Patrick McLain, a 2012 TLC graduate, shares his journey through a challenging three-year-long sexual assault case that recently ended in dismissal. In this episode, Patrick recounts specific instances where employing TLC tactics in court led to both setbacks and successes. He provides a candid look at what it means to be on your feet, advocating fiercely in the courtroom, and the lessons learned from when things don’t go as planned and when they triumphantly succeed....
Mar 10, 2025•32 min•Transcript available on Metacast Ron Estefan, Vice President of the Trial Lawyers College Board of Directors and a 2005 TLC graduate, shares insights from his recent victory in a premises negligence case. This episode dives into how Ron applied TLC methods to navigate lacking conditions and restrictive courtroom environments effectively. Emphasizing a proactive approach, Ron discusses the strategy of "Don't ask, just do," waiting for intervention from opposing counsel or the judge rather than seeking permission. He also gives a...
Mar 03, 2025•37 min•Transcript available on Metacast Maren Chaloupka, the current TLC president, and John Sloan, her predecessor, delve into the nuanced TLC approach to advocating for fair compensation in legal settlements and verdicts taught at The Courage to Ask TLC event. They explore the critical process of determining an appropriate sum for clients and discuss the complexities involved in assigning monetary value to invaluable losses. This episode examines the inherent challenges of asking for financial compensation in cases where life is pri...
Feb 22, 2025•32 min•Transcript available on Metacast Matthew Martin, a 2019 TLC graduate, joins Rafe to discuss his reasons for applying to the TLC program and the impactful first trial he undertook after graduation. Matthew shares how he immediately implemented the methods learned at TLC, focusing on two powerful reenactment stories—one during practice and another in trial—that significantly influenced the outcomes. This episode delves into the transformative impact of TLC's teaching methods, illustrating how they can dramatically enhance legal a...
Feb 17, 2025•32 min•Transcript available on Metacast Eric Ganci, TLC staff member since 2018, discusses a unique blend of techniques he uses to enhance focus and grounding. In a memorable cross examination session, Eric had a student reverse roles with a client, immersing them fully in the courtroom scenario. Listen as Eric details his experience with working and practicing skills through TLC methods.
Feb 10, 2025•32 min•Transcript available on Metacast Patricia Anderson provides a comprehensive overview of the Trial Lawyers College's 7-step program, an alternative pathway to graduation. This episode delves into the specifics of the program, outlining the importance and objectives of each step. Patricia explains how these steps are designed to enhance the skills of trial lawyers through personal growth and skill development, ensuring they are well-equipped to advocate with empathy and effectiveness. Tune in to gain insights into this transforma...
Feb 03, 2025•37 min•Transcript available on Metacast Learn how Ross LeBlanc, a civil plaintiff attorney and four-time regional TLC attendee, used his trial skills to secure justice in a devastating DWI case involving the loss of a six-year-old child after Thanksgiving 2022. This episode delves into how Ross prepared for the trial alongside the grieving parents, employing the powerful techniques and strategies he honed through his TLC training. Tune in to discover the profound impact of empathetic legal practice and the difference it can make in se...
Jan 20, 2025•34 min•Transcript available on Metacast Ron and Rafe revisit their enriching experiences at Mo Ranch during the TSF course, where they collaborated on cases and refined their trial skills. In this episode, they delve into the highlights of their time together, emphasizing the fantastic opportunities for growth and learning. They also explore the concept of psychodrama, discussing how it enhances the practice of law by demonstrating the truth, rather than just telling it. Tune in to hear how these seasoned professionals use innovative ...
Jan 13, 2025•30 min•Transcript available on Metacast Join our host, Mark Wagner, as he interviews Rafe Foreman, who shares a moving story from a recent mediation. Rafe recounts how a heartfelt song about grace and forgiveness, sung by his clients, profoundly impacted both him and the opposing counsel. The defendants were so touched that they insisted on joining and listening to the song again, leading to a rare and emotional moment of unity. Tune in to explore the power of empathy and the unexpected ways it can manifest in legal settings.
Jan 06, 2025•27 min•Transcript available on Metacast John Sloan, the Immediate Past President of TLC, reflects on his pivotal decision to step down and pass the leadership baton. In this heartfelt episode, John discusses the complexities of transitioning from a role he has cherished and how he plans to continue thriving in new endeavors rather than retiring. Tune in to hear John's insights on leadership, change, and the future of TLC under new guidance...
Dec 30, 2024•28 min•Transcript available on Metacast Join John Sloan, Maren Chaloupka, Laura O'Sullivan, and Ron Estefan for some exciting new announcements regarding the TLC board. Listen to hear the legacy and strategic plan for the future of the Trial Lawyers College.
Dec 23, 2024•28 min•Transcript available on Metacast Mark Wagner, a 2005 TLC graduate and 2015 faculty member from Washington, shares valuable insights on achieving impactful verdicts and the art of being the jury's assistant. In this episode, explore the strategies that lead to significant "not guilty" verdicts and understand how positioning oneself as an ally and guide for the jury can influence the outcome of a trial. Tune in to hear firsthand experiences and practical advice on nurturing trust and credibility in the courtroom.
Dec 19, 2024•31 min•Transcript available on Metacast Come and listen to Cambry Bristow detail the fantastic work accomplished at the F-Warrior's retreat in Nebraska City, Nebraska. She also foreshadows a coming proposal that will be published in the Warrior magazine detailing the future plans for the Trial Lawyer's College. After listening to Cambry tell about the excellent retreat, you might find yourself regretting that you missed it.
Nov 25, 2024•30 min•Transcript available on Metacast TLC faculty member since 2016, Thomas Davenport, discusses the importance of communication exercises and tactics that explore the range of human perspectives that impact everything from the classroom and the courtroom. Thomas takes us on an exploratory journey about standing up for others even when it’s tough, developing hobbies that reduce stress, and sharing client’s experiences with authenticity.
Nov 18, 2024•29 min•Transcript available on Metacast Come and listen to Robin and Dusty tell the story of a man who suffered racial discrimination and hear their strategies and exploits of trying a case in Federal Court that is so rural that the judge doesn't even hold motion hearings in the town where the Federal courthouse is located. See how they overcame their fear of trying a case in a rural, conservative area and gained insights from their experience.
Nov 04, 2024•42 min•Transcript available on Metacast Come and hear how Mart Harris and Patrick McLain overturned a federal judges ruling granting JNOV at the 5 th circuit court of appeals.
Oct 21, 2024•29 min•Transcript available on Metacast In a remarkable streak of victories, Mark Hartman, a 2019 TLC graduate, secured eight consecutive not guilty verdicts, illustrating the power of connection over persuasion in the courtroom. Listen as Mark details the power of connecting as the messenger instead of forcing jurors to abandon their most deeply held beliefs in the 15 minutes he has with them.
Oct 14, 2024•34 min•Transcript available on Metacast Jeff Watson, Director of Post Master's Doctor of Nursing Practice program at Texas Tech University's Health Science College, discusses his experience in training nurses on being present for patients including providing a good death experience. Jeff explains how the often called "soft skills" are more accurately called essential skills like compassion and empathy. "We're all just walking each other home".
Oct 07, 2024•31 min•Transcript available on Metacast Join Eli Heller, a recent TLC graduate from 2023, as he details his journey from heartbreaking loss to a recent trial victory after deepening his understanding of openness in the courtroom. Eli describes how he created genuine connections broke down barriers between him, his client, and the jurors....
Sep 30, 2024•31 min•Transcript available on Metacast Patricia Anderson, a 7 stepper graduate of TLC, details her experiences with avoiding burnout by having fun, unplugging, and keeping things simple in her off time. Patricia shares personal strategies for taking care of oneself, having fun, and avoiding burnout—all while staying authentic. From cultivating hobbies to talking to tomato plants and chicken eggs, she discusses how these practices help sustain her energy and enthusiasm. Tune in to discover how creating a nurturing home base and embrac...
Sep 23, 2024•33 min•Transcript available on Metacast Mike Watson, first joining TLC in 2019, discusses the critical importance of building deep connections with clients in legal practice. In this episode, he emphasizes the necessity of comprehensive communication—knowing the worst and best scenarios—ensuring there are no surprises in court. Mike shares insights on the meticulous process of discovering a client's story and finding the key elements that resonate with the jury, reinforcing the idea that understanding and transparency are vital for su...
Sep 16, 2024•35 min•Transcript available on Metacast Join Mike Smith, a 2019 TLC Graduate and recent addition to the faculty in 2023, as he unpacks the lessons from a recent workshop on a medical malpractice case. In this episode, Mike emphasizes the critical importance of forging connections—not just between attorneys and their clients but also between the jury and the client's story. He shares a poignant story about his client whose connection to current events was severed due to a medical issue, highlighting the human aspects that often sway co...
Sep 09, 2024•34 min•Transcript available on Metacast Carlos Concepcion, a law professor in Puerto Rico, dives deep into an innovative exercise for mastering closing arguments. He discusses a compelling piece of video evidence showing an encounter between a man and a woman, which is rich with facts supporting arguments from both sides. The exercise involves pausing the video to identify which facts bolster the closing argument, offering a dynamic and interactive learning experience. Join Carlos as he explores the nuances of argumentative structure ...
Aug 19, 2024•31 min•Transcript available on Metacast Join Ron Estefan, a dedicated TLC graduate and faculty member since 2005, as he shares valuable insights from the latest TLC events. Ron discusses the recent gatherings in Houston, and the challenges and experiences from the latest event in Las Vegas, New Mexico, including unexpected weather issues. He emphasizes the significance of TLC's home base and the vibrant working group in Houston, highlighting how these elements contribute to the growth and effectiveness of the TLC community. Dive into ...
Aug 05, 2024•29 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this revealing episode, Tim Semmerling, a participant at the 2010 Defense of the Damned event, discusses his latest book, 'My Enemy, My Defender.' Tim shares his extraordinary experiences at the 9/11 War Court, where he defended clients under the most challenging conditions, exploring themes of morality, betrayal, and the human side of legal battles. Join us as Tim reflects on the personal and professional journeys that shape the lives of those who operate at the front lines of high-stakes la...
Jun 17, 2024•32 min•Transcript available on Metacast John Sloan, President of the Trial Lawyers College, recounts his recent victory in a Taos County trial in New Mexico, where he secured a $15 million verdict. In this episode, John shares the compelling narrative he presented to the jury that led to this significant win. Register for a TLC event! https://triallawyerscollege.org/trial-skills-courses#cle-credits-section Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professional; you’...
May 27, 2024•33 min•Transcript available on Metacast Mike Smith, Mike Watson, and Minerva Steele join us to celebrate and share their recent $5.25 million verdict. They honed their strategy for this case at a recent Trial Lawyers College event in Tulsa, where they collaboratively workshopped the details and refined their approach. Register for a TLC event! https://triallawyerscollege.org/trial-skills-courses#cle-credits-section Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professio...
May 20, 2024•36 min•Transcript available on Metacast Lydia Hanson, fresh from her inaugural experience at a Trial Lawyers College event, shares how the encounter profoundly transformed both her legal practice and personal life. Lydia delves into the unique aspects of the event, from sharing a room with a fellow attendee to engaging deeply in psychodrama techniques, and participating in intensive, topic-focused sessions. Join us as she explores the significant impact these experiences had on her approach to law and her understanding of herself. Reg...
May 13, 2024•37 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this enlightening episode, we welcome Austin Kaplan, a dedicated employment and civil rights attorney based in Austin, TX, and a long-time listener, first-time caller to our podcast. Austin discusses his work spanning breach of contract, overtime violations, and civil rights cases. He shares his journey of learning and gathering insights from the TLC community, emphasizing how the wisdom from the tribe enhances his practice and advocacy. Tune in to hear how Austin integrates the rich knowledg...
Apr 29, 2024•31 min•Transcript available on Metacast Join us as Hilary Hammell, a dedicated plaintiff-side employment lawyer and two-time attendee of the Trial Skills Foundation, shares her compelling journey into employment law. Starting with her early experiences working alongside laborers in Yakima, Washington, Hilary delves into the profound impact of advocating for workers' rights. She explores how helping laborers speak out against unfair employers and poor work conditions has not only changed their lives but also restored their dignity. Tun...
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