Trevor, Grammy Executive Producer Ben Winston, and Trevor’s good friend Sizwe Dhlomo take us deep behind the scenes of music’s biggest night. The trio discusses the decision to hold the event against the backdrop of the L.A. fires, how a series of unrelated missed calls made Ben think Trevor was dropping out, Beyonce’s at long last first album of the year win, and the unique challenges of putting on a live television event with so many music superstars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit po...
Feb 06, 2025•2 hr 14 min•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor is home in South Africa. He and his good friends Anele Mdoda and Sizwe Dhlomo have a spirited conversation about the big issues that worry them as we hurtle into 2025. They discuss whether the global experiment is failing, revolution as a form of positive societal connection, and how external forces shape us and our children. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jan 30, 2025•1 hr 24 min•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor and Christiana sit down with noted author and political scientist Robert Putnam. They discuss why community is now more essential than ever, both for the survival of democracy and for our very survival as a species. The three also debate whether social media diminishes our social capital, and why more people bowl in America than vote. (Hint: If more people bowled America would be more united). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jan 23, 2025•1 hr 12 min•Ep 21•Transcript available on Metacast Required drug taking? Assigned partnerships? Getting rid of politicians? Trevor, Christiana, and Josh are back with maybe their wildest “If I Ruled the World” yet. See which of their inspired ideas will get voted through, and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jan 16, 2025•56 min•Ep 20•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor and Christiana chat with YouTuber Marques Brownlee, professionally known as MKBHD and famous for his incredibly popular videos reviewing technology devices. The trio discusses how to survive and thrive in this era of nichification, fake outrage on the internet and its impact on creators, and whether AI is experiencing a PR nightmare or if in fact it will actually be able to kill us in our sleep. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jan 09, 2025•1 hr 14 min•Ep 19•Transcript available on Metacast Happy New Year! To get the year started off right, we’re re-publishing one of our favorite episodes from 2024. Trevor and Christiana chatted with Jia Tolentino in May of last year; 8 months later, and Ozempic is still a hot topic. Ozempic. It started with a lizard, and then transformed into a drug that, depending on who you ask, is either a miracle or the downfall of society. New Yorker writer and cultural critic Jia Tolentino joins Trevor and Christiana to give context on the media circus surro...
Jan 02, 2025•55 min•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor, Christiana, and author/inspirational speaker Simon Sinek delve into the paradox of why the smartest and most competent people at a company are often not its leaders. They also dissect whether office gossip is essential oral history or the literal tool of destruction of a company, and how (and why) Milton Friedman ruined value based capitalism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Dec 19, 2024•1 hr 21 min•Ep 18•Transcript available on Metacast In the wake of the killing of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO, the internet is awash with hot takes on health insurance and hot memes of everyone’s favorite assassin-bae. The facts may still be developing, but that’s not stopping Trevor, Christiana, and Josh from sharing their “sweeping judgements” on the matter. Is Luigi Mangione guilty? Not guilty? Hot guilty? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Dec 12, 2024•1 hr 12 min•Ep 17•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor and Christiana sit down with Chappelle's Show co-creator and former Daily Show colleague Neal Brennan. The three friends discuss the importance of familial dysfunction to a life of comedy, whether jokes about racism, sexism, transphobia, and the like help or hurt move the human race forward in today’s climate, and the rise and fall of anger as a way of life. Well, of Neal’s life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Dec 05, 2024•1 hr 20 min•Ep 16•Transcript available on Metacast On Thanksgiving week, we give thanks to our listeners with a bonus episode where Trevor, Christiana, and Josh weigh in on your suggestions for their favorite game, If I Ruled the World. Suffice it to say the trio doesn’t hold back. Enjoy, thank you for being a listener, and Happy Thanksgiving!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Nov 26, 2024•30 min•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor enlists the help of noted therapist Esther Perel to help design the perfect relationship model. They talk through all the phases–where to find someone, the perfect date, defining the relationship, weathering storms, sex, and even how to end things. Nothing’s off the table! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Nov 21, 2024•58 min•Ep 15•Transcript available on Metacast Malcolm Gladwell sits down with Trevor and Christiana to discuss his new book, and why values should be held tightly but ideas should be held loosely. The trio also delve into the importance of television in shaping culture, and into their respective African roots (yes, Malcolm has African roots). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Nov 14, 2024•58 min•Ep 14•Transcript available on Metacast Donald Trump will be president again. Trevor, Christiana, and Josh are joined once again by Tressie McMillan Cottom to puzzle through whether Trump won this election, or Harris lost it. Plus, they offer their picks for the best post-election playlist ever. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Nov 07, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Ep 13•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor and Christiana call on Tressie McMillan Cottom to help them make sense of the final week before the US presidential election. Together, they unpack Trump’s rally at Madison Square Garden, why certain groups are planning to vote against their own interests, and how Tucker Carlson’s web browser history may be impacting his politics. Fortunately we can all exhale next week. Or not. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Oct 31, 2024•1 hr 8 min•Ep 12•Transcript available on Metacast Lupita Nyong’o joins Trevor and Christiana to discuss her new podcast and its colorful stories of the African diaspora. The three also discuss their multifaceted identities, why Lupita refuses to expect rejection, and get into a debate for the ages–can they crown a “best” African country. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Oct 24, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Ep 11•Transcript available on Metacast With the release of Trevor’s new children’s book “Into the Uncut Grass”, Trevor sits down with some actual kids, plus Christiana and Josh, to discuss what being a kid is like from their perspective, what adults often get wrong about being a child, and whether it really takes a village to raise them right. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Oct 17, 2024•58 min•Ep 10•Transcript available on Metacast Bestselling author Ta-Nehisi Coates joins Trevor and Christiana to discuss his new book about how the stories we tell, and the ones we don’t, shape our realities. They also unpack the jaw-dropping CBS interview that followed the book’s release, and our elusive search as a people to see the humanity in others. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Oct 10, 2024•1 hr 14 min•Ep 9•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor and Christiana speak with Yuval Noah Harari, whose latest book, Nexus, asks, if humans are so smart, why do we do so many stupid things? The three of them interrogate truth vs. fact, the threats and promises of AI, and how these questions connect to global issues like the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Oct 03, 2024•1 hr 29 min•Ep 8•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor enlists the help of journalist and author Michael Pollan (This is Your Mind on Plants, Omnivore’s Dilemma) as they try to convince Christiana of the positive impacts of therapeutic psychedelics and their current standing in society. Do they succeed? You be the judge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Sep 26, 2024•1 hr 3 min•Ep 7•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor and Christiana are joined by travel journalist Rajan Datar to tackle the perennial summer question around the world: what’s with all these tourists, anyway? Governments, water gun-toting Spaniards, and 10,000 Elsas weigh in. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Sep 19, 2024•54 min•Ep 6•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor, Christiana, Josh, and NY Times columnist (and friend of the show) Tressie McMillan Cottom break down last night’s presidential debate. Together they unpack whether Trump still has his finger on the pulse or has lost his touch, Christiana explains the real reason Trump was befuddled by Kamala, and the group ponders where we go from here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Sep 12, 2024•1 hr 3 min•Ep 5•Transcript available on Metacast Elon Musk is officially beefing with the Brazilian government and of course Trevor, Christiana, and Josh have lots to say about it. In the wake of the X ban, they discuss how Elon’s past circumstances color his world view, the phenomena of powerful white men who feel powerless, and whether Elon deserves, dare they say it, some empathy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Sep 05, 2024•59 min•Ep 4•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor, Christiana, and noted writer and journalist Anne Helen Petersen discuss the growing #tradwife trend, the ideological conviction that a woman’s sole and highest purpose is to be her spouse’s modest, subservient helpmate, and that anything less is ungodly. Why do more women now seem to be taking on this mantle? Are cleaning, cooking, and total submission truly the path to godliness, or have we fallen so far off the societal cliff that women are simply exhausted? Learn more about your ad ch...
Aug 29, 2024•1 hr 2 min•Ep 3•Transcript available on Metacast The gang’s back with another If I Ruled the World. Christiana’s advocating for subsidized (and mandatory) world travel, Trevor’s looking to nix required friendliness, and Josh thinks the world should be a little more petty. Everyone’s in top form. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Aug 22, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Ep 1•Transcript available on Metacast What do you do when your values are tested? Trevor and organizational psychologist Adam Grant discuss this very timely question, as well the importance of discourse in reducing prejudice, the science of keeping an open mind, and whether Trevor might have missed his true calling. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Aug 15, 2024•58 min•Ep 1•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor, Christiana, and Josh talk all things Olympics: the wins, the viral moments, what in the world is 3 on 3 basketball, and how Trevor is in Paris but decided not to attend in person. One thing they can all agree on: this episode, per the GOAT Simone Biles, they aren’t asking “What Now”? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Aug 08, 2024•59 min•Ep 40•Transcript available on Metacast When it comes to disinformation, our first instinct is often to ask is this real or fake? But disinformation expert Jiore Craig says that way of thinking misses a much bigger problem. Trevor, Christiana, and Jiore examine how political powers and corporations use information channels to push their agendas, and how we can start pushing back on the systems enabling lies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Aug 01, 2024•59 min•Ep 39•Transcript available on Metacast Sociologist and NYT columnist Tressie McMillan Cottom joins Trevor, Christiana, and Josh as they unpack Biden dropping out, Kamala’s nomination, and where we’re at in this ever evolving (some might say devolving) political landscape. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jul 25, 2024•54 min•Ep 38•Transcript available on Metacast Trevor and Christiana are joined by Jody Avirgan, one of What Now?’s Executive Producers. In the wake of the July 13th assassination attempt on Donald Trump, they discuss people’s fascination with how the event “moves the plot forward,” the impact of the media’s need to feed the 24-hour news cycle with “developing story” updates (both accurate and inaccurate), and whether the greater issue at stake is actually America’s self-image and a failure to learn from historic moments. Learn more about yo...
Jul 18, 2024•51 min•Ep 37•Transcript available on Metacast DJ, drummer, author, and Roots frontman Ahmir “Questlove” Thompson and Trevor discuss “50 Years of Hip Hop” at the Grammys and his book Hip Hop is History. Questlove also divulges to Trevor the names of all 432 people who get his weekly playlist (no he doesn’t) and reveals all the celebrities who come to his legendary game nights (he doesn’t reveal that either but it’s still a fantastic conversation). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jul 11, 2024•1 hr 4 min•Ep 36•Transcript available on Metacast 
