Shoutout to Grace's dad for letting her use his phone to record this podcast, and we especially appreciate the restraint he showed in only coming silently into the room to indicate he wanted it back once. If he really wanted his phone back then he shouldn't have been such a loving and generous father during her childhood because now she thinks she can walk all over him (she did not give the phone back). We just want to be upfront and say this episode is primarily recap and less analysis. We ende...
Nov 23, 2022•1 hr 18 min•Season 10Ep. 15
We have possibly never had as many technical difficulties while recording an episode as we did during this one. Internet went out and disconnected our FaceTime call at least 900 times, so if some of our discussion seems disjointed that's why! It was especially frustrating that the internet decided to do this during our discussion of this episode specifically because this was an especially crazy one!! If there was ever any doubt about whether people are complex creatures, and life is made up of s...
Nov 21, 2022•1 hr 51 min•Season 10Ep. 14
What is worse: being a human taco, human burrito, or human churro? If you're not sure what exactly that means, don't worry. We discuss it at great, great length in this episode of the podcast. It is one of very few issues where Liv and Grace are on very different sides of the argument. Other prime examples of issues where they are split are the attractiveness of 6th movie Ron Weasley, Mr. Tumnus, and how to go about cutting a lemon. Pretty much nothing good happened this episode, so if you enjoy...
Nov 19, 2022•1 hr 37 min•Season 10Ep. 13
Honestly, it was nice to have a bit of a lull and only have one episode of BIP this week. Don't get us wrong, we love the content, but it can be a lot to keep up with! As is always the case, when we predict that we'll have a short episode cause there's not much to discuss, we end up with one of our longest episodes yet. Remember that there's not two of them so it's still worth tuning in! We discussed how much Kate hates Logan, Danielle and Michael's boring date, and of course the whole Eliza sit...
Nov 15, 2022•1 hr 38 min•Season 10Ep. 12
Welcome to our podcast about Grace's relationship with Liv's Grandma, our thoughts on prenups, and if we would spend $100,000 on a dog. Oh wait, did you come here to hear about Bachelor in Paradise? We're pretty sure we also talked about that... Just kidding, of course we talked about it! You're gonna hand us Hayden saying crazy stuff on a silver platter and not expect us to do a deep dive into that one? You're gonna have us watch not one, but two, absolutely wild Aaron and Genevive fights and n...
Nov 08, 2022•1 hr 27 min•Season 10Ep. 11
This episode was sort of two-fold. It started with probably the shortest and least dramatic cocktail party ever, an incredibly predictable rose ceremony, and then a date between two people that we know like each other. The unexpected bit came with Justin's dramatic reappearance, and trust us, we have THOUGHTS on that. Anything nice we ever said about Justin, please strike that from the record. Please tune in to us complaining about him for 30 minutes straight, and to hear Liv's imitation of the ...
Nov 07, 2022•1 hr 13 min•Season 10Ep. 10
Content Warning: We spent soooo much of this episode kind of defending Shanae? Look we don't like it either. We just also don't like Logan or Kate. There were very few bright lights in this episode because Brandon and Serene are too cute for production to care about them, and screen time was instead given to infuriating situations. Also don't get your hopes up for a rose ceremony, we have to wait yet another episode for that. Anyways, check out the trying times on instagram and thanks for listen...
Nov 01, 2022•1 hr 39 min•Season 10Ep. 9
Lots of people were just in a silly goofy mood this week, while also somehow being some of the most depressed people we've ever seen on the show? We're loving the new development where the girls just boo Jesse Palmer every time he walks into a room. That is also how we feel we would react in the moment. We also finally had some real life Bachelor Nation stuff to discuss, and it feels like it's been forever since that's been the case! We would say this recap episode has all the classic things you...
Oct 29, 2022•1 hr 21 min•Season 10Ep. 8
This episode was a tricky one to recap, because the producers just kept cutting back and forth between the fruits of their labor (women crying in a hotel and men flirting it up on the beach). There were a few meaty things to talk about, namely what Logan and Shanae were up to and what's going to happen with Lace and Rodney, but ultimately it was a pretty predictable episode. It mostly felt like episode 1 of this week was setting up the dominos, and episode 2 was knocking them down. We are lookin...
Oct 23, 2022•1 hr 23 min•Season 10Ep. 7
Ewwww! Tomato tomato tomato!!! That's what we have to say to the producers after they kicked up the literal psychological torture of the contestants this week. We'd like to give a special shout out and thank you to Jill for providing us with our new favorite retort. It's exactly what you need when replying to idiots who are so dead set on being an idiot they are never going to listen to anything but the sound of their own voice. When a person's goal is to offend or hurt you to raise themselves u...
Oct 22, 2022•1 hr 32 min•Season 10Ep. 6
So last week the first episode of the week was absolutely wild, and the second one was pretty boring in comparison. This week they really flipped that narrative. Monday's episode was decent, but without too much to really dig our teeth into, Tuesday's episode however.... We got to dive into Salley's treatment by production, Pizza Pete's terrible personality, Britney's ability to continue to swerve annoying men, somehow STILL Ashley and Jared, and of course Kira's hail mary move with Romeo. There...
Oct 17, 2022•1 hr 22 min•Season 10Ep. 5
This week Liv and Grace break down several pressing questions. Is Ashley and Jared's presence annoying? Did Sierra come on to strong? Would you rather get in a fight with Justin or Logan? We know those have been keeping you up at night and so we have answers for you! The answers are primarily that being a human is complicated and there's no right way to exist in social situations. That being said there are a lot of wrong ways, and we plan on pointing them out. Thanks for following along with our...
Oct 16, 2022•1 hr 11 min•Season 10Ep. 4
Wow what a crazy time jump between recording our last episode and this one! Did we record them both in the same evening because that made sense for our schedules? Yes. However, you cannot blame corporate greed and trying to make as many episodes as possible to generate more ad sponsorships because we make zero dollars from this podcast. So there! We finally get our first rose ceremony of the season in this episode, Ashley I and Jared show their silly little faces for the millionth time, and Rodn...
Oct 08, 2022•46 min•Season 10Ep. 3
This one of the craziest episodes of television we can remember seeing in a long time. Obvious bullying by producers, terrible acting by Wells, and already so much crying!!! Us trying to keep our debrief brief (if you will) still ended up being an hour and a half! Don't worry, our week 2 recap is on the way and isn't nearly so long.
Oct 06, 2022•1 hr 25 min•Season 10Ep. 2
It's not 🎶 almost paradise🎶, IT IS PARADISE!!!! Boy howdy have we missed the beach. This episode had everything you could ever ask for: Wells, margaritas, someone faking their birthday, and a boy who made his own life a mess pre-paradise by getting too cocky. It also had things we didn't ask for: a disgusting looking hot tub, Johnny rapping, and a man's full penis. And this is just the first episode! Consider us buckled up because we are along for the ride, and we are so excited to take you wi...
Sep 29, 2022•1 hr 20 min•Season 10Ep. 1
Alright you guys, you got us. We did an absolutely shit job recapping this season, by which we mean we did not do it at all. In our defenses they don't get the Bachelorette in Europe, which is where Grace was for most of the season, and Liv is also very busy and hot and cool doing her own stuff. We promise to do better for Bachelor In Paradise. We mostly feel confident in that promise because BIP is actually fun, unlike the joyless, time suck that was this season. In this episode we discuss all ...
Sep 23, 2022•1 hr 28 min•Season 9Ep. 4
WE HAVE TEA. Hi everyone, guess what, this recording is LATE because Grace decided to be a jerk and go on a vacation and also Liv is now editing the episodes so please feel free to direct all complaints to her, but keep in mind that she currently has 335 unread text messages. This episode was a wild ride, from literally no one (including the producers) being prepared to run this season, to a man absolutely not following forklift PROCEDURE, to an extremely embarrassing and brutal elimination, thi...
Jul 20, 2022•1 hr 32 min•Season 9Ep. 4
Hey hey hey - it's time for our favorite part of the pre-season! Making snap judgements about the people we are about to watch on TV for the next 10 weeks based on nothing but approximately 3 facts about them and how we feel about their face. And of course we couldn't do it without the expert insight of Mason Lok. He brings to the table absolutely no knowledge of the bachelor franchise (he didn't even know who Rachel and Gabby were) and a thrilling level of chaotic neutral to balance out Grace's...
Jun 20, 2022•1 hr 33 min•Season 9Ep. 2
We're baaaaaack!!! Our sincere apologies for the long LONG hiatus, we knew we were going to have to take a break when Grace got jaw surgery, but no one could have predicted the shit show that followed. As the hardware has finally been mostly removed from her mouth, and she has been given the go ahead to speak without clenching her teeth together, we were finally able to get recording again. However, so many big things have happened in the world of the bachelor franchise since we last recorded th...
Jun 14, 2022•43 min•Season 9Ep. 1
You're telling us we've been doing this podcast for two years??? Is this a joke?? We have now recapped 7 full seasons of this show (6 if you don't count Listen to Your Heart, which maybe we shouldn't...) and done plenty of fun stuff during the off seasons. The second year of Wrong Reasons brought us Bachelor Bookclub and The Question Game (feat. Mason Lok) - two of our absolute favorite types of episodes. We have had so much fun continuing to get creative and weird with this podcast, and have pl...
Apr 16, 2022•41 min•Season 8Ep. 11
We are literally so proud of ourselves for keeping this episode under two hours. Who knows why we thought it would be a good idea to recap these two episodes in just one evening, but in our defense we did not think it would literally be the most dramatic finale in bachelor history. They tell us that every year, we had no reason to actually think it was true! This finale was full of twists and turns, we gasped out loud, we shouted at the screen, we flipped on Clayton multiple times, it was a real...
Mar 17, 2022•1 hr 58 min•Season 8Ep. 10
We thought about doing two episodes, but let's be real - the Women Tell All didn't need a whole hour long discussion. It was almost entirely yelling about arguments we've already seen play out with no new developments. It did however, bring us the joy of remembering Claire from night one who claimed she hated Clayton so just took full advantage of the open bar instead. She is the only one who has been bringing the correct energy to this season from the start. Then we moved on to our discussion o...
Mar 11, 2022•1 hr 43 min•Season 8Ep. 9
Has there ever been a more boring, less confrontational hometowns episode? Probably not. I mean I know we're always saying we hate unnecessary drama, but jesus they gotta give us SOMETHING. We have never seen the parents be so throughly unfussed with this whole bachelor situation, though to be fair it did mostly seem to be because they were coming at it from the position of "she's in charge of what makes her happy and we trust her to make good decisions" about their daughters, which we do apprec...
Mar 03, 2022•1 hr 19 min•Season 8Ep. 8
Guys, Clayton suuuucks!!!! Literally he was so annoying this episode and also so was almost everyone else except Sarah. Frankly we are #teamsarah and if you think differently we would love to hear your reasoning. This episode was redeeming for almost no one, and included a very inappropriate and uncomfortable therapy date that crossed yet another new boundary for the bachelor franchise (in a bad way if that wasn't clear). Lucky for you guys we spent like 20 minutes at the top of the episode blab...
Feb 24, 2022•1 hr 27 min•Season 8Ep. 7
This is now a Marry Me staring Jennifer Lopez and Owen Wilson podcast. Honestly this movie probably took up about 15% of our discussion, but trust us, you're gonna want to hear Anders' thoughts. Oh yeah - Anders is back! We were so happy he was able to join us for this episode to discuss the insanely blatant producer handling of both Clayton and the contestants. If there was ever a week when the producers might have been regretting choosing a literal lump of clay as the Bachelor, it was probably...
Feb 17, 2022•1 hr 31 min•Season 8Ep. 6
5 weeks in and we can't stop calling Clayton "Colton." We're never going to get it!! This season just keeps getting wilder and wilder, and shows no sign of slowing down any time soon! We had to kind of power through this episode because Liv had another commitment she needed to get to (she literally made it with one minute to spare), so this episode was a bit more rushed that we like ours to be. However, hopefully you still felt like you were treated to our usual gold standard information/comedy ...
Feb 09, 2022•1 hr 14 min•Season 8Ep. 5
Guys, we don't know what to tell you. We were feeling mean today. Lucky for you that also means that we had a lot of hilarious observations for you to hopefully enjoy and not judge us too harshly on. This season is getting messier by the second, and we are along for the ride whether we like it or not. Please enjoy this recap, remember to rate and review us, and finally, dear audience, please know that we would never dim your spark. <3
Feb 02, 2022•1 hr 35 min•Season 8Ep. 4
It has felt like literal years since we've recorded an episode, but apparently it has only been two weeks. Clayton continues to bring all the flavor and intrigue of a 4 year old stale graham cracker, but at least we had shrimp-gate to keep us engaged this episode. There's really not much to say about Clayton's relationship with any of these women, so we will simply have to count on their relationships with each other to bring the entertainment.
Jan 26, 2022•1 hr 26 min•Season 8Ep. 3
If you thought Clayton was a snoozefest before... He somehow managed to lose any whisper of a personality he might have had between last week and this week. Luckily there are some interesting women on this season by which we mean Cassidy (terrible person, great TV), Elizabeth (seems like a good person, enduring emotional trauma with incredible grace on TV), and Ziwe (she's not a contestant, she was just the only other interesting person in this episode). Whoever underutilized Hilary Duff this ep...
Jan 12, 2022•1 hr 15 min•Season 8Ep. 2
This week we welcomed Grace's cousin Timothy to help us kick of Colton- we mean Clayton's season! Is Clayton boring? Yes. Is this group of women absolutely wild? Also yes. Are we going to be able to tell Clayton and Jesse apart? Definitely not. Night one is always tough because there's so many names to remember and very few story arcs, that being said multiple crazy things still went down and we can't wait to talk about them with you!
Jan 06, 2022•1 hr 25 min•Season 8Ep. 1
