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The Human Side of Money

Are you ready to delve into the emotional side of money, enhance your practice, and forge deeper connections with your clients? The Human Side of Money Podcast offers actionable ideas and strategies to empower financial advisors with the skills needed to excel in understanding the behavioral aspects of finance. Join Chief Behavioral Officer Brendan Frazier as he shares invaluable insights, tips and strategies. Subscribe now to elevate your practice and client interactions!

Episodes

81: A Framework For Facilitating Conversation And Connection Throughout The Planning Process with Josh Gilliam (Part I)

In 2005, Josh Gilliam set out to research, read, and learn everything he could about behavioral finance, psychology, and communication. He was seeking to master the human side of advice. 18 years later, he admits it's still a work in progress. But, he took what he learned and created the [Fi] Life Framework. A framework he uses to facilitate better conversations and connections with clients and prospects. We discuss: The #1 risk in not adopting the human side The tool he uses to help clients vis...

Apr 26, 20231 hr 32 min

80: The Golden Circle of Financial Advice: Understanding The Connection Between Goals & Values

If you work with people and their money to fund something now or in the future, it's absolutely crucial that you understand the dynamic between goals and values. Once you can move beyond goals and understand what's truly important to the person you're meeting with, everything changes. In fact, once you embrace and internalize this dynamic, research shows it creates emotionally connected clients that pay more, refer more, follow-through, and consolidate assets. In this episode, I'll break down wh...

Apr 21, 202328 min

79: Behavioral Finance Principles That Actually Improve Financial Behavior with Barry Ritholtz

As behavioral finance has moved into the mainstream, one thing has become clear. It's great to know there's a way to explain a client's sub-optimal behavior. But, it's an entirely different challenge to know what to do about it. In other words, behavioral finance has done a great job of providing advisors with a list of diagnoses: Overconfidence, anchoring, Dunning-Kreuger Barry Ritholtz has been on the cutting edge of behavioral finance for years. In this episode, he peels back the curtain to s...

Apr 12, 20231 hr 39 min

78: The Art of Asking Great Questions That Get Great Answers with Warren Berger

Asking great questions is a superpower for financial advisors. But, it's not enough to simply ask questions. The types of questions, the timing of questions, and the tone of questions all matter. In other words, there's an art to asking great questions. Fortunately, Warren Berger is a Questionologist and the world's foremost authority on questions. He is here to walk us through the art of asking great questions that get great answers from both clients and prospects. In this episode, we discuss: ...

Mar 27, 20231 hr 42 min

77: Best Questions For Each Step Of The Client Journey

Every advisor always wants to know what questions to ask. But, more important than WHAT you ask is WHEN you ask it. A great question asked at the wrong time is no longer a great question. In this episode, we'll go through six different steps of the client journey and arm you with three questions to use at each stage: Intro Call Discovery Meeting Onboarding Implementation/Recommendations Review Meetings Every Conversation To sign up for Brendan’s monthly newsletter focused on the human side of ad...

Mar 22, 202337 min

76: Emotionally-Compelling Conversations To Fast-Track Trust And Likability with Deirdre Van Nest

We all know that human beings buy on emotion and justify with logic. Yet, when meeting with a prospect, the majority of advisors default to leading with logic rather than emotion. The success of your prospect meeting hinges on your ability to communicate in a way that takes them out of their heads and into their hearts. Once you do that, you can create a level of trust in 3 minutes that often takes 3 years. Fortunately, Deirdre Van Nest works with advisors on the keys to communicating in an emot...

Mar 15, 20231 hr 50 min

75: Understanding The Brain To Ignite Motivation Within Clients And Prospects With Ted Klontz

Financial advice requires working with money and people. Working with money is the easy part. You need a calculator and some decent math skills. Working with people is the hard part. You need an understanding of what goes on in their brain. Ted Klontz says, "The more you understand how the brain works, the more effective you'll be working with people." In this episode, he reveals what advisors need to know about the brain in order to create motivation and connections with clients and prospects. ...

Mar 02, 20231 hr 45 min

74: Positioning Behavioral Coaching, Top 3 BeFi Ideas, and Introducing Values to Long-Time Clients

This is the inaugural "Ask Me Anything" (AMA) episode. Whether it's been emails, Twitter DM's, LinkedIn messages, one-off virtual meetings, coaching sessions, or at a conference, one thing has become clear about financial advisors and the human side of advice. You guys have questions. A lot of really good questions and I want to help you answer them on your path to mastering the human side of advice. I've got an ongoing list of questions, so if you have a question that you want answered, send it...

Feb 22, 202343 min

73: The Evolution Of The “Human Dimension” And Helping Clients “Live Big” with Dave Yeske

Everything changed during FPA Retreat in Cheyenne County, Colorado in 1995. Up to that point, the focus of these gatherings, conferences and presentations was the continued honing of technical knowledge. But, this presentation by George Kinder and Dick Wagner brought the human side of advice into the light. Dave Yeske was in attendance that day and calls the presentation a turning point for the human dimension within financial advice. In this conversation, he describes exactly what it was like t...

Feb 15, 20231 hr 38 min

72: The Power Of Finding Flow For Advisors And Clients with Dr. Jordan Hutchison

Think back to a time when you were "in the zone." A time when you were completely immersed and focused on what you were doing. Psychologists refer to this as "flow." It's a state of mind that athletes and creative artists describe when they're operating at their peak.A flow state elicits greater enjoyment, energy, and involvement in what you're doing. So, imagine if you could learn how to apply it for yourself and your clients. Fortunately, Dr. Jordan Hutchison has done the research and shares h...

Feb 01, 20231 hr 51 min

71: 9 Guiding Principles For The Human Side of Advice

You'll never truly master the human side of advice until you have the right mindset to do it. And, unfortunately, most advisors need a complete re-programming. One that wipes clean most of what you've been taught over the years. A mindset shift that transforms the way you approach your clients and your practice. If that sounds daunting, don't worry. I've distilled it into 9 guiding principles. Once you've fully embraced these 9 principles, you'll have the foundation to master the human side of a...

Jan 25, 202345 min

70: Developing The Essential Communication Skills Every Advisor Needs with Dr. Jim Grubman

In healthcare, client outcomes and client satisfaction are directly correlated to the doctor's "bedside manner." The same holds true for client outcomes and satisfaction in financial planning and advice. In fact, research has shown that the #1 thing prospects look for in an advisor is "Interpersonal Skills." But how do you create trust and improve your interpersonal skills? Fortunately, Dr. Jim Grubman built programs for advisors on how to hone and develop essential communication skills. Here’s ...

Jan 18, 20231 hr 21 min

69: The Psychology of Referrals (Part II) with Dan Allison

Ever wondered why you don't get more referrals from your clients? Good News: Most advisors have a client base that's willing to refer. Bad News: Most clients aren't capable of executing a referral. Armed with this information, Dan Allison designed a comfortable process for advisors that creates clients who are both willing and able to refer. And once you combine the two, the referral floodgates are opened and the trajectory of your business will never be the same. We discuss: The 5 characteristi...

Jan 04, 20231 hr 39 min

68: The Best Ideas & Insights From 2022

The Human Side of Money in 2022: Released 28 episodes Had 21 conversations with expert guests Delivered 2,342 minutes of content on the human side of advice Inside those 28 episodes, 21 conversations and 2,342 minutes lie hundreds of ideas, insights, and nuggets that will do two things: 1) Enhance and enrich your clients' lives 2) Forever change the trajectory of your business and career But, there were certain ideas inside each episode and conversation that delivered more impact than others. Ce...

Dec 27, 20221 hr 26 min

67: How To Guide Comfortable Conversations That Actually Inspire Change with Jeremy Keil

Every advisor has two puzzles to solve: What to do and how to get them to do it! The first requires an understanding of numbers. The second is an understanding of people. Whether you're trying to get a prospect to become a client or a client to implement your advice...One thing is certain. The least effective way to get them to do something is to push or persuade them. The most effective way is to get people to persuade themselves. There's a communication technique that does just that called "mo...

Dec 07, 20221 hr 33 min

66: Establishing A Goal Hierarchy To Create More Meaningful Goals with Eric Trexler

Most goal-setting exercises have one major flaw. They focus too much on WHAT someone wants to accomplish rather than WHY they want to accomplish it. The best goal-setting exercises combine the two. They produce goals that are both meaningful and measurable. Goals that provide connection and clarity. And when you do that, clients are motivated, inspired, and resilient. But, the question is how? Fortunately, Eric Trexler knows. He uses a "Goal Hierarchy" with his fitness clients and explains how i...

Nov 23, 20221 hr 48 min

65: Four Pillars Of The Ultimate Discovery Meeting

The discovery meeting is the single most important meeting for your clients and your practice. If you’re like most, you’ve probably looked up “the best questions to ask prospects in a first meeting.” You’ve likely picked up ideas listening to podcasts with advisors explaining how they conduct their meetings. You’ve implemented the tips and tricks you gathered from talking with fellow advisors. But, it still feels like there’s something missing. It hasn’t quite clicked. Here’s what you’ll learn: ...

Nov 16, 202232 min

64: A Comfortable Approach For Turning Prospects Into Clients Without Being Salesy with Nancy Bleeke

You can't help a prospect if they never become a client. You can't help a client if they don't implement your advice. Like it or not, both require a skillset rooted in sales. As Nancy Bleeke points out, sales isn't about being pushy. It's simply an information exchange. And the purpose isn't to convince someone to do something. Rather, it's to guide them through a process that leads to a confident, comfortable decision. Fortunately, Nancy teaches advisors around the world an approach to convert ...

Nov 09, 20221 hr 46 min

63: Defining Financial Purpose By Viewing Money As A Tool Rather Than A Goal with Derek Hagen

No client actually cares about maximizing their wealth. Every client cares about maximizing their life. Therefore, money should never be a goal. It should simply be a tool. A tool that funds the life you want to live. That's why every client needs to define their "financial purpose." It allows clients to align their money with what's truly most important in their lives (rather than what they think is important). But the challenge is knowing how to do this with clients. Fortunately, Derek Hagen d...

Oct 26, 20221 hr 49 min

62: The Psychology of Communicating and Delivering Advice with Dr. Derek Tharp

Your client's decisions are almost always subconsciously driven by invisible influences. Should I wear a suit? Should CNBC be on in the lobby? Does the way I'm presenting the info influence the client's decision? Should I offer free financial planning in the beginning or charge for it? Whether these things should influence a client's decision-making or not, they do. Fortunately, Derek Tharp has conducted the research for these questions and joined the show to share the psychological insights adv...

Oct 13, 20221 hr 40 min

61: A Toolkit To Change Client Behavior And Improve Follow-Through of Advice

The job of a financial advisor and planner isn’t simply to dispense the advice, pat yourself on the back, and walk away as if your job is done. It’s to help the client follow through on your advice. Ensuring they implement and execute the items you’ve laid out that solve their problems and achieve their goals. The reality is that getting clients to actually follow through and implement the advice you give without constant follow-up is hard. There are several possible explanations. One of the mos...

Oct 05, 202254 min

60: Using Money To Accumulate Happiness Rather Than Wealth with Chris Budd

Money and happiness will forever be intertwined, specifically the relationship between the two. While money may not be able to buy happiness, it can certainly influence it. When you're working with people and their money, you have the opportunity to help them use their money in a way that accumulates happiness rather than just simply accumulating wealth. Chris Budd runs an organization focused on helping advisors and planners understand what clients actually want from their money. And, he explai...

Sep 28, 20221 hr 27 min

59: Tools For Discovering And Changing A Client’s Money Mindset with Rick Kahler

Money decisions are never just about money. Research tells us that about 90% of all financial decisions are made emotionally, not logically. Decisions driven by our mind rather than our money. And every financial behavior, even if it appears illogical, makes perfect sense once you understand the underlying beliefs, feelings, and thoughts that accompanied the decision. These beliefs, feelings, and thoughts form your money mindset. Fortunately, Rick Kahler is one of the pioneers in this space and ...

Sep 15, 20221 hr 22 min

58: The Advisor’s Guide To Money And Behavior with Dr. Brad Klontz

Whether you've been an advisor for four days or four decades, you know that your client's success has just as much to do with their mind as their money. It's simply not enough to run through Monte Carlo simulations and construct diversified portfolios. And you know it's critical for you to be able to understand your client's psychology and behaviors around money. But, the challenge lies in knowing how to apply psychology to real-life client scenarios. Fortunately, Dr. Brad Klontz is one of the f...

Aug 31, 20221 hr 39 min

57: The Trust Formula: How To Consistently Build Trust With Clients and Prospects With Mary Schmid

Trust is the foundation of success in financial advice. Research has found that trust is the #1 characteristic clients look for in a financial advisor. But how can you quickly instill trust into the conversation with a prospective client? How can you consistently build trust throughout your relationship with a current client so they refer more and follow your advice? Mary Schmid will explain how to conduct conversations that quickly and consistently build trust with clients and prospects. Here’s...

Aug 17, 20221 hr 39 min

56: 10 Insights To Master The Human Side of Advice

Every single advisor and planner recognizes the importance of the human side when working with people and their money. And every single advisor and planner wants practical, tangible ways to embed it in their practice. After exploring the human side of money with 50 of the brightest minds on behavior, psychology, communication, and money, I wanted to help make it as practical as possible. Consider this the training that every advisor needs but never received in any training, designation, or certi...

Aug 04, 202256 min

55: Infusing Life Into The Financial Planning Process with Tim Maurer

Most financial advisors do a great job focusing on WHAT clients want to achieve (Goals) and HOW to achieve it (Financial Planning). But the best advice focuses first and foremost on WHY. It focuses on the client's values, purpose, intentions (what's truly most important in their lives). And everything flows from there. A financial plan without a "Why" is merely data on a page. A portfolio without a "Why" is merely a list of investments. Starting with "Why" infuses life into the financial plannin...

Jul 20, 20221 hr 33 min

54: Helping Clients Achieve Life Money Balance with Dr. Preston Cherry

What's the point of tripling your net worth if you still dread getting out of bed every morning? That's why financial advice at the highest level focuses on more than the accumulation of money. It focuses on the alignment of money with what's most important in the client's life. It's what Dr. Preston Cherry calls "Life Money Balance." It's at the core of his planning process, and he joined the show to walk us through how he helps his clients achieve life and money balance. We discuss: Why "state...

Jul 06, 20221 hr 22 min

53: The Psychology of Decision-Making in Financial Planning with Hal Hershfield

It's the most storied rivalry in finance. The current self versus the future self. The very nature of financial planning work with clients is heavily focused on the future. Yet, the current self often calls the shots when it comes to financial decisions. In a profession so heavily focused on the future, the key to improving client's behaviors, decisions, and outcomes starts by addressing the most storied rivalry in finance. By striking a balance between their current self and future self. Fortun...

Jun 22, 20221 hr 7 min

52: Developing Emotional Intelligence (EQ) To Transform Relationships With Clients And Prospects with Beverly Flaxington

You’ve likely heard of emotional intelligence (EQ). Intellectual intelligence (IQ) is important. But, EQ is crucial. Especially when you work with emotional human beings on the emotionally charged topic of money. But, how can advisors and planners seamlessly incorporate EQ principles into their practice? Beverly Flaxington, Human Behavior Coach®, best-selling author, and international speaker joined the show to break down human behavior and how advisors can apply EQ principles. We discuss: The t...

Jun 10, 20221 hr 37 min
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