Episode description

0.00 Katherine spent 20 years of her life put together on the outside but broken on the inside as a people pleaser and overachiever who drew her self-esteem from external sources, and it nearly killed her. She finally got her act together by slaying her "dragon of self-doubt," and life on the other side is much better: she feels calm, she feels whole... and she is on a mission to help other women join her.

6:06 The Mom Complex is Katherine's consulting company, which focuses on helping large brands understand moms and develop the right products for their lives. Their work is groundbreaking, and their ongoing research over the last ten years reveals that the vast majority of women struggle with self-doubt.  Katherine shares their focus on uncovering the truth and cutting through the tendency of moms - and women in general - to insist that they are fine, their husbands are perfect and their lives are amazing.

9:25 How getting to a breaking point drove Katherine to take herself on as a project, and the two years she spent doing deep self work to understand herself, what made her happy, what made her upset, what made her exhausted and what made her energized.

13:12 Katherine has built a life and a career around studying and supporting mothers, and the Slay Like A Mother ecosystem is full of resources - many of them free and easily accessible - to tap into the keys to the kingdom that she has discovered. Katherine shares ways for listeners to take advantage of some of their learnings, as well as where to find lists of wins and lifehacks - or "slays" as she calls them - shared by others.

18:30 Discussing non-negotiables, wielding influence with integrity, finding balance and setting boundaries. Katherine says: "For me, more is a four letter word: always chasing more money, more employees, more book sales... it just puts me in a hamster wheel."

27:10 Identifying voice, brand and language: Slay Like A Mother has an aggressive tone and stance, and it's about slaying and killing and taking down something that is trying to kill you. I wanted it to be heroic, because this stuff is life-changing. 

32:00 Managing dual desires: how Katherine eschews the word more while maintaining ambition and growth, figures out what her "currency" is and sets achievable goals. "Make sure you're going after the more that actually fulfills you."

37:20 Being intentional and deliberate with time and friendships, and how Katherine has learned how to set boundaries for herself and give time to herself rather than giving it all away. 

40:45 What Katherine, Nate & Beth are consuming and so into right now... and the concept that ultimately sold the Slay Like A Mother book concept in to the publisher: 

Show Links & Resources:

• Slay Like A Mother by Katherine Wintsch
• More about Katherine and The Mom Complex
• Lists of tips, tricks, life hacks and "slays" to help moms & women thrive
• Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel Wilkerson ("The most enlightening book I've ever read," says Katherine)
• The Cru: circles of women matched to coach one another and accelerate their personal and professional growth
• Slay Like A Mother on Audible