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Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace

Olivia Mangione and Grace Hellerpodcasters.spotify.com
Two high quality gals (Grace Heller and Olivia Mangione) discussing low quality TV and anything else that comes to mind.
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The Question Game (with special guest Mason)

First of all, so sorry if the audio is a little weird in the beginning - having three people all on zoom trying to hear each other and sync their recordings can be a bit challenging sometimes. Welcome back to the question game, with one of our absolutely favorite people to have on the pod: Mason! Please enjoy us haphazardly answering questions based on the bios of all the women lining up to win Clayton's heart. We did varying levels of prep (from most to least: Grace, Mason, Liv), but we also ha...

Jan 04, 20221 hr 29 minSeason 7Ep. 11

FINALE - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

We are feeling very bittersweet and satisfied by the ending of Michelle's season. We are so happy for her and Nayte, but so sad that she will no longer be gracing our TV screens every week. She has been a phenomenal bachelorette and deserves every happiness, and it seems like her and Nayte have found that!!! This was a great episode of television to finish off a season that has essentially been utter perfection. I'd make some depreciating joke about not looking forward to Clayton's season, but I...

Dec 24, 20211 hr 36 minSeason 7Ep. 10

Fantasy Suites - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

We welcomed back BFF of the pod, Anders, for this fantasy suites recap! Things are really heating up and emotions are running high (our emotions that is). Brandon seems to be going off the rails a little bit with how obsessed with Michelle he is, Nayte has apparently zero questions or things he wants to discuss despite the proposal happening next week, and Joe.... Sweet, sweet, Minnesota Joe... Anyways, everything else that happens on this season is bound to shock and surprise us no matter what,...

Dec 21, 20211 hr 14 minSeason 7Ep. 9

Men Tell All - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

Once again we are wishing this episode was called "Men Tell None" but you can't always get what you want, can you? The terrible men continued to be terrible, and the non terrible men barely spoke at all - the worst kind of TV. Very sorry to Michelle, Kaitlin and Tayshia for having to sit in the same room with some of this absolute a-holes. They deserve better. Here's hoping we never see some of these guys again, and that Olu blesses our screen this summer in paradise.

Dec 12, 20211 hr 14 minSeason 7Ep. 8

Hometowns - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

Rodney was ROBBED. Not of Michelle's heart, but of the position of Bachelor and worst of all of his brand!!!! ABC we are absolutely furious with you on behalf of the angel that is Rodney - you do not deserve him! That being said this was an absolutely lovely hometowns episode, not a thing to complain about the whole way through basically. Grace would like to eat her words - she has no problem admitting she was wrong and the Bachelorette is much better than the Bachelor. Not looking forward to IM...

Dec 05, 20211 hr 18 minSeason 7Ep. 7

Week 6 - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

Wow Grace cannot WAIT to talk about Martin's behavior this week with her therapist. Other that that steaming pile of garbage masquerading as a human, we have got to give it up for Michelle's final 6! Not a bad guy in the bunch! This week we were primarily just charmed. And we are prepared to remain charmed as we head into hometowns which is somehow next week??

Dec 01, 20211 hr 30 minSeason 7Ep. 6

Week 5 - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

Would you believe that we were genuinely trying our best to make this a reasonable length? However we had multiple life kurfluffles that caused delays in our recording, and then approximately 9,000 major things happened in bachelor nation! We had to cover so much juicy content before we were even able to start digging into this juicy episode! The remaining men on this season are almost all stellar, and we just know that multiple hearts are going to get broken, which is a bummer. Wishing all the ...

Nov 22, 20211 hr 49 minSeason 7Ep. 5

Week 4 - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

First and foremost Grace would like to apologize for how sicky she sounds. She really didn't think it was that bad until she was editing and heard her 1 million sniffles. We do still recommend listening despite her snotty voice, as this was yet another stellar episode of the bachelorette. We have a lot of thoughts about the men of this season, a lot of fashion critiques, a lot of slightly bitchy analogies, and plenty of positive thoughts as well. As has been the case with every episode so far th...

Nov 12, 20211 hr 16 minSeason 7Ep. 4

Week 3 - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

Michelle continues to reign supreme as the greatest lead of all time who could ever exist. We are nearly as smitten with her as this cast of men, possibly even more so. If we're being perfectly honest we talked for at least 30 minutes before even getting to what happened on the show this episode, so we kind of sped through some things - but we hit all the important parts. At this point in the season the main point of contention between Liv and Grace is how sexy is Rodney? Is he friendzone materi...

Nov 08, 20211 hr 34 minSeason 7Ep. 3

Week 2 - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

You guys Michelle is so good at her job!!! Both as a teacher and as the bachelorette!!! She handled every situation in this episode like a champ, and what a good episode it was! It had the perfect amount of drama in all the right ways, 2 group dates, a one-on-one, a cocktail party, and a rose ceremony. We really can't say enough good things (which is why the episode is long again lol whoops). We also talked about all the drama happening in bachelor nation right now and Grace embarrassing herself...

Oct 29, 20211 hr 34 minSeason 7Ep. 2

Week 1 - The Bachelorette (Michelle)

It's finally time!!! Michelle's season is here and we could not be more excited! She truly just lights up the screen and we are so excited for her to find the love of her life. Unfortunately this is the group of men that she has to choose from, but there could be a winner or two in there, you never know. This week we were joined by Carly Lant to discuss how much we all respect teachers and whether or not Nayte is actually 6'8.

Oct 26, 20211 hr 27 minSeason 7Ep. 1

FINALE - BIP (2021)

This season they really went with a go big (get engaged) or go home vibe. This week we welcomed back Anders to discuss the finale episode and the season as a whole. There were three whole engagement and we are very happy for all the couples! We are not sure how many of them will actually make it to the alter, but that's okay! Usually the end of paradise is a little sad because it's just so much fun to watch, but this year we are simply chomping at the bit for Michelle's season to start! We will ...

Oct 11, 20211 hr 32 minSeason 6Ep. 5

Week 7 - BIP (2021)

List of things that didn't need to be 3 hours long: Any movie ever This episode of Bachelor in Paradise. As we wind down this season we have in our thoughts the poor souls who producers decided to torture by sending them down to the beach with date cards when people are supposed to be getting engaged in like 3 days. Honestly we can only see one, maaaaaybe two engagements coming out of this season, and very few other couples agreeing to leave the beach together. Even with all the drama this episo...

Oct 04, 20211 hr 30 minSeason 6Ep. 8

Week 6 - BIP (2021)

This week felt a little drawn out. Mostly it was some catch up and resolution on some of our more solid, long time couples, with a bit of new couple drama thrown in. We are getting to the end of paradise here so it is frankly getting a little tiresome to watch people fight over individuals who you know they aren't going to end up dating outside of paradise. The fun part about this show is you usually get at least 2 couples who make it a fairly long time afterwards, and we want to see who they ar...

Sep 25, 20211 hr 24 minSeason 6Ep. 7

Week 5 - BIP (2021)

If this whole episode was just Aaron and his "big facts" we would not have had any complaints. However it had Brendan being a dickwad and some toe sucking so we do in fact have complaints. We hoped this would be the last episode where we had to discuss dickwad Brendan, but alas that seems like it will not be the case. Keep tuning in to hear the rest of our thoughts on Paradise, because after this week we only have two episodes left!!!!

Sep 17, 20211 hr 35 minSeason 6Ep. 8

Week 4, Part 2 - BIP (2021)

So the drama did in fact continue on Tuesday this week, but we only got resolution to 1 out of the 3 crazy storylines from Monday! The rest was just new drama! And the preview for next week looks even crazier than this week!! We're not sure how much more we can handle!!!! It was almost enough good TV to make Grace forget we have now gone a full week without a rose ceremony. almost... (she's still pissed).

Sep 09, 20211 hr 8 minSeason 6Ep. 7

Week 4, Part 1 - BIP (2021)

The theme of this episode was "lie better"!!! If you are going to insult us and Natasha with your shoddy plans that no one seems to be on the same page about, you could at least have the decency to come up with better lies about it?? But alas we have learned that sweet, innocent seeming Brendan is actually the fuckiest of boys who lacks even a shred of empathy. Oh how the mighty have fallen (to see exactly how far check out @bachelordata ). This was another wild episode, and we are in for anothe...

Sep 08, 20211 hr 41 minSeason 6Ep. 6

Week 3, Part 2 - BIP (2021)

What an episode! It is absolutely insane how no one knows how to talk to each other. For the second episode in a row every relationship is falling apart. However, Becca K and Kendall are both even hotter than we remembered so that's neat. We continue to be tired of Demi.

Sep 06, 20211 hr 1 minSeason 6Ep. 5

Week 3, Part 1 - BIP (2021)

Oh my god you guys, sorry for such a long episode, but this week was bananas! Also we were both super tired so it is possible that our train of thought kept wandering, but mostly there was so much to cover! People getting together, break-ups and almost no make-ups. Honestly Mari throwing a cake in a fire is one of the less dramatic things that happened if you ask us. And frankly we found that irritating - much like Tre and Riley we thought it seemed like a waste of cake.

Sep 03, 20211 hr 31 minSeason 6Ep. 3

Week 2, Part 2 - BIP (2021)

The theme of this episode was apparently sex appeal. Thomas and Riley both entered the beach looking sexy as hell. Thomas once again proved he has a 0/10 personality and is not long for paradise, but Riley once again out did himself with being a fucking amazing person. Could we handle all that sincerity and eye contact in a relationship? Absolutely not. But we are delighted for anyone who can. However, despite all the sexiness on the beach this week it was still easy to pick out the best couple:...

Aug 27, 20211 hr 9 minSeason 6Ep. 3

Week 2, Part 1 - BIP (2021)

Paradise is in full swing now babes, with two episodes a week! How are we to keep up? Don't worry, we'll spare you from having to watch 4 full hours of tv per week if you instead just listen to 2 full hours of our podcast per week instead! (We're only getting slightly better at keeping it concise). This week the ones who stood out were those who don't know how to play the game (looking at you Brendan and Kelsey). Tammy seems to be taking over as the new queen of paradise and we are certainly not...

Aug 26, 20211 hr 6 minSeason 6Ep. 2

Week 1 - BIP (2021)

Paradise is back and better than ever babyyyyy!!! This week was just episode one and it already proved why BIP is everyone's favorite part of the franchise! We were excited to welcome back old favorites and to see old least favorites get ignored by a beach full of hot people. We can't wait to see what's next and watch a full 4 hours of bachelor content every week. Also I am not sure what producer figured out or made the Tahzjuan/Tre's Uncle thing happen - but they deserve to make more money than...

Aug 18, 20211 hr 23 minSeason 6Ep. 1

FINALE - The Bachelorette (Katie)

MESSY MESS MESS are the eloquent words we would choose to describe this episode. But it's over y'all, we made it through another season, and we did it together which is the important part. This episode did not need to be three hours, but we had a lot to say on the things that happened in it so this is still a long recap, sorry that's our bad. Overall this was a very watchable season until the very end, when it became, as we said, a MESSY MESS MESS. But hey, now that that's over we can get back t...

Aug 12, 20211 hr 44 minSeason 5Ep. 10

Hometowns - The Bachelorette (Katie)

40 minutes of fun, an hour and 20 minutes of a big time bummer. This could describe either this episode of the Bachelorette or this episode of our podcast. Sorry it's so long this week, we blame Gaslight Gatekeep Greg.

Aug 05, 20212 hr 3 minSeason 5Ep. 9

Week 8 - The Bachelorette (Katie)

WE WERE TRICKED. This was not hometowns, this was bamboozlement! We only got 20 minutes of Michael A. and then had to watch a whole hour and 40 minutes of Men Tell All (well it would have been an hour and 40 minutes except our wifi kept going out for long chunks of time so it was really more of a whoosie-whatsits of time). Highlights include the sweet angel baby that is Michael, Andrews extraordinary masterclass in how to be the Bachelor, and Tayshia and Kaitlyn lookin smoking hot as always. Low...

Jul 29, 20211 hr 10 minSeason 5Ep. 8

Week 7 - The Bachelorette (Katie)

Hometowns are next week??? Somehow hometowns always sneak up on us! But you know what they mean - lots of men telling a girl how much their moms will love her. They can't all love her, that's not how it works. One or more of them have to be lying. This episode was fine, but was honestly mostly a vessel to get us through to our FINAL FOUR BABYYY! Lucky for you guys our recaps are always 🔥 🔥 🔥 regardless of the quality of the episode so you are in for another treat with this one. Don't forget t...

Jul 23, 20211 hr 21 minSeason 5Ep. 7

Week 6 - The Bachelorette (Katie)

This week was about honesty and sacrifice ... For us, not for the contestants. For the contestants this week was about complaining about not getting to jerk off and making fun of Hunter for being short and liking The Bachelor. Not a cute look you guys. Also we'd like to lodge a formal complaint with whoever creates the day of promos for this franchise. Telling us this week would have FIVE SURPRISE EXITS was a BLATANT LIE and we got excited for no reason! This is like when they made us think the ...

Jul 15, 20211 hr 22 minSeason 5Ep. 6

Week 5 - The Bachelorette (Katie)

In an embarrassing turn of events we are very much enjoying ourselves this season. Blake is meh, Greg is meh, Connor is meh, but Michael is amazing and so are Andrew and Justin. Does LITERALLY ANYONE in charge here understand the definition of sex positivity, I feel like we have to ask this every week. That being said, stoked for the rest of the season, everyone seems like they sob at least once. @wrongreasons_podcast

Jul 07, 20211 hr 33 minSeason 5Ep. 5

Week 4 - The Bachelorette (Katie)

Seattle is in the middle of a heat wave and we are tired and sweaty!! But that didn’t stop us from watching this episode from the safety of a dark room with AC. Compared to last week, this episode felt like kind of slow going, especially with a group date that they completely copy/pasted from Tayshia’s season. However the rose ceremony was truly shocking and we finally got to see see the long awaited arrival of Blake! Now the true question is Blake: hotter or notter from the last time we saw him...

Jun 30, 20211 hr 16 minSeason 5Ep. 4

Week 3 - The Bachelorette (Katie)

Sorry this is a long one folks, we have a lot to say - mostly about the Bachelorette! This week was full of must-consume media with Rachel Lindsay's New York Magazine article and this episode. Rachel's article reminded us that we need to be conscious consumers of what storylines we are being fed by the Bachelor producers, and we are going to work on doing our best to provide wholistic recaps to try and see through what is simply being presented to us. That being said we love Michael and f*ck you...

Jun 23, 20211 hr 34 minSeason 5Ep. 3
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