding to a tech roadmap and build What are some pre-requisites? If you've been curious about CDPs and how/if they should be part of your Marketing Ops / Martech roadmap, you don't want to miss...

Oct 05, 202148 minSeason 1Ep. 29

Can Marketing Ops Generate Revenue Without a Marketing Strategy?

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode we talk with AJ Sedlak about the LinkedIn post he published in late August 2021. In his post he made the provocative statement that Marketing Ops could help deliver revenue for an organization in the absence of a Marketing Strategy....and at the same time, Marketing would struggle to deliver revenue without Ops. We dig into that topic and also cover: What should strategy look like from an Ops perspective How should Marketing Ops b...

Sep 30, 202148 minSeason 1Ep. 28

Customer Journey Mapping and Marketing Ops

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! What is Customer Journey Mapping? If you are in Marketing Ops, should you care? We tackle these questions, plus the difference between personas, ICPs (hint: it is not Insane Clown Posse), journey mapping in our conversation with Lucas and Islin Munisteri of Theia Marketing. Recorded live on September 21, 2021. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Support the show...

Sep 22, 202145 minSeason 1Ep. 27

EP 26 - Marketing Ops Career Lock, Learning, Trust & Customer Experience w/ Juan Mendoza

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode, we talk with Juan Mendoza the founder of The Martech Weekly newsletter and the producer of Making Sense of Martech Podcast about: How vendor-based training fits into learning Marketing Operations and the risks that type of training brings. What is "Career lock" and should you be concerned? Usability trumps education - if it's easy to use, learning is less important "Low-trust" created by media in Marketing Technology The future o...

Sep 17, 202152 minSeason 1Ep. 26

EP 25 - Building a MOPs Team that is a Strategic Business Partner w/ Nikki Luele

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode, we talk with Nikki Luele about her journey from a Marketing Ops team of one to 30! Nikki provides some insights on what she did early on to build momentum, what she learned along the way, and how she had to learn new skills. We also get into a great conversation about the importance of diversity and the challenges she faced as a female leader in tech. Recorded live on September 9, 2021. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Co...

Sep 10, 202143 minSeason 1Ep. 25

EP 24 - Josh Hill: Vendor Relations / Management and Negotiations

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode we talked with Josh Hill about his view and approach to vendor management. We talked about the distinction between managing software / technology vendors and consultants / agencies. Josh also shared his view on three models of how to build an ROI model to support a bringing on a new vendor. Recorded live on September 1, 2021. Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Support the show...

Sep 02, 202147 minSeason 1Ep. 24

EP 23 - The "Dark Side" of Marketing Ops with Darrell Alfonso

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode we talk with Darrell Alfonso about parts of the role that many Marketing Operations professionals don't like to talk about...but we all know are there. Things like, how it is tough to have a good marketing ops function when the messaging, branding or product is sub-par. And, we had a literal fire alarm happen during the recording. How appropriate for a Marketing Operations discussion. Recorded live on August 26, 2021. Episode Brou...

Aug 27, 202149 minSeason 1Ep. 23

EP 22 - How do we get new talent into Marketing Ops? With Toby Murdock

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode we talk with Toby Murdock from Highway Education about the gap in the market today for Marketing Ops talent. He is focused on providing training, education and opportunities to people who are early in their career and want to get into Marketing Operations. We talk about the gap, why there isn't a "traditional" educational model for Marketing Ops (hint: it's about incentives in the university system) and more. Recorded live August ...

Aug 20, 202148 minSeason 1Ep. 22
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