In episode no. 90, my guest is Bridgette Toy-Cronin, Director, Civil Justice Centre, Co-Director, Otago Centre for Law and Society and Senior Lecturer, Faculty of Law, University of Otago. We cover: The access to justice issues in Aotearoa New Zealand; Key aims of the ‘Wayfinding for civil justice’ project; How the project commenced at the start of the pandemic with a hui; The other jurisdictions the working group looked to for guidance on this project; How the project is doing two related but d...
Nov 17, 2022•38 min•Ep. 90
In episode no. 89 my guest is Fiona Kirkman, CEO and co-founder of FamilyProperty. We cover: The functionality of expert system FamilyProperty that Fiona and her co-founder (husband!) Tim developed; The journey of FamilyProperty from an idea to MVP, to market, to acquisition; The integration of FamilyProperty with global practice management software, Smokeball bringing the ‘business of law’ together with effective delivery of legal advice; How technology is always changing and the need for ongoi...
Oct 26, 2022•45 min•Ep. 89
In episode no. 88, my guest is Nicolas Patrick, Partner, Head of Responsible Business, DLA Piper. We cover: Nic’s views on the potential of technology; The reason for DLA Piper holding a forum on technology and access to justice in 2019; The problem with digitising existing processes; Why an international law firm without family law expertise, supports a Sydney based non-profit family law firm; The way Wallumatta Legal operates and how it runs an efficient practice; How pro bono provides insight...
Oct 11, 2022•37 min•Ep. 88
This is the third episode in a 3-part series about justice entrepreneurship. Part 1 provides an overview of justice entrepreneurship - 3 categories of justice entrepreneurship with real examples from each of the categories and the problem solved. Part 2 covers 5 key factors to maximise the likelihood of success of your justice innovation. You might be surprised to hear about some of them! And now in part 3, we look at funding options and some of their pro’s and con’s. Proudly sponsored by Neota ...
Sep 26, 2022•23 min•Ep. 87
In episode no. 86 I had the pleasure of speaking with John Lord, Co-founder and Chairman of long term sponsor of the podcast, Neota (formerly Neota Logic). We discuss: What John wants the world to know about no-code and why; Some unintended consequences of no-code including hybrid working models; How no-code supports the democratisation of information in both commercial and public interest contexts; The areas of law that are suited to apps, what can be built, and how they help; The scope of oppo...
Sep 13, 2022•45 min•Ep. 86
This is the second episode in a 3-part series about justice entrepreneurship. Episode 3 was an overview of justice entrepreneurship - the types of issues justice entrepreneurs work on, the 3 categories of justice entrepreneurship with real examples from each of the categories. This episode covers 5 key factors to maximise the likelihood of success of your justice innovation. You might be surprised to hear about some of them! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic Links: Justice Entrepreneurship Artifi...
Aug 26, 2022•20 min•Ep. 84
In episode no. 83 I speak with Co-founder, CEO and General Counsel of Turnsignl, Jazz Hampton. We discuss: The problem that prompted the creation of TurnSignl and how Jazz and his co-founders knew it was the right time to act; The professional backgrounds of the three black founders; What Turnsigl does and how it works to protect civil rights at scale; How Turnsignl gets to the people who need it (it’s an interesting approach); The product’s similarity to roadside assistance programs or an insur...
Aug 09, 2022•49 min•Ep. 83
Episode no. 83 is the first episode in a 3-part series about justice entrepreneurship. This episode covers: What is justice entrepreneurship? What are the types of issues justice entrepreneurs work on? The 3 categories of justice entrepreneurship Real examples from each of the categories A question to you about what motivates law firm owners? What’s coming up including an interview with a passionate justice entrepreneur and more short solo episodes on how to activate justice entrepreneurship Pro...
Jul 26, 2022•18 min•Ep. 83
Episode no. 82 is about “Law Labs”. In Part 1, I cover: What is a Law Lab and where and why were they set up? What kinds of issues or projects do Law Labs work on? Who are the key stakeholders and the benefits they receive (should I establish one)? Part 2 is all about: 4 things you need for a viable Law Lab (in under 4 minutes!) Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic Links: Institutionalizing Legal Innovation: The (Re)Emergence of the Law Lab Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Pr...
Jul 12, 2022•15 min•Ep. 82
In episode no. 81 my guest is Brian Tang, Founding Executive director of LITE Lab@HKU and Co-chair, Asia-Pacific Legal Innovation & Technology Association (ALITA). We discuss: Career path (which will be interesting to law students); How he became involved with innovation in the law in Hong Kong; Main justice issues in Hong Kong; What LITE stands for, and why it is intentionally a “Lab”; How the Lab works with students from 6 out of the 10 faculties at Hong Kong University; Topics and the exp...
Jun 27, 2022•1 hr•Ep. 81
In episode no. 80 I discuss multidisciplinary teamwork in the context of law firms and legal tech start-ups developing products, services and projects. I cover: An explanation of multidisciplinary collaboration and teamwork (and what it’s not); Effective and real-life examples in both a commercial and not-for-profit context; and Tips for making the most from working with a multidisciplinary team. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic Links: Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Pro...
Jun 14, 2022•27 min•Ep. 80
In episode no. 79, guests Simon Goodrich, Co-founder and Luke Thomas, senior legal designer, Portable cover: Portable’s work and its founders’ motivation to do the work it does; Simon’s journey from community radio and running a film festival to his current work; What prompted Portable’s foray into justice issues and how design and technology can leverage high value tasks and have impact; Specific justice projects including with family violence, young people, wage theft issues and Amica; Luke sh...
May 30, 2022•51 min•Ep. 79
In episode no. 78, Andrea explores all things document automation. She covers: What is document automation; Use cases in the commercial and not-for-profit context; Factors to consider when embarking on a document automation project; What kinds of documents to automate; and How to overcome barriers to adoption of technology. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic Links: Document Automation - Neota Logic ‘Legal Document Automation – Measuring ROI’ by BamLegal – Artificial Lawyer Neota Logic Solution Gal...
May 17, 2022•18 min•Ep. 78
In episode no. 75 I speak with Catherine Bamford, CEO & Founder of BamLegal. We cover: BamLegal’s clients and services; The UK legal industry’s adoption of document automation; How Catherine addresses some common objections to legal technology; The relevance of time billing and fixed fee in this context; How legal technology intersects with ‘real lawyering’; Who should and shouldn’t ‘own’ a legal tech product or project; How legal technology vendors get sales pitches ‘wrong’; Catherine’s ‘wh...
May 02, 2022•49 min•Ep. 75
In episode no. 76 I share my comments from an International Women’s Day event in Brisbane in early March, hosted by 9 University of Queensland and Queensland University of Technology clubs. I share what breaking the bias means to me and how I apply it in practice, and a particular bias each of us possess and need to be aware of if we are to innovate and bring about social change. Also, as the title suggests, how actress America Ferrera helps us to understand why we don’t innovate more! Proudly s...
Apr 20, 2022•15 min•Ep. 76
In episode no. 75 I speak with Jason Tashea, Consultant with the World Bank and Innovation Fellow at Vanderbilt University. We discuss: Jason’s motivation for his new project, ‘40 Futures’; the fine line between dystopian fiction and reality; Jason’s writing process and the ‘rules’ he set for himself in developing the project; ’40 Futures’ topics including technological surveillance, improper use of alerts, bio-data, digital privacy laws, automated police vehicles, use of genetic material and ‘t...
Apr 05, 2022•51 min•Ep. 75
In episode no. 74, I continue the conversation about technology in courts from episode 73 with Dr Anne Wallace and discuss online dispute resolution “ODR”. I cover: How ODR is defined; 6 key characteristics of ODR; Advantages and disadvantages of ODR; International and Australian examples of ODR; The different forms of technology used in ODR; The volume of disputes resolved by e-commerce platforms; Whether ODR should be applied to resolve disputes at scale; How an effective ODR should be designe...
Mar 22, 2022•24 min•Ep. 74
In episode no. 73 my special guest is Dr Anne Wallace, Adjunct Professor La Trobe University and Deputy Director Sir Zelman Cowen Centre. We discuss: what first prompted Anne’s interest in technology and court processes; court innovations from the 1990’s and how those initiatives have progressed; how courts and lawyers have adapted to the pandemic; how close we are to a virtual court; advantages of audio visual links for providing evidence and what should determine whether it should be adopted m...
Mar 07, 2022•54 min•Ep. 73
In episode no. 72 I share with you 3 (or maybe 4!) things you should know about legal design. The episode covers: The definition of legal design; How it differs from human-centred design and design thinking; 3 categories of legal design; Real examples of legal design in commercial and not-for-profit contexts; Some key elements of any effective legal design process; Questions to ask if you’d like to implement legal design; How legal design intersects with technology; and A special offer from me! ...
Feb 21, 2022•20 min•Ep. 72
In episode no. 71 my guest is Principal Legal Designer, Inkling Legal Design, Sara Rayment. We discuss: Why legal design makes sense to Sara; The types of projects Inkling Legal Design work on and the common thread between them; Common characteristics of Inkling’s clients; The approach to legal design that sets Inkling apart; The diversity of skills in her law firm and design practice; What science has to do with design thinking; The challenges of managing diverse projects; How linear project ma...
Feb 07, 2022•44 min•Ep. 71
In episode no. 70 my guest is lawyer, creator and producer of social project ‘Law for the Lay’, Clarissa Campbell. We discuss: The project she began in 2019 to share the law with everyday people; What happened that prompted her to actually start the project; How her personal and professional background influences her approach; Her unique style using play and humour to share legal information; How she chooses the topics that she covers; Her legal and branding concerns relating to ‘Law for the Lay...
Jan 24, 2022•53 min•Ep. 70
In episode no. 69, I reflect on the podcast over the past 12 months and since it began. I share: statistics about Reimagining Justice (downloads, topics, guests and listeners); the most downloaded episodes this year and since the podcast began; an excerpt from Episode 66 with founder Courtroom5 Sonja Ebron; characteristics of (award-winning) justice innovators; and 3 things I learned about legal innovation this year. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic. Links: Neota Logic's App Gallery Neota Logic ...
Dec 04, 2021•20 min•Ep. 69
In episode no. 68 my guest is serial public sector transformer, Pia Andrews. We discuss: how her pursuit of “truth” led her to the open-source movement and working in policy development; how technological tools relate to our quality of life; ‘open source’ – its philosophy and implementation and the idea of “clever hacks”; how ‘rules as code’ addresses issues with enforcing regulation; prescriptive and principles-based rules and when each are appropriate; the connection between the cost of implem...
Nov 18, 2021•59 min•Ep. 68
In episode no. 67 I speak with Kate Briscoe, of LegalBeagles. The discussion covers: how Kate’s inability to get a job played a part in starting LegalBeagles; how LegalBeagles works today; the large numbers of threads and visitors to the site; the emerging areas of law covered by LegalBeagles; who the volunteers are, what training they undertake to assist on the platform and why Kate thinks they contribute; how LegalBeagles is filling a gap and providing assistance that isn’t being provided anyw...
Nov 01, 2021•1 hr 11 min•Ep. 67
In episode no. 66, I speak with Sonja Ebron, founder of Courtroom5. The discussion covers: Sonja’s personal experience as a litigant and how that relates to her work today; The types of matters Courtroom5 is best (and not!) suited to, who and how it assists; How the patterns in the law support AI, and how that fast-tracks self-represented litigants’ understanding of their matters; The factors for litigants to do best using Courtroom5; The tools Courtroom5 employs to alleviate emotional distress;...
Oct 18, 2021•50 min•Ep. 66
In episode no. 65 I speak with Michael Green SC, Barrister and founder of Barnet. The discussion covers: Open Law and how technology can make information more accessible; Who are custodians of legal information and how to best maintain it for future generations; The importance of libraries, their centrality to the law and the function of a library in an online world; The changes to the practise of law over the past few decades due to digitisation; Issues of copyright in digitising Commonwealth L...
Oct 04, 2021•1 hr 7 min•Ep. 65
In episode no. 64 I speak with Aniket Doegar, CEO and co-founder of HESPL (Haqdarshak Empowerment Solutions Private Limited), a social impact organisation working on easing access to welfare in India. We cover: What Haqdarshak offers to people and how its services are delivered through the most trustworthy channel; The key reasons that people in India don’t access government social services; Bridging the information gap between the government and its citizens; Why Haqdarshak works with local wom...
Sep 20, 2021•45 min•Ep. 64
In episode no. 63 I speak with Genevieve Wilkinson, Lecturer, Faculty of Law, and Dana Rutner Law and Journalism Student at the University of Technology Sydney and team leader of “Moral Code”, the winning team of 2021 Allens Neota UTS Law Tech Challenge for social justice winning team. We discuss: what attracted Dana to the challenge; the format of the Law Tech Challenge, and the stakeholders involved; the critical role of mentors from Allens and the importance of the Neota training; what made t...
Aug 30, 2021•51 min•Ep. 63
Episode no. 62 is with Lindsay Greatorex, Community Liaison and Education Officer (West Kimberley) with Legal Aid Western Australia (LAWA). We discuss: Blurred Borders - legal resource kits using visual art and storytelling to explain legal concepts in a culturally appropriate way why the kits were developed and how the project got started what sticks and rocks have to do with a bail process map the number of kits that have been distributed and who uses them the process the project team undertoo...
Aug 16, 2021•58 min
Episode no. 61 features Dan Jackson, Executive Director and Jules Rochielle Sievert, Creative Director of NuLawLab, Northeastern University School of Law. The NuLawLab is the interdisciplinary innovation laboratory at Northeastern University School of Law. It is one of the first law labs established in the US and its staff, students and stakeholders are leading the way in the emerging global Legal Design movement. Through its programs, projects, seminars, and research the lab builds cross-discip...
Aug 02, 2021•1 hr 5 min•Ep. 61
