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The Product Design for Learning Podcast

Welcome to The Product Design for Learning Podcast! I’m Greg Arthur, and I’m excited to guide you through an in-depth exploration of human-centered design, leadership development, performance consulting and visual design, to create incredible learning products and experiences. Whether you're an industry professional or simply looking to refine your skills, this podcast will help you tackle the challenges of product design with practical strategies that boost engagement and foster growth. Tune in for insights that will sharpen your approach and elevate your impact in the design world
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Episodes

Ep.30 A (genuinely) interesting conversation about Leadership Development.

Greg speaks with Kenny Temowo about leadership development, organizational culture, and the impact of AI on the future of work. They explore Netflix's innovative culture, traditional vs. modern leadership programs, and the evolving role of AI in leadership and organizational change.

Apr 08, 20261 hr 9 minEp. 30

Ep.29 SHOW. ME. THE. ROI

In this episode, Greg Arthur hosts a lively discussion with Sarah Wood and Paul Morgan on the nuances of measuring ROI in L&D. They explore why traditional metrics often fall short and how organisations can better understand the real impact of their learning initiatives. Key Topics Differentiating between learning impact and financial ROI The importance of measuring behaviour change, not just activity completion The role of organisational culture in shaping learning outcomes Practical approa...

Mar 25, 20261 hr 5 minEp. 29

Ep. 28 Learning Strategy is not a one-size-fits-all

Summary In this episode, Greg Arthur and Stephen Egri delve into the complexities of learning strategies within organizations. They discuss the importance of understanding what a learning strategy entails, the various components that make up an effective strategy, and the role of technology, particularly AI, in shaping the future of learning. The conversation highlights the challenges organizations face in implementing these strategies and emphasizes the need for stakeholder engagement and data-...

Mar 11, 202643 minEp. 28

Ep.27 Agencies in L&D (2026 Edition)

Summary In this episode of the Product Design for Learning podcast, hosts Greg Arthur, Ashley Hinchcliffe, and Caleb discuss the evolving landscape of Learning and Development (L&D). They explore the challenges faced by internal L&D teams, the importance of external support, and the need for a shift in how L&D is perceived within organizations. The conversation emphasizes the necessity for L&D to align with business objectives, embrace change, and focus on delivering tailored lea...

Feb 25, 202643 minEp. 27

Ep.26 L&D Models: Then, Now and Next

Summary In this engaging conversation, Greg Arthur and Toby discuss the current state of Learning and Development (L&D) models, the challenges posed by outdated frameworks, and the impact of ego on the industry. They explore the necessity for flexibility in learning models, the role of AI in education, and the importance of self-awareness for personal growth. The dialogue emphasizes the need for a shift in mindset within L&D, advocating for a focus on individual development rather than r...

Feb 11, 20261 hr 11 minEp. 26

Ep. 25 Education and the 'rebirth' of Learning (the unintentional Xmas episode)

In this conversation, Greg Arthur and Nick Shackleton Jones explore the critical distinctions between education and learning, emphasizing the need for experience design in learning environments. They discuss the influence of social media on learning and development, the challenges posed by traditional learning models, and the importance of context in creating effective learning experiences. The conversation highlights the disconnect between theory and practice in learning, the rituals that often...

Dec 03, 20251 hr 18 minEp. 25

Ep. 24 Why I'm leaving Learning.......(for now)

Summary The conversation explores the significant changes occurring in the industry, focusing on the relevance of skills, the importance of positioning, and the need for professionals to adapt to stay competitive. It highlights the varying responses individuals have to these changes, from actively engaging to feeling left behind. Takeaways Our industry is undergoing significant transformation. The relevance of existing skills is in question. Many professionals feel unprepared for these changes. ...

Nov 19, 20251 hrEp. 24

Ep.23 FINALLY, a refreshingly honest conversation about AI.

In this conversation, Adam Harwood discusses the integration of AI in talent development and the importance of knowledge sharing within organizations. He emphasizes the need for curiosity and experimentation with AI tools, sharing personal experiences from workshops and internal sessions. The dialogue explores user stories, real-world applications, and the future of AI in HR, highlighting the significance of creating a culture that encourages exploration and collaboration. Takeaways AI is a tool...

Oct 22, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 23

Ep. 22. The Learning Network; nice people doing great things in L&D

The Product Design for Learning Podcast - sponsored by Two Circles Design Studio. Learning Network discount code for CONNECT, is: twocircles10 Takeaways The Learning Network fosters a sense of belonging among its members. Community is built on trust and openness, allowing for safe discussions. Members range from newcomers to seasoned professionals, creating a diverse environment. The network provides opportunities for mentorship and professional growth. Success is measured qualitatively through ...

Sep 25, 202538 minEp. 22

Ep. 21 It's time for some real-talk on skills frameworks

Keywords skills frameworks, performance improvement, learning and development, EdTech, agile learning, AI in education, stakeholder engagement, data analytics, organizational culture, continuous improvement Summary In this conversation, Greg Arthur and Phil Lord-David delve into the complexities of skills frameworks within the learning and development (L&D) sector. They discuss the importance of starting with business outcomes rather than merely mapping skills to roles, the pitfalls of tradi...

Sep 02, 20251 hr 2 minEp. 21

Ep 20. What *EXACTLY* is The Future of Learning?!

Keywords future of learning, learning and development, corporate learning, accessibility, inclusivity, data-driven learning, AI in education, generational perspectives, employee experience, decentralized learning Summary In this episode, Greg Arthur hosts a discussion with Jess, Toby, and David about the future of learning and development. They explore the uncertainty surrounding the future of learning, the importance of accessibility and inclusivity, and the need for corporate learning to evolv...

Aug 15, 20251 hr 22 minEp. 20

Ep. 19 The real-life red pill / blue pill of L&D

Keywords learning design, cognitive neuroscience, attention, focus, engagement, product design, learning revolution, digital detox, future of learning, organizational learning Summary In this episode, Greg Arthur interviews Lauren, the Learning Pirate, about the intersection of cognitive neuroscience and learning design. They discuss the outdated models in the learning industry, the importance of understanding how the brain works, and the need for a revolution in learning practices. Lauren empha...

Jul 04, 202559 minEp. 19

Ep.18 ChatGPT is not SkyNet, L&D is not The T1000

Keywords AI, production, technology, human skills, learning design, tools, job security, generative AI, digital intelligence, critical thinking, AI, collaboration, creativity, future of work, human skills, technology, problem-solving, innovation, prompt engineering, decision-making Summary In this conversation, Greg Arthur and Ross Stevenson explore the role of AI in production, emphasizing the importance of human skills and critical thinking in leveraging AI tools effectively. They discuss misc...

Jul 03, 20251 hr 5 minEp. 18

Ep. 17 If failure was a cake, cut me a second slice!

Keywords Learning and Development, Startups, HR, Experiential Learning, Stakeholder Management, Problem Solving, Employee Training, Corporate Learning, Self-Awareness, Learning Culture Summary In this episode, Greg Arthur and Nick Bilotta discuss the unique challenges and opportunities of Learning and Development (L&D) in startup environments. They explore the importance of experiential learning, the role of HR in startups, and how to effectively manage stakeholders. The conversation emphasi...

Jul 02, 202559 minEp. 17

Ep. 16 Why L&D Conferences Need a Total Rethink

pdfl - ep16 - show notes The Future of L&D Conferences: Breaking the Mould with Anamaria Dorgo and Dinye HernandaEpisode Summary In Episode 16 of Product Design for Learning , host Greg Arthur is joined by Anamaria Dorgo , Learning and Community Consultant at Handle with Brain , and Dinye Hernanda , Founder and Learning Designer at haus of ilmu . Together, they explore the current state of learning and development (L&D) conferences , discussing what works, what doesn’t, and how a shift t...

May 28, 20251 hr 9 minEp. 16

Ep. 15 MAAS Marketing Are In The House (Sharing MAAS Wisdom Nuggets)

PDFL_EP15_SHOW NOTES How MAAS Marketing Elevates Learning Products Through Marketing Integration | Episode 15Episode Summary In Episode 15 of the Product Design for Learning podcast, host Greg Arthur welcomes Ashley Hinchcliffe and Hannah Clark from MAAS Marketing. Together, they unpack why marketing is not just a final step, but a continuous thread in learning product design. The conversation dives deep into the integration of marketing and L&D, the importance of audience research, avoiding...

May 14, 202552 minEp. 15

Ep. 14 I Still Haven’t Found the Data I’m Looking For in L&D

Data-Driven Learning Design: Insights from GSK’s Global Head of L&DEpisode Summary In this episode of Product Design for Learning , host Greg Arthur is joined by Carlo José, Global Head of Leadership and Learning at GSK. Together, they unpack how data, performance consulting, and design thinking intersect to build impactful learning strategies at scale. From debunking mobile learning myths to discussing the power of personas and practical ways to measure impact, Carlo shares rich insights fr...

Apr 29, 202559 minEp. 14

Ep. 13 Recruiting in L&D: What’s really changed since 2020?

Recruitment Realities in L&D: A Deep Dive with Andrew WelshEpisode Summary In this episode of Product Design for Learning , host Greg Arthur sits down with Andrew Welsh, Director of Digital Learning Solutions at Instinct, a specialist L&D recruitment agency. Together, they explore the evolving recruitment landscape within Learning & Development, covering topics such as market shifts, AI's role in hiring, and the growing demand for data-driven skills. Whether you're a candidate naviga...

Apr 15, 202542 minEp. 13

Ep. 12 Why Your L&D Data Strategy Is Failing

Mastering the "Understand" Phase in Product Design for Learning with Tom McDowallEpisode Summary In this episode of the Product Design for Learning podcast, host Greg Arthur sits down with Tom McDowall, Chair of The Learning Network, to dive deep into the "Understand" phase of the product design process. Tom explains why this phase is critical, sharing practical advice and strategies on assumption mapping, stakeholder engagement, and data analysis. Listeners gain insights into balancing fact and...

Apr 02, 202551 minEp. 12

Ep. 11 The Truth About L&D That No One Admits

Human-Centred Design for a Skills-First Transformation | PDFL PodcastEpisode Summary In this episode of the Product Design for Learning podcast, host Greg Arthur is joined by Charlie Kneen from Solvd Together to discuss human-centred design for a skills-first transformation . They explore the realities of skills-based organisations, the pitfalls of traditional competency frameworks, and how businesses can genuinely embed skills-first approaches. Charlie shares his perspective on why many organis...

Mar 19, 202548 minEp. 11

Ep. 10 HOW CAN WE SLEEP IF L&D IS BURNING

Exploring Learning as a System with Nick Petch – PDFL Podcast Episode 10Episode Summary In Episode 10 of the Product Design for Learning podcast, host Greg Arthur engages in a deep conversation with Nick Petch, a design-based researcher with over 20 years of experience in learning, strategy, and systems thinking. Together, they explore the intersections of innovation, learning ecosystems, and service design, challenging traditional approaches to L&D. Nick shares insights on how learning need...

Mar 03, 20251 hr 39 minEp. 10

Ep. 9 Building Learning Products WITH Your Audience

Building Learning Products in Public with Laurie Barton – PDFL Podcast Episode 9Episode Summary In Episode 9 of the Product Design for Learning podcast, host Greg Arthur sits down with Laurie Barton, a learning product designer and community-led advocate, to discuss the concept of "building in public" and its transformative impact on learning products. Laurie shares insights into how engaging with communities and involving end-users throughout the product lifecycle can lead to more effective, au...

Feb 17, 202557 minEp. 9

Ep. 8 Great Marketing Tells Great Stories

Navigating Market and Release in Learning and Development with Alice ThompsonEpisode Summary In this insightful episode of the Product Design for Learning (PDFL) Podcast , host Greg Arthur welcomes Alice Thompson , Development Partner at M&S. Together, they explore the intricacies of marketing and releasing learning products within a global organization. Alice shares her expertise in training international teams and emphasizes the importance of storytelling, audience understanding, and relat...

Feb 06, 202554 minEp. 8

Ep. 7 You Say You Want an L&D Revolution

Leadership in Learning: The Future of Impactful L&D – Episode 7 with David JamesEpisode Summary In Episode 7 of the Product Design for Learning Podcast , host Greg Arthur welcomes David James, Chief Learning Officer at 360Learning and host of The Learning and Development Podcast . The episode dives deep into the concept of "Leadership in Learning," exploring how L&D professionals can move beyond process-driven approaches to become strategic partners driving real impact within organizatio...

Jan 17, 202552 minEp. 7

Ep. 6 The Art Formerly Known as Production

Mastering Production in Learning Design: Insights from Matt Ash of ChangeablyEpisode Summary In this episode of The Product Design for Learning Podcast , host Greg Arthur delves into the nuances of production with Matt Ash, founder of Changeably and a seasoned expert in learning design. Together, they explore how to streamline production processes while maintaining creativity and quality, even when faced with challenging projects like compliance training. Matt shares lessons from his career, inc...

Jan 06, 202538 minEp. 6

Ep. 5 Agency 007: Partnerships

Navigating the Agency and In-House Dynamic: Insights from Jess AndrewsEpisode Summary In this episode of the Product Design for Learning Podcast , host Greg Arthur sits down with Jess Andrews, a seasoned learning and development professional with experience on both the agency and in-house sides of the table. Jess shares insights into the nuanced relationships between agencies and internal teams, the challenges of making an impact in learning and development (L&D), and how to foster collabora...

Dec 13, 202452 minEp. 5

Ep. 4 MVPs - Success in Disguise

Mastering MVPs: Insights on Testing and Validation in Product Design with Patrick MullarkeyEpisode Summary In this episode of the Product Design For Learning Podcast, host Greg Arthur sits down with Patrick Mullarkey, Senior Leadership Development Manager at Staffbase, to discuss the pivotal role of Minimum Viable Products (MVPs) in the product design process. From idea validation to scalability, Patrick shares his expertise in creating learning strategies that drive meaningful outcomes. This en...

Dec 02, 202447 minEp. 4

Ep. 3 The End of L&D?

The End of L&D? Reimagining Learning and Development in a Changing WorkplaceEpisode Summary In this episode of the Product Design for Learning Podcast , host Greg Arthur is joined by Toby Kheng to discuss the provocative topic, "The End of L&D." They explore the challenges, limitations, and future possibilities of Learning and Development (L&D) as it currently operates within organisations. Toby argues for a systemic overhaul, where L&D evolves into a more holistic "employee expe...

Nov 18, 20241 hr 22 minEp. 3

Ep. 2 L&D Data Rock: Key Strategies for Real Impact

Product Design for Learning Podcast: L&D Data Rock: Key Strategies for Real Impact | Ep. 2 Episode Summary In this episode of Product Design for Learning , host Greg Arthur talks with Bo Duery, Impact Lead at Lepaya, about the pivotal role of data in designing and measuring learning programs. Bo shares insights from his journey from chemical engineering to Learning & Development (L&D), discussing why data should be an integral part of the design process. From setting actionable goals...

Nov 04, 202445 minEp. 2

Ep. 1 Understanding The Understanding Phase

Understanding the 'Understand Phase' in Product Design Episode Summary In this episode of the Product Design for Learning Podcast , host Greg Arthur speaks with Arash Mazanani, a dynamic learning leader from Aggreko, about the critical Understand Phase in product design, particularly in the context of learning solutions. They dive into the importance of this phase, which involves thoroughly exploring problems and defining requirements before moving into solution-building. Arash shares his insigh...

Oct 24, 202452 minEp. 1
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