143: Jonathan Siebert: Overcoming Adversity and Inspiring Others

With Greg , hey , hey , hey . And with Alicia , hello , good to see you . My friends , no crickets tonight , friends . If anything , we're going to test to see how good the wind screen on this microphone is , because it's very breezy Not stormy , but very breezy in central Florida . So if you hear wind noises , it's all good to go .

This week's episode , our featured guest , jonathan Siebert , remarkable , remarkable young man . Jonathan is Suffers from Apert syndrome and has one heck of a story to tell you . Talk about upbeat and inspirational . Jonathan will get you going . And thanks to Melissa Leanne for recommending that we get in touch with Jonathan In the race report spotlight . I'd had enough .

I had to go across the ocean and get in touch with Danny in the Netherlands so that he could pronounce the names of the races for me this week . So Danny's in the race report spotlight .

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You did a six and a half mile long run last week , so we back it off here for training week number seven . Back to the base of three miles for your long training run this week . Oh , looking at the training schedule , we're not far away from starting training for Wine and Dine and for Marathon Weekend .

We had a momentous occasion occur earlier on this day our day of recording . We'll get to that in just a moment , but first let's talk training a little bit . Alicia , you wanted to talk something today .

We know lots of other ones , but I am a run coach as well . So if you want to check out my website at runningwithalishacom , I do have a discount for our Rise and Run listeners , so it's $10 off a month if you're interested . So I just want to throw that out there .

I don't care how slow you go in these summer months . These are tough months to get through . We haven't really started dopey training yet . You will in July . It's a challenge . Stay hydrated . We all say that , but I think what we miss sometimes is that hydration is an all-day process . Miss sometimes is that hydration is an all-day process .

I'm not talking about just taking your water bottle with you on your 10k run or whatever your training is for that day , but stay hydrated throughout the day .

When the weather cools off and the dew point drops and there's more oxygen back here in the atmosphere or there's less water vapor and you're absorbing more oxygen molecules , it's going to feel a heck of a lot better . You're going to get out there one day in depends on where you live somewhere between September and November and go oh wow , this is great .

I feel like I'm carrying supplemental oxygen and I'm going and you wait and see . We're going to be doing , we're going to be wearing out the PR bell this fall if you do your training this summer .

Heat exhaustion you're over , sweating more than normal , you know , might be a little faint or dizzy , that's you need to stop , get some water , cool down and keep yourself safe . Just don't overdo yourself .

You know when you go to input your magic mile into the Jeff Galloway magic mile calculator , you know it's going to shoot out your long run pace , and I know for a lot of people that sometimes that number seems really slow . I can't run that slow .

But the thing that really blew my mind in terms of the Galloway method is that when it comes to the long run , is that that number not only is your pace but it's also your speed limit , because I have heard coach say over and over and over again that you know really forward momentum is a pace and that if you want to be able to conserve as much energy as

possible and still get the same amount of endurance benefit , try not to go over that limit . And then obviously throw the heat onto that as well too .

That number is going to start to that long run pace is going to get slower and slower as well too , especially since the rule of thumb with Jeff and I'd have to imagine , other coaches as well is you should be slowing down 30 seconds per mile for every five degrees over 60 and , and I'll tell you right now , I honestly think there is no shame in walking

workouts you know these next couple of weeks , and I'll give you a perfect example . Last week was my daughter's last week of school and she had half days , and so I was in a crunch to be able to get some work done and try to get my work done , and I didn't have a ton of time , but I had enough time to get out and I was like you know what ?

I'm going to just walk this workout instead of run . That way I won't have to shower and I'll still have enough time to get my daughter off the bus . And let me tell you , by the time I was done with my walk , I still needed to take a shower .

I feel like , as interval runners like outside of , like maybe going on a family walk with other people that aren't walking as fast when you're just walking by yourself and you do interval running , your pace is always faster . So of course , I was definitely working up a sweat in the ground .

It was also pushing lunchtime too , so you know , was a little bit warmer as well , but you can still get a great sweat just by walking and you know , just realize there is zero shame in that whatsoever .

First thing in the morning I went out this morning . First thing I try to time my runs when I'm running . I've been doing a lot of aqua jogging lately , but when I'm running I try to time it so that I get done 30 minutes after sunrise . 30 minutes after sunrise is typically the coolest part of the day .

The temperature continues to drop Even as the sun comes up . It takes a little while for the sun to heat the earth back up and then the earth heats the atmosphere .

The sun doesn't actually heat the atmosphere , it's the other way around the sun heats the atmosphere , the sun doesn't actually heat the atmosphere , it's the other way around the sun heats the earth , the radiation heats the earth , the earth heats the atmosphere .

So the coolest part of most days and you can find exceptions , but most days about 30 minutes after sunrise . So I go out . This morning Temperature was 75 . Dew point was 70 . For a lot of people that would feel warm . I went oh man , this feels great . But the point I wanted to make is going back to that conversation with Jeff , and I was joking .

I said , jeff , if I slow down 30 seconds a mile , or for every five degrees over 60 , I'll have to start running backwards . And he said to me Bob , you'd be surprised . The people who suffer the most heat-related injuries are those people who are accustomed to running in hot weather . And I did . First of all , I trust Jeff and I knew he was correct .

But I did a little further research just to understand why and it is a fact and it has to do with you feel like you're invulnerable to it . You've done it before and you feel like , oh golly , I can keep going . So , even if you're used to this kind of heat , be careful , be careful . All right , I think we've . I think we've laid on that .

We'll come back to it . I promise we haven't seen the hottest days of the year yet . We'll come back to it . I promise we haven't seen the hottest days of the year yet , we'll come back to it .

But I do feel comfortable telling you that if you can get out there and do some training , even at a very slow pace in the summer , it is going to pay huge dividends for you in the fall . All right , let's talk about something by the time . This episode is released .

Gang is registering for this race . Nonetheless , I jumped onto our group chat at 945 . I do not know how many folks were there . There were a fair number and everybody's excited and ready to go and folks are nervous and they're saying they're nervous . And of course I've done this a lot of times and I'm saying calm down , it's going to be okay .

First thing we notice is that the registration links aren't open , and by 945 , 950 , they usually are and I thought this is odd . But maybe because it's the West Coast run , disney folks are going to do it right at 10 o'clock and we got forward . And then someone posted into the chat the image of the dwarfs we're working on . It Is .

And when I say nothing and if you were there , you you know what I mean Not only did the screens not change , but we did not hear anything from Run Disney . I think it was almost noon before we heard from Run Disney and when we did , they said nothing . They said , oh , the system's not working . Well , we know that .

Now , again , full disclosure I am not planning on running this race weekend and it wasn't in the chat . But again , I can sympathize with everyone out there . Oh , I feel bad for him . I am actually . And Greg , maybe this is a hot take I'm actually not going to fully pin this one on Run Disney .

And the reason why I say that is because it wasn't our Facebook page , but it was a different Facebook page and , john , I think you might have even made a comment about , wasn't our Facebook page , but it was a . It was a different Facebook page and , john , I think you might've even made a comment about this in our group chat is um .

Someone had put up this post that apparently AWS , which is Amazon's , um , like server web web services or whatever they're cloud , that's cloud . Correct ? Yeah , they're cloud . Um web services or whatever . They're cloud . That's the cloud . Correct ? Yeah , they're cloud .

Apparently , a lot of websites that use AWS were having difficulties today , and I found that to be really interesting .

So while I was at my daughter's swim lesson today , I Googled AWS issues , and usually , whenever I have any technology or website snafu or whatever , I always go to down detectorcom , and when I clicked on that , it showed AWS is experiencing difficulties and you saw , like this massive spike you know for for today .

So , while we don't know for sure if run disney uses aws , I , I feel like it's . There's a pretty good chance that they might . So if they do , if aws is part of their infrastructure system in terms of registration , obviously that is kind of out of their control and I'll slightly give them a pass now .

The negative , though , is and and I'll I'm right there with you , bob I think it took run disney way too long to put out updates today . Yeah , absolutely I , I want to . I I feel like like the first update that I saw was something in in relation to um .

We know we're experiencing difficulties please be patient with us but I feel like it took 45 minutes to to get that message out and , in terms of , like , you know your brand , you're the one that built the brand .

You know that these races could sell out in 45 minutes , so I I feel like that should have been done within I don't know 10 , 15 minutes of of this whole absolutely snafu happening and then , but now I'll finish the others .

The other uh bread piece of the sandwich here with the compliment is I think they made the right call in terms of just shutting it down for the day , because I think what created a lot of issue and a lot of hurt feelings and ptsd is you know . I'm going to go back to marathon .

You know what you referenced before bob marathon weekend registration for um , the marathon weekend 2023 .

So that would have been what april of of 22 , bob , I remember you having a hell of a time getting oh , yeah , and I didn't going from , you know , dopey to goofy , to just the marathon and then the 5k and then alicia , you being completely shut out , yep , and I think where they created issue there was the fact that , okay , they were having all these

technical errors , but then they were like , okay , registration is now going to open at 1230 pm Eastern . But obviously some people were still looking at their spinning wheels and they got placed farther in the queue where people who joined in earlier were able to get in .

So I think by them saying , listen , we're shutting it down , it's not happening today , we're going to pick a different date . I thought that was a really smart move on their part , but again , their communication in the interim between those two points really needs to get better .

I am hopeful that between the time of recording and the time of release Disney has an update to say all right , registration is going to occur on such and such a date at time . I don't know that . The folks I feel terribly for well , I feel bad for everybody .

But in the group chat there were several folks who said I took the day off of work because I know this can last all day . Now what am I supposed to do ? I , I don't know . I don't know . I don't know if we can . If we can think of a way to help you , we will , but I don't know what that is .

I was like I wouldn't be shocked in the least bit if the reason why this isn't working is to push more people to do club run disney , but then I but then I realized , though , that that really isn't plausible , because there are so many people who already do club run disney and it sells out , especially within the renewal period , so quickly that I'm like , well ,

no , they actually , in theory , don't have any other , any other spots to be able to open up . But , um , you know , seeing a lot of banter though , and and and the memes and we can talk about the memes later if we want , because there were some real good ones that got shared to that but it was our friend Amanda over at Once Upon a Marathon .

She had brought up a really good point , but , again , I don't ever see this coming back , though , because of the birth of Club Run Disney . The reason why there was a crash is the number of people who were inundating the system and having multiple browsers open and log jamming . Everything is .

Bring back the idea of early registration for annual pass holders and DVC members , and even if you wanted to incorporate Club Run Disney into that , I think you could still have that . But maybe let club run disney register two weeks before the public and then let aps and dvc register a week before , and then , you know , finish it off at the end , you know .

So I I don't know if that helps alleviate the system , but again , we'll never know the technical reasons as to why today was such a kerfuffle .

It wasn't like , oh , you're AP , you're DVC , you're getting anything special , You're getting earlier to station . But you still had , say , a percentage of the available slots . You didn't get full cart .

I go , yeah , this should be interesting . And I notice in every picture Jonathan's got a big smile and I say I need to meet this guy . And here he is with us tonight , jonathan , welcome to the Rise and Run podcast .

head up high , even though times might be sometimes maybe difficult , even though times might be , sometimes maybe difficult .

And I always kept my head up high even though I was being bullied .

And I'm now a motivational speaker and I speak to kids around the world about my story growing up and I want to just inspire the world that you can do anything that you set your mind to and in that , to always choose kindness , because you don't know what somebody's been through in their life and with the world that we're living today , kindness should take place

instead of brilliant yeah , absolutely , jonathan .

And in doing research in preparation for , uh , this interview , I came across a lot of articles , especially from school news bulletins , that again you're going into the classrooms and speaking to kids about this , especially the anti-bullying efforts . Can you tell us what kind of impact that has had on you ? And then also , how did you get involved in that process ?

Do you work with a motivational speaking firm or is this just something that you do on your own ?

One day and one night , I created an idea and I talked to my parents about it and I started speaking to schools a few weeks later and I just wanted to tell my story related to the book and movie Wonder , and even though my syndrome is different than Augie Pullman's , the main character in the Wonder story he has Tricia Collins syndrome and I have April syndrome

, but I relate to what he is going through because I've been through it as well in my life with the Boolean and people who have been cruel to me , and I just wanted to start speaking to kids and give my message to them and it makes me feel good about doing that , and I have been .

I've been getting a lot of positive feedback from schools around the world . I've spoken to all 50 states in the US , including Australia , pakistan and India .

You have changed everyone's life and I have noticed less bullying at recess and everyone was kind to one another and want to play with one another at recess , and to me , that made me feel happy to hear that and that I have changed these kids already to choose kindness and to accept one another , because everyone in this world is different and we may look

different on the outside , but on the inside we are the same .

I'm glad to hear that .

So in 2014 I went on a disney cruise and they have a cast of a key 5k and I wanted to do it because I knew a lot of people who have done Run Disney in the past and that inspired me to do Run Disney and I did that 5k and after that I was hooked on Run Disney and I've been on many Disney cruises and every time I go to Castle Bay Key , I have

done the Castle Bay Key 5K and I one day wanted to do the Walt Disney World one and so in 2021 , I did the Wine and Dine 5K and Half Marathon and that was my first ever half marathon , ever event in person .

So you have , you know , a couple of years and a couple of races under your sleeve . Obviously , I know you're gearing up for a big one now for dopey , but can you give us like , what would be like your best run Disney highlight that you've had since you've started running in 2021 ?

motivator to them too that they can do anything in life .

I believe you are a certified instructor , right ? Yes , sir , okay tell us how that journey started and what makes you love Zumba so much .

And I finally one day had the courage to try a Zumba class and I was hooked on Zumba and I did many classes and then one day I wanted to become a Zumba instructor and I taught from 2017 to probably 2020 . Eventually , I don't teach anymore , but I'm still a licensed instructor if I decided to go back .

But I just it made me happy and I loved dancing yeah it's super fun . Indeed , and I took dance classes when I was in college , and that also made me inspired to try a Zumba class too .

And it was just delightful talking with Jonathan and I'm very excited to see him and I'm glad he was suggested . Hope you enjoyed that and if you see him at Disney World , make sure you tell him . I know who you are . I heard you on the Rise and Run podcast . Oh , thanks , jonathan . Let's see what we got going on . Kids , a little pup date .

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I don't really have a date yet , but I'm hopeful that we can get the shop reopened by the 1st of July . We're looking at a couple of things we're looking at . We still have inventory from the old shirts , which is with Judy now in Florida , so she'll be ready to ship those . We are most definitely looking into ordering visors .

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Friends , I like to make some notes that I see the information that you post in social media that I think is relevant , that the rest of the Rise and Run family would like to know about or would want to hear about , our friend Sue of the 169 races in Connecticut . She's actually in Ireland right now on a vacation . Sue's father recently passed away at age 93 .

Sue , our thoughts and prayers , our condolences with you and your family . Our friend Amy Beth last Monday went through her final surgery for her mastectomy . It's part of this process and I'm not going to pretend to understand it all , but I do want to talk about what an amazing thing this is to me . Amy Beth is on her marathon journey .

She's going to be running Chicago in October . We have I have to think about this every now and then . We have multiple people who are suffering from multiple maladies , from things , from challenges that's the word I want from challenges that gosh . We hear about them and read about them and go , gee , I hope everything goes the best for this person .

And then we see the post where they say , hey , I'm doing real well and I'm recovering , and we see the smiling faces . And then we forget about it . And I was actually . I was honest to goodness . I was thinking about this . I was listening to Fitz's podcast while I was doing my aqua jogging and we know Fitz is a cancer survivor .

She's been cancer-free for years , but that doesn't mean she doesn't have challenges every day . Years , but that doesn't mean she doesn't have challenges every day . That doesn't mean that her life is back to what it was before , and that's true for all our friends here too .

So I just wanted you to know that we know that what you're going through is really challenging . You're going through is really challenging , that we want to support you any way we can and that we kind of understand that , even though you're smiling and you're saying everything's great , we know it's not quite what it used to be .

and so always choose kindness in your heart towards everybody . But we do a really good job here at the Rise and Run podcast for that .

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So I've done this myself before and I want to kind of want to play on this one and have a little fun with it . And it is an eight week challenge .

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Let's start on Thursday , and I just noticed we had several runs outside of the US this week . This is not one of them . Our buddy , the Camden County runner , jack , did the Bloomberg Square Mile Relay in New York . Let's move to Friday and visit the Netherlands . I think I'd like to visit the Netherlands , john . What about you ? I'd go there .

I think Looks like a beautiful place . Well , since we can't get there , at least not right now , our friend Danny has joined us here in the Race Report Spotlight . Hi Danny , how are you doing ? I'm doing great .

We've met before and you really seem like a great guy and I know you're a good runner and all that , but for one week now I don't have to pronounce the Dutch names . Let's start on Friday . And here's how I would say it . I would say the Amsterdam Zuidas run . Am I close Amsterdam ?

I love Disney and I love meeting characters , and I saw there were rare characters in Disney races . So I trained for the 2017 half marathon in Paris .

So that was my first Disney run and one of my first runs as well Disney run and one of my first runs as well and after that I never really quit when you said rare characters , he was talking about you and me .

So so I think 85% of running is your mind and you can be more fit , and others but and some have more experience , but it's , it's a lot about the mind and , yeah , I am lucky , I'm a little fast , but I train four times a week , so yeah , it helps .

I I enjoyed the heck out of . That was great . That's not why we're here . Let's talk about these runs . Let's start with the one that you just told me I'd butchered the name on the business district run in the 10k . How did it go ?

a little too fast , but in the end I'm I made up for it and , uh , I did a pretty decent time within 45 minutes . So that's not a pr but I I was very satisfied with it and there were two speed skaters running with the race and I beat them and they were like a big medalist , so I was very happy with that .

So I did this pretty good and they had a nice medal too , and there was a little festival at the end and we with some drink and food booths and and it was nice great when I was with two colleagues , so that's nice too . So just only they did the 5k , but we came together and had a drink together , so we had a nice evening .

15k yeah , 15k , yeah it's a nice , nice catered training run for you , danny yeah , yeah , absolutely , absolutely , and it was a nice crowd and I was lucky because it was dry . This morning was very windy but it was dry and it was about 55 degrees , so not bad for running and it was a beautiful run . The omnia is .

It's a very young city , only 50 years old . Oh and uh , it was . It was sea 50 years ago , so he made land out of it . Out of it as the medellins and it was . It was mostly through parks and greenery , so that was very nice . And he had some good crowd support and some entertainment and that was really nice .

And towards the end because we started really early around 8 , and towards the end there were a lot of people watching and we got a medal and a nice granola bar , so it was very nice , okay , that sounds wonderful .

I have no promises , yeah , hey , on the other side , you're coming to the States a couple of times for some Disney runs . Why don't you tell us about it , please ?

Wow . Way to go , great job First overall female Devin way to go . She didn't say that it was a PR , but I don't care . If you win , you get a bell anyway . Great job Devin In Benton Arkansas . You know what Benton Arkansas is famous for guys .

We've talked warm enough for now , but it's going to be warm for most of the rest of the year . Italian ice for a summer race finish man ? That should be required . That should be regular , right up there with Watermelon , and they did in this case . They had Bananas at the finish Plus two-mile run . Shelby Allison set a PR .

Whenever he felt like he wasn't in a group , he accelerated into the one in front of him , which I think that's a pretty good idea . He finished a tick under 52 minutes , which is an age group and course PR . Next up , our buddy , doug , said it was hot and fun .

He took this one easy and made sure that he stayed hydrated and relaxed , still had a great time and secured a spot in next year's New York City half . That's a tough one to get into , for sure , thanks to this race being part of the New York Roadrunners . You know that's a tough one to get into , for sure .

Um , thanks to this race being part of the New York Roadrunners four out of six program . So next up for Doug . He's bringing on New York City and dopey training and then rounding out this race in Flushing Meadows . Grace was there . Uh , she set an ambitious but doable a goal , which was to make them challenging .

She settled into her B goal , though , of a sub-60 , and she did make that . Getting to run past the sights of the 1939 and 1964 World's Fair Also , that's where the tennis center is as well , for the US Open were real highlights for her .

Wouldn't it be cool , though , if they put a replica of the World's Fair and you could run by the OG Carousel of Progress ? Wouldn't that be a sight to see on a run ?

So for what it's worth , let's move to Bellbuckle , tennessee . You know what Bellbuckle's famous for gang . Bellbuckles . Yeah , no , not much really . I don't think it's a quaint little town . It's not far from the Jack Daniels distillery , but it's a nice place , Very pretty . Anyway , kylie was there .

Kylie ran the RC Cola Moon Pie 5K in Bell Buckle Toasty and humid weather , but Kylie said , of course , pr , humid weather , but Kylie said , of course , pr . In Roscommon , michigan , the Hickens Lake Sunrise Half Marathon . Liz , actually there were two Liz's . There were two Liz's there . They ran this small local race . A lot of serious runners , lots of hills .

The Liz's kept their intervals up until mile 12 and then walked until the finish line was in sight , rounded in said course , support was starting to break down before they finished , even though they were within the time goals . Now we hate to hear that Liz says good event for the 12 minute per mile folks , maybe not for the back of the Packers .

We also wanted to make sure we understand that Mark , mark Liz's husband , did not run and should not receive any credit for any of these miles . That's very important . He did , however , drop off , pick up and provide lunch , so that's worthy of acknowledgement . Baltimore , maryland , the Pride 5K .

Let me take you back a couple of weeks to the Baltimore 10-Miler and you may recall our friend Latia and I do hope I'm pronouncing that right Latia .

Letia and I do hope I'm pronouncing that right Letia posting a photo she had fallen in the Baltimore 10-miler and she posted a photo with her cousin , got an ambulance ride , all that good stuff , said she was fine .

Well , she was Letia and her cousin Stephanie were back out there , back out for a 5k in Baltimore hot day , otherwise great with her cousin again was able to pay Stephanie to a PR in this 5k . Glad you're back , latia .

Pretty good long recovery . But I'm glad again , glad to see she's doing so much better . So that's a ah , let's call it a post ankle rebuild PR . Age group sixth for Christy that's outstanding . And age group three third place for her friend Elise .

She hurt her knee about 20 kilometers in ran the next 30 kilometers in a lot of pain , but crossing the finish line made it all worth it . We can do hard things . Great job , nicole Zach . Her husband was doing the half marathon . She wants to congratulate her husband , Zach , who crushed this half marathon PR and got a POT for Dopey . So another PR bell .

Another PR bell Carhays Castle 5K . Our friend Anna did that around the beautiful grounds of the castle here in Cornwall . A lot of hills and trails but very pretty . Finished a nice refreshing dip into the sea . So way to go , yeah good job , anna .

Now I'm starting to get nervous because the way the drop works is you choose a distance 10 or 15 miles you are taken to a starting position and you have to find your way back . I was afraid Andy got lost and didn't get back . Let me explain a little more . You start at the meeting point . You do your paperwork .

You start at the meeting point , you do your paperwork , you sign your releases . He had a friend with him . They give you a tracker , a race bib , a bag and essentially a blindfold . They're blacked out glasses , I believe .

You take your phones , your watches , any other GPS stuff you have or any other maps that you might have and you put them into this sealed bag . Then you get on the coach , a bus here in the U ? S , and you put your blacked out glasses on the bus doesn't go straight to the drop point , they go .

They make left and right turns , they double back , they go around roundabouts multiple times so people can't really tell what direction they're going . They finally drop you off at a starting point and it's on you to make your way back to the finish line at Newcastle upon time . Now , andy said when he dropped off .

He said he knows the local area pretty well so it didn't take him that long to figure out where he was and how to get back . He noticed a lot of runners were all taking the same route , but he and his friends decided to have a little more fun , take a more scenic route . In total , the 10 mile is a radius . It's a circle , so it's as the crow flies .

So if you're running on roads , it's going to be more . He ended up doing about 14 and a half miles in less than three hours . Had a great time . Less than three hours , had a great time . If this sounds interesting to you and you want to learn more about it , check out Andy's YouTube channel Roller Coaster of Running . I think this one's pretty cool .

Good job , andy . Another unusual event , this one in Greenville , south Carolina . Catherine ran an ultra with a twist . It's a two-mile loop . Catherine ran an ultra with a twist . It's a two mile loop . It's hilly , uneven grass , divots , clay , kind of a tough trail . You start at 6.30 in the morning .

You got 45 minutes to complete that first two mile loop , regardless of when you complete it assuming it's under the 45 minutes of when you complete it , assuming it's under the 45 minutes you cannot start the second loop until 7.15 . For loop two , you have as much as 44 minutes to complete it and then it doesn't start until 44 minutes later .

Then 43 minutes , 42 minutes goes on and on until , if you're still with it , at 10 at night . You got 15 minutes to do the last two-mile loop . Catherine trained hard , maybe a little over-trained for this . One Wasn't really prepared for this kind of trail running .

Heat index of 95 , finished up on lap 9 , 18 miles , catherine , that's still pretty cool and what an interesting race . Couple interesting races to finish up on Saturday . Let's move to Sunday , canada , the Banff Half Marathon . Ellie , ellie was there quite a day at the Banff Half Marathon .

It was cold , unseasonably cold even for that part of canada , in fact , later on they had some snow , but it was chilly and rainy that day . The highlight , or low light , or most interesting part of this race was the 20 minute bear stop in the route . They were actually stopped by park rangers because there were bears in the vicinity .

Trace of rain means it's going to pour . Apparently it did that four different times throughout this uh half marathon . Nonetheless , an experience she'll never forget and would recommend to anyone did the bear pr .

This was a 5k jennifer's first 5k quite a while , first one that she ran the majority of and that mean for jennifer it was a pr the home of the football hall of fame canton , ohio , was the pro football hall of fame father's day .

After a disappointing run the day before , she felt good after the first mile , turned up the pace a bit and felt pretty good after that and she was very happy to see so many friends at this local race wrapping up sunday in sayville , new york , we Ambulance 5K Dina ran this race , a small-town race , to help support one of the volunteer ambulance companies in

Long Island . Way to go , dina .

Megan and Dina , who had done the run in Sabel on Sunday Megan was there Two co-workers joined Megan . It was nice to have some running buddies Ended the evening with ice cream and beer Not a bad start to the week . Dina also says great race support , great crowd support . She mentions the beer and ice cream Must have been pretty good .

Mentioned twice , beautiful sunset and this week she won a trip to Saratoga Springs in November . Congratulations , congratulations to all of our runners in the race report . Great job , especially as the weather's warming up . We're proud of you . Hey , friends , it is a Zoom Thursday .

Now I'm going to be at Disney World , but I'll get on , log on and maybe have some friends with me and we'll all get together and join in on this Zoom . We sure do hope to see you there . You can vent your frustration . We sure do hope to see you there .

You can vent your frustration about the Disneyland weekend registration and maybe , maybe , maybe , by then it will be over .

We look forward to seeing you real soon .