Episode description

Piracy. Gunrunning. Human trafficking. The harvest of endangered animals. Vigilantes pursuing justice. All happening in a world most of us know nothing about: the open ocean. This week, I sat down with Ian Urbina for an episode unique in the ManTalks canon. It’s my belief that cultivating or embodying the healthy masculine (or feminine) has to involve both inner and outer work, and a big part of outer work is being aware of what’s happening in--or happening to--the world. Ian’s expertise, passion, and concern for this darker corner of human life was readily apparent to me. It was an honor to talk to him.

Ian Urbina, a former investigative reporter for the New York Times, is the director of The Outlaw Ocean Project, a non-profit journalism organization based in Washington, D.C., that focuses on reporting about environmental and human rights crimes at sea.

Listen in to hear about what it was like to chase one of INTERPOL’s most wanted ships, how “labor brokers” kidnap men (and boys) to work on ships, and how shame and pride perpetuate the dangers present on the high seas. Share your takeaways with me! Leave a rating or review, or hit me up on Insta @mantalks

Connect with Ian

Website: https://www.theoutlawocean.com

Facebook: @ianurbinareporter

Instagram: @ian_urbina

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Editing & Mixing by: Aaron The Tech

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