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Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace

Olivia Mangione and Grace Hellerpodcasters.spotify.com
Two high quality gals (Grace Heller and Olivia Mangione) discussing low quality TV and anything else that comes to mind.
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Week 2 - The Bachelorette (Katie)

This week we are obsessed with Justin, Andrew S., and in a shocking turn of events... Aaron? We have maintained our medium stance on Greg, and Cody and Karl give us the heebie jeebies. Honestly gotta give it up, this was a mostly fun episode to watch and many of the men made surprisingly reasonable decisions. Is this potentially the most watchable season of the Bachelorette since who even knows when? Only time will tell! If you wanna be nice pleeeeeease rate and review us on Apple Podcasts we wi...

Jun 17, 20211 hr 29 minSeason 5Ep. 2

Week 1 - The Bachelorette (Katie)

We were told that "Marty brings the party" but instead Marty just brought a bag of rocks.... Happy Bachelorette season premiere to all who celebrate! And to those who don't, thanks for tuning in anyways. We were pleasantly surprised for the most part about how well this episode went, and about how few of these men we genuinely hated. Maybe we're just turning into happier, more understanding people, or maybe it's maybelline. We're looking forward to the rest of this season and hope you'll follow ...

Jun 10, 20211 hr 36 minSeason 5Ep. 1

The Question Game with Liv (Grace is also there) (and Mason)

We know we've talked a lot about a person named Mason on past episodes, this is not that same Mason! (We talk about Liv's boyfriend Mason Carter pretty frequently, but this is Mason Lok, our friend from college™). Katie's reign as Bachelorette is about to begin and we'll be back to our regularly scheduled content, but we wanted to squeeze in one more off season episode before then. This week we get to know the men of the upcoming season a little better with Liv's favorite game! We know we covere...

Jun 05, 20211 hr 16 minSeason 4Ep. 6

Bachelor Book Club - Diamonds + Hearts

For this episode we were delighted to welcome Jay and Jasmine (who host their own pod titled A Working Woman and Her Dumb Friend - check it out)! This poetic memoir from Chris Siegfriend (with a little help from Desiree Hartsock) would have been truly incredible satire, if it was in fact satire. Unfortunately the author seems to be taking himself incredibly seriously, meaning that instead of being funny this book is just truly baffling. But, if you've ever thought "hey, I love minor league baseb...

May 30, 20211 hr 5 minSeason 4Ep. 5

Bachelor Book Club - I Didn't Come Here to Make Friends

Welcome to Bachelor Book Club, where we read almost exclusively terrible books by members of the bachelor franchise. This week we discussed possibly the only not terrible book in this genre, and that's only depending on how you look at it. I Didn't Come Here to Make Friends: Confessions of a Reality Show Villain by Courtney Robertson is a hilarious, shocking and wild read - and if you don't want to take our word for it just ask Anders! We were so happy to have literary and Bachelor scholar, Ande...

Apr 27, 20211 hr 55 minSeason 4Ep. 4

IT'S OUR ANNIVERSARY (happy 1 year to us!!)

It's our freaking one year anniversary, can you believe that?? When we sat down with Max, a broken leg, and the start of a global pandemic last April we had no idea what we were doing or what to expect. Now we only kind of have an idea of what we're doing, but doing this podcast for the past year has been an absolute blast. We are so grateful to everyone and anyone who listens to the nonsense we've been spewing and we intend to keep doing it! For this episode we just wanted to have a good time a...

Apr 16, 202130 minSeason 4Ep. 3

Bachelor Book Club - A Perfect Letter

Welcome to Bachelor Book Club, where we read almost exclusively terrible books by members of the bachelor franchise. To start us off we obviously had to go with A Perfect Letter by stupid Chris Harrison. Before you get any ideas, this episode is IN NO WAY an endorsement of this book or Chris Harrison. This was an awful book, please don't waste your time reading it. Really. Don't. That being said we still had a blast discussing it because we were joined by the lovely Claire Jones (expert on both ...

Apr 10, 20211 hr 50 minSeason 4Ep. 2

Katie's Mens with Emma and Neco!

Welcome to the off season, where we scramble to fill our time and the hole in our lives left by the absence of Bachelor Mondays. This week we welcomed Emma and Neco to go over the men who will be joining Katie's season of the Bachelorette. We cannot promise we stayed on topic all the time, or even most of the time, but we had a good time (and hopefully you will too!) Here is a link to the article we were going off of in this episode description so you can follow along and look at the photos of t...

Apr 01, 20211 hr 39 minSeason 4Ep. 1

FINALE - The Bachelor (Matt)

Matt James deserved better than this finale. We have so enjoyed watching him this season and it made us very sad to see his journey come to a close like this. That being said Emmanuel Acho absolutely destroyed as host of After the Final Rose and we want him to come back every time! The bachelorette announcement was also very exciting and gave us a little flicker of hope, but there are still a million and one problems with the bachelor franchise, and if we are going to keep watching this show it ...

Mar 17, 20211 hr 52 minSeason 3Ep. 11

Fantasy Suites - The Bachelor (Matt)

Other than the problematic airing of a deeply personal conversation between Matt and his father this really felt like the most boring fantasy suites week in a while. And Rachel's episode long breakdown was not what we needed to make it more engaging. That is why we were so glad to welcome Anders back to the pod this week because he can make any subject entertaining! Also we had many difficulties this episode, technical and not technical, so please bear with us as Grace is not a professional edit...

Mar 12, 20211 hr 24 minSeason 3Ep. 10

Women Tell All - The Bachelor (Matt)

Grace and Liv discuss Taylor Nolan's tweets, as well as the least dramatic Women Tell All in Bachelor history (that they somehow managed to make two hours long). Also yay Brittany! We mentioned in the episode that we would link some accounts of people who have been contributing to the discussion surrounding the current situation with Taylor Nolan. However most people who we saw who commented on the situation put things on their stories that have since gone away. However we still wanted to link t...

Mar 03, 20211 hr 40 minSeason 3Ep. 9

Hometowns - The Bachelor (Matt)

Big news loyal listeners - we are in love... with Michelle's parents! And also Michelle. And also Bri's mom. And also everyone's family except Rachel's. Whoops. Overall a stellar Hometowns episode, it wasn't able to rival Tayshia's but that's an unrealistic standard to hold any episode to. We'd say we're looking forward to recapping Fantasy Suites for you but unfortunately we have to suffer through Women Tell All (gag) first, so I guess we'll see you next week for that shit show.

Feb 25, 20211 hr 15 minSeason 3Ep. 8

Week 7 - The Bachelor (Matt)

More happened on this episode than the entire rest of the season combined. If they think having two rose ceremonies is going to get them back into our good graces, they're gonna have to do a lot better than that! Also, in an embarrassing turn of events.... Heather... Finally, in very exciting news - we get to crown our sexy #5 of this season (the only position that matters) (we're not talking about sex get your mind out of the gutter)!

Feb 20, 20211 hr 26 minSeason 3Ep. 7

Week 6 - The Bachelor (Matt)

Fire Chris Harrison. We do recap this week's episode (sorry we're so late), but first we get into Chris Harrison's recent Extra interview with Rachel Lindsay about Rachael Kirkconnell and the discussions about race that it sparked in Bachelor Nation this week. Accountability is not the same thing as cancel culture. Petition to remove Chris Harrison from the Bachelor Franchise: https://www.change.org/p/abc-remove-chris-harrison-from-the-bachelor-franchise Rachel Lindsay Abasolo: @therachlindsay T...

Feb 13, 20211 hr 18 minSeason 3Ep. 6

Week 5 - The Bachelor (Matt)

Liv, Grace, and special guest Anders tackle the epic highs and lows of high school volleyball (just kidding, but MJ was totally captain of the team). We bid a satisfying and joyful farewell to Anna and Victoria, and are bored out of our skulls by an episode primarily about Rachel and Kit. Maybe that's why we went on so many tangents. Join us as Liv goes on a journey of discovery - whether it's bcc or what a red bottomed Louboutin signifies.

Feb 04, 20211 hr 32 minSeason 3Ep. 5

Week 4 - The Bachelor (Matt)

Liv & Grace have a bad time with a bunch of dickheads on this episode. Update: we hate Anna and we don't know how we feel about basically anyone else except for Katie. This mob mentality shit has GOTTA GO!!! We don't happen to think that Brittany is an escort, but if she was it wouldn't matter. Sex work is real work.

Jan 27, 20211 hr 24 minSeason 3Ep. 4

Week 3 - The Bachelor (Matt)

Grace & Liv go on 79 tangents but still somehow make it through the episode. The main character of this episode was definitely the donkey we forgot to talk about. Also if anyone is interested in joining our Bachelor Book Club we're starting a reading list.

Jan 20, 20211 hr 21 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Week 2 - The Bachelor (Matt)

Grace & Liv complain about Victoria for a long time, just like everyone else in the episode. They are also pleasantly surprised by the number of seemingly chill and articulate participants who also happen to be incredibly hot.

Jan 13, 20211 hr 25 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Week 1 - The Bachelor (Matt)

We're back bitches!!!! Did you miss us? You better have, it's been a whole week! Please join us as we experience Matt James' journey to find love with one of the 32 fucking women ABC cast this season. We like Anna and Bri and some other people and will be mourning the loss of Alicia until we inevitably see her in paradise (are you listening Mike Fleiss??).

Jan 06, 20211 hr 20 minSeason 3Ep. 1

FINALE - The Bachelorette (Tayshia)

Well we made it folks. To the end of the season that first destroyed and then renewed our faith in the bachelor franchise. It also gave us one of our most favorite new bachelor couples to date (congrats Tayshia and Zac <3)!! We are joined yet again by best-friend-of-the-pod Anders to recap this final episode and briefly discuss our hopes for future seasons, as well as which actresses we frequently confuse for one another. This finale was a joy to watch, a joy to recap, and we hope you'll join...

Dec 29, 20201 hr 32 minSeason 2Ep. 13

Fantasy Suites - The Bachelorette (Tayshia)

We are back on board the loving the bachelorette train!! This episode was totally predictable and we enjoyed every minute of it! Can't wait to see how the season wraps up!!! (well Liv already watched the finale and Grace accidentally saw spoilers but you get the point...)

Dec 24, 20201 hr 1 minSeason 2Ep. 12

Hometowns - The Bachelorette (Tayshia)

Liv and Grace will continue to be sad for the rest of the season because we love literally every single person left and just want Tayshia to marry all of them and never send any of them home. But she has to do it. And we are SAD ABOUT IT. Also everyone has terrible opinions but us about Ben.

Dec 18, 20201 hr 9 minSeason 2Ep. 11

Week 10 - The Bachelorette (Tayshia) (and Men Tell All)

First of all we love our final four guys!! Only good part of this episode!!! (Other than Riley and Jason at the Men Tell All - we love you bbs). Fun fact: the T in "MTA" actually stands for terrible - which is what this episode was.

Dec 16, 20201 hr 7 minSeason 2Ep. 10

Week 8 - The Bachelorette (Tayshia)

Liv and Grace have a bad time talking about Bennet and his weird presence and presents (get it?). We stan Zac C. Send Blake home.

Dec 03, 20201 hr 12 minSeason 2Ep. 8

Week 7 - The Bachelorette (Tayshia) (with special sibling guests!!)

Joining us this week are Louise and Gio - also known as our little sisters!!! It is very cute and fun and we had a blast talking about some of our bachelor nation faves, as well as what we hated about this episode. Obviously Ivan was a shining star, but there was not much else to redeem this week. And of course the question on everyone's minds: Zach C. - Zaddy or no?

Nov 30, 20201 hr 38 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Week 6 - The Bachelorette (Tayshia)

Oops this episode is very long and an unfortunate amount of time is spent on exposition about Ed and Chasen. We are very sorry, it's just that we couldn't care less about them and so we didn't have anything funny to say about the situation cause we just hate it. But we also get to talk about how much we love Joe, Liv's genius plan for becoming the Bachelorette, and also Grace gets the hiccups at one point. Enjoy!

Nov 20, 20201 hr 22 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Week 5 - The Bachelorette (TAYSHIA! FINALLY.)

In an unfortunate turn of events Grace and Liv are forced to defend Spencer (very hot) and look at multiple men in speedos (very not hot). That being said we are SO excited that Tayshia is finally the bachelorette and can't wait to finish the season with her!! (p.s. why is Kenny still on this show?)

Nov 13, 202054 minSeason 2Ep. 5

Week 3 - The Bachelorette (Clare)

Friend of the pod and man-who-use big-word (Anders) is BACK and ready to give you the hottest takes from the latest embarrassingly bad dumpster fire of an episode. P.S. Was Ed on the show before this episode? P.P.S. We experienced many technical difficulties (but did not cry!) so very sorry if the audio is a little off.

Oct 29, 20201 hr 20 minSeason 2Ep. 3
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