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Ignite and discover how to redefine beauty: A Holistic Approach with Amy Wall, the Skintessa

Aug 08, 202334 minSeason 3Ep. 122
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Ever felt that beauty is more than just skin deep? Suppose I told you that your inner radiance could transform your outer appearance? I had the pleasure of hosting the award-winning esthetician, Amy Wall, popularly known as SkinTessa, who shared her evolution from a regular esthetician focusing on the external to an esthetician of the soul, exploring how the beauty within us can manifest on the outside. She delved into the power of energy and spirit in enhancing our natural radiance, and how she broke free from vanity appointments and cultivated her unique spark routine.

Amy enlightened us on the scientific aspect of beauty, introducing the concept of epigenetics and its influence on our appearances. She candidly discussed the beliefs that may prevent us from attaining our desired results, equipping us with the tools to establish a blueprint for our body and being. Amy also introduced her beauty products, Timelight Skin Nutrition, and explained how she aids her clients in creating their beauty rituals.

In our conversation, Amy emphasized the importance of embracing our inner beauty and aging gracefully. She introduced the concept of the downward beauty value spiral and provided valuable insights on how to halt it, instilling the power of positive affirmations and the significance of a positive mindset. She demonstrated her energetic wrinkle release massage technique and stressed the importance of wellness and gratitude in our lives. On a final note, we’re thrilled to announce that we'll be hosting a women's wellness afternoon with Amy in October. Join us for this riveting discussion where we redefine beauty and wellness with Amy Wall.

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Amy can be found here:
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https://www.instagram.com/the.skintessa/

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Kim Duff Selby

Welcome back , beautiful sparklers . I am so excited to bring you this episode of Ignite your Spark .

Once again , I'm Kim Duff Selby , your host , creator , producer , executive director , editor oh yeah , all that stuff CFO , chief fun officer of my brand , and today we are going to talk about beauty , and beauty really is skin deep , it goes deep , it's spirit deep , it's energy deep , and my guest today is known as the skin Tessa , and Amy Wall is an award-winning

esthetician and she , in 2016 , was the number one esthetician in the United States and she had a wake-up call when she was in her 40s and thought what am I doing ? And she'll tell me if I'm getting this all wrong .

But she has created a transformative approach to beauty and wellness that's helped so many people achieve and I love this a sense of super-conscious radiance . And since I'm all about igniting sparks , let's find out how to ignite the spark within to create the beauty that you want . Welcome .

Amy Wall

Amy , thank you . Thank you so much for the opportunity and I'm delighted to be here .

Kim Duff Selby

I'm really looking forward to delving deep into how we can transform ourselves without the use of , oh , let's say , fillers or Botox or surgery Not that there's anything wrong with that , there's absolutely not , because I just got my first Botox and then I'm interviewing you and you don't need to . But whatever , before we begin , how do you ignite your spark ?

Amy Wall

Mm , I love that . It's a great way to begin and I ignite my spark every day by connecting in with my higher self , my higher purpose , and making sure to turn on , tune in and tap in to my cellular and spiritual energy , which is the spark .

So , talking to the community of cells , mitochondria , molecules that are creating that inside energy , making sure that that's all crackling and then connecting in with my higher light source and you know , it's like walking around with your own personal lighting kit . It's awesome .

Kim Duff Selby

Beautiful , beautiful . I've interviewed a lot of people who speak about energy and meditation , but none have focused on the outer beauty that we can achieve with our inner spark , with our inner light , and I'm really curious about how you made that transition from esthetician to esthetician , esthetician to esthetician of the soul , I think .

Amy Wall

Oh , I love that . You know , an esthetician is really a provider of aesthetics , right ? So let's just tune first into the world of aesthetics . And you know , our word is our wand and that's why they call it spelling , and I'm I really love to talk about words and the divine codes that they contain . And so aesthetics is really around what we look like , right ?

So being an esthetician and being into aesthetics is one thing , but aesthetics and beauty are actually not the same thing . They're closely related and your aesthetic can be beautiful .

But what I found and there is a really good juicy story that I can get into around my awakening , yeah , but what I found was that just helping people change the way that they looked wasn't enough for me .

And how I found that out was because I just was working , working , working on the way that I looked , and I was really empty inside and I started to realize that those two things were connected pretty inextricably , especially as I found you know , found myself through through my awakening .

Kim Duff Selby

Had you always had a sense of spirit within , had you had a belief in the metaphysical ? Had you , you know , believed your entire life ? Or is it something that went boom , oh you're gonna love this .

Amy Wall

Actually I was , um . I was born in the summer of 1969 . My parents were hippies . In the summer of love in San Francisco , they met in the elevator of the hotel California and they decided to move me up to the north coast , about three and a half hours away from San Francisco , to go back to the land .

So I was raised on a hippie commune and consciousness and energy and spirit were some of the first things that I can remember and I actually developed my energetic beauty modality when I was 14 years old . That's 40 years ago . Wow , so it's been . It's it .

I mean , there's a painting my mom painted of me that I just came across and I'm doing little baby mudras , you know . So I was a child of the , of that you know , love revolution , and so it was inside of me .

Kim Duff Selby

Well , what took you to the world of outer beauty prior to changing a little bit , you know , redirecting your course ?

Amy Wall

Yeah , so . So it's all sort of interwoven and and the outer beauty and the inner beauty . You know , it's like that infinity symbol we talked about in our pre-chat . Everything , and you know , everything as we have here in the world is a dual . We have a duality kind of paradox thing that we have to work with .

So the inner and the outer beauty are inextricably connected . When I was 14 and I started doing mirror meditations with the , you know , reading the book you Can Heal your Life I was reading books like Transcendental Meditation and just all sorts of books on consciousness .

My mother was a nutritionist as well , as you know , being in the in the counterculture world . So I was taught to read the back of the shampoo bottles and any personal care and any foods that we ate . So I had a real natural knack for ingredients and things like that .

But I , as you can imagine , growing up on a hippie commune with parents real young parents that were involved in all the things that hippie people were doing , I was benign . We neglected to call to say it .

You know , it's nice because I love my parents , they're doing the best that they could do , but I spent a lot of time by myself and so reading was not only like a trauma response .

But even doing the meditations and the mirror work was really as a way for me to sort of gain confidence , in a way for me to sort of transmute what was happening in my personal world . So I was always that girl that people came to for advice about beauty , even though I was always just , you know , in the natural , natural zone .

But I always knew about products . I knew I was . I just know I'm like a . I've always been like about 10 years ahead of trends , for whatever reason . I live in a tiny little town . There's no accounting for it , except that I have some sort of antenna for me , antana for this kind of thing . So I was naturally good at it .

My mother , or my grandmother , was a model . She was also an interior designer . So I lived in a chicken coop on a hippie commune . But I was always like you know , I'll just take nothing and make something from it . So you know an old sorry that I had , or I was always just making things beautiful and that was a balm for me . It made me feel good .

So I ended up having a 20 year career in the high end hospitality business , where I learned even more about organic foods and how to create extraordinary experiences for guests . And when I could no longer do that , just based on my creativity was literally bursting out of me in my mid 30s .

I just asked myself how can I still live in this magical town where , you know , there isn't a lot of career options ? What could I do ? That would take my gifts and be something I could do . So I ended up going to school to be an esthetician and a makeup artist and I just , you know , was naturally good at it .

So that's how I got into the outer beauty world . But what ended up happening was I fell asleep during that time , just based on , you know , kind of not wanting to be doing the things that my parents were like .

You know , if I had to eat all health food with them , then , you know , I wanted to go get some fast food once in a while and I just wanted to be normal in my mind .

Yeah , so during that time , I just and the time that I was an award-winning esthetician , I just really kind of I call it falling asleep , and I even call my clients , before I meet them , sleeping beauties . There's nothing wrong with being asleep . We need our beauty sleep .

But when we are sleeping to the magic that's living underneath our skin and the magic that we can create with our own focused attention and our cellular and spiritual energy , then you know I'll call that asleep . So that's , that's a little round of outweigh like listen to you talk forever .

Kim Duff Selby

I sort of love the way you string your words together too it's just kind of downloading it .

Amy Wall

But let me tell you what really happened and I think you'll find this kind of interesting because I'm sure that your listeners and I'm sure that you have found in your own life . Sometimes life hits us over the head with a two by four when we're not doing what we're supposed to be doing . It's like hello , you get the call , you don't pick up the phone .

You get the call , you don't pick up the phone and finally you have to get a wake-up call . And my wake-up call happened when my husband was the chief of our fire department at a PTSD situation with an accident that he had gone to as a rescuer and he went and turned into a whole totally different person .

After he went through that , he ended up getting involved with some drug dealers and my husband was arrested on a federal cannabis conspiracy charge out of Kansas . Now cannabis is legal in California now , but at the time it wasn't even if it wasn't he wouldn't have gone to prison for life but because this was from Kansas , he was facing life in prison .

And so when that happened , essentially I realized that me just having people come into my office and then having them tell me what they hated about their skin and then me trying to help them fix that without addressing anything on the inside .

It just wasn't working for me anymore and so I ended up closing down my spa and my husband built me a beautiful studio here on my property and I started just working with only my top 20% of clients that I knew would really get it and I started incorporating the things from my childhood back into my facials .

At that time I also went to work for the cosmetic formulator who discovered the peptide for the whole entire industry . So I worked for this very famous skincare formulator and I saw behind the curtain of the whole entire industry , which even kind of furthered my passion for breaking down the smoke and mirrors .

Because I'm sure you felt this way and I know your listeners have felt this way . It's like how do you know who's telling the truth with what you hear on the social media or what you see in magazines ?

Because we are so numb to the clinics and the landcombs telling us that this beauty cream is going to give us a 500% increase in the pa , pa , pa , pa , and it's like everything is almost like you can't . Nobody knows what is real , what isn't . So I just made a real . I just made a commitment to that I was going to be real .

Kim Duff Selby

And how long ago was that ?

Amy Wall

It was about 10 years ago and I'll tell you what also happened . And I want to circle back to the Botox thing , because I'm actually not against Botox at all . I think that getting some plastic surgery from somebody who is very artful and conscious , which they are out there , can give a really great result .

But the problem is is that if somebody's self-image and I believe you really work with your inner image quite a bit , but you see , when people have bad results with even injections or plastic surgeries because they haven't worked on their inner self-image , they don't have an idea .

They don't actually know what they want to look like , they just know they want to feel differently . And I wanted to feel differently . So I was getting tons and tons of Botox trying to feel different and I just nobody ever handed me their mirror and said you actually look perfect , you're 42 years old , you don't need anything .

I didn't actually need to get Botox , but I found myself in a plastic surgeon's office getting a consultation to get my eyelids done and I was really just there for a vanity appointment . I wanted that plastic surgeon to tell me there was nothing wrong with me . But she walked in and she handed me a proposal for $7,000 .

And she said my team will be in touch because you're a perfect candidate to have a blepharoplasty . So when that happened is what really happened . I just went what in the actual believe , no . And I stopped doing everything cold turkey and I thought to myself I can always pick it up one day at a time .

But what if I tried all of these techniques that I say I have ? What if I just actually put the pedal to the metal and walked my talk and did it and I never did any injections again after that ?

Kim Duff Selby

Wow , and you are stunning . I mean gorgeous and on your website you have a picture of you before and after . What's the time difference between those 10 years ? You look the same . I mean there's no , but I think the after .

Amy Wall

I have more wrinkles , but I have more energy and yeah , there's , your eyes are lit up .

Kim Duff Selby

I want everybody to go to your website because I think it is really telling . I don't see the wrinkles . I see the spark in your eyes . Yes , I have my spark back .

Amy Wall

And you know and so I teach women how to become their own beauty architects by crafting a real clear , energetic blueprint that your body and being can follow . Because I mean , the science is there , the epigenetics and all the beliefs that are running , all the things are like getting in the way of the results that we can get anyway .

So we have to , like , really craft this blueprint , get rid of the things that aren't working for us anymore , and then , if we have the blueprint and we look in the mirror and go , oh actually , this big wrinkle here that makes me look like I'm concerned all the time when I'm not concerned , get a little Botox , that's great , but you've already done the work to

to decide what you want to look like , and it's not about trying to achieve a feeling state from the outside . Okay , that's the difference .

So from now , if I needed to get some Botox and I wanted it it would be wouldn't be as harmful to me as when I was actually just having a nurse practitioner give it to me for free so that I would refer her my aesthetic comments .

Kim Duff Selby

Well , you're I mean in my mind , an aesthetic coach . I guess I'm a beauty coach . You're a beauty coach . Do you work with individuals then on and not on their beauty routine ? I guess it's on their spark routine ? Is that what ? How you work with people ?

Tell us , give us a little teaser of what you would do with a client if someone comes to you , because you still develop products too right .

Amy Wall

I have my own product line . It's called Timelight Skin Nutrition . It is made by a compounding pharmacist and his family . They make it fresh . It's bio , identical and bio available . It's bar none like in the top 10% of products in the world . It's amazing . However , I couldn't just I couldn't live with myself if I just told people buy this product .

I have to put the other stuff to great cost to me , because women don't necessarily want to be told they are the magic ingredient and it's because there's a self-trust issue , there's all these other things .

But what it looks like if you work with me is we examine where you've been and we look and see what beauty beliefs are running and we go through what was your earliest memory of beauty ? How did your mom feel about herself ? What did your grandmother feel about herself ? How did you feel about yourself as a teenager ?

Because a lot of times our inner teenager is actually running our beauty show . So we look at that and then I craft daily , nightly , weekly and monthly rituals and I teach . I have 12 full length master classes .

I literally am plugged into something and they come out of me like this , but I have all sorts of little easy techniques that you do during the time you're already spending . So this is not like an hour long beauty meditation or anything like that . You do it when you're still in bed , when you're doing the things you're already doing .

I teach you how to take those times and shift those so that you're programming your own beauty frequency , and so then I teach you exactly what products that you need for what you are actually trying to create .

Those might be my products , those might be other people's products , it might be a combination of all of them , but mostly it's really around visibility too , once you get into it , because how we face the world like it's how to face the world , yeah it's really interesting the way you do that because of course my mind , as everybody who's listening , male or female

yes , I have mostly female listeners , but I have a couple of male listeners .

Kim Duff Selby

I know of some I don't obviously my mind automatically went back to when I was a little girl and then when I was a teenager . And when I was a little girl I kind of got freckles immediately because I lived in Florida . So you're always out and really frizzy , curly blonde hair and people coming up to me saying , oh , where'd you get those beautiful curls ?

And me at three or four , my mother would say God gave them to her , god gave them to you . You know , but and then you , you , fortunately for me , I felt somewhat confident as a little girl because everybody commented on me and told me how cute I was . I was like okay .

But then we hit teenage years and me being , you know , a decade older than you , the fashion was long , straight hair and I had a boof head , you know . I had like a blonde afro and I did the juice boxes and I did everything can't not boxes , juice cans to try and straighten my hair and I really felt less than I mean I really did .

You know the freckles and the hair that was was the hair that was mostly . And I can see we are all trauma informed , especially as you go through puberty . I mean , how many people escape unscathed ?

Amy Wall

not many , right , right , and I think what you brought up was just so relevant , because think about all of the , the teenagers right now . And I have a . It hasn't really gotten off the ground yet , but it's called Teen Clean and Esteem .

It will be a , it's a foundation and a scholarship idea that I will , you know , I'll funnel a lot of love to teenagers because I just I find that they , I love them .

But so let's talk about what I said before , when aesthetics and beauty aren't the same thing , but what we get taught is we have to fit into these molds , otherwise we can't belong , and that's just , and that's in ourselves , that's in our , that's our mitochondria , that is like you know , it's like a survival thing .

But in fact we can't like put all of these different colors , shapes , sizes , hair textures into one beauty standard . And beauty standards really need to die frankly , no , absolutely , it's .

Kim Duff Selby

So much is programming . So and in and now . I feel so badly for the young girls coming up , because if they don't look like the TikTok star that they love , then of course they're going to do something there's . I know people are starting procedures a lot younger than they used to , how we transition and change the world .

You know people like you are making it well known , but we still have social media .

Amy Wall

You know my thing is a slow burn and people aren't coming out of the woodwork . That's why I want you know , that's why being on podcasts is so important to me to share my message , because fantasy Is still really big , you know , and we want to be , we want to .

We don't want to learn a bunch of stuff and we're on tiktok , we want to just scroll and we want a painkiller . We don't necessarily want a vitamin , so it is . I think it's just little by little and , having these conversations , the girls are getting Botox as early as 20 . The they call it baby Botox now and they are selling it as a preventative .

And the problem with all of this is that the earlier you start getting injections , less You're going to be able to do later on . So getting a little Botox now and you know , in your stage of life , it's like great , you could do whatever you'd like .

But if you're getting it when you're 20 , you're literally going to lose your musk muscle tone and there will be . You wouldn't be able to get a facelift if you wanted to . Now I'm going to be getting a facelift . If I want to , I'll be doing whatever I want to do . But these girls that are doing it so young .

They're really limiting their ability to have anything else done and actually the Botox stops working after a while .

Kim Duff Selby

Yeah , Well , you know , I'm 66 . I just started .

Amy Wall

Yeah , so that's what I'm saying is it's , you know , it's a tool , it can be a cosmetic for you . But when people see their stress lines and they see , oh gosh , you know , I'm starting to see Visible stress on my skin , I know I'll go get a little Botox , that's .

That's kind of the the thing , um , but the problem with treating your stress lines with Botox is that you're still stressed .

Kim Duff Selby

Right . So what you do is uncover the stressors and hopefully Change the pattern , reprogram , help us reprogram our minds , just as we would if we had any limiting beliefs around money or limiting beliefs around anything . I think it's really sad because I think of my friends who are not Confident , and they will .

Sometimes people will say you have so much energy , you're so exuberant , and I'm Feel I'm blessed To have that as my personality . But I also really see beauty in everyone , and even when they don't see it in themselves , and I love what you are doing because I am trying to do that . I use my tiktok as a you are never too old too .

Yeah , because how can we encourage people ? There is something beautiful about every woman . Yeah , we get wrinkles . Yeah , hello , we're alive . I mean , that's just like a fact of living . And I don't know .

I mean obviously we're spreading the message through you right now , amy , pulling everybody that there is a way , and I assume you've had a lot of success stories with the people with whom you've .

Amy Wall

Oh , yeah , I've had a lot of success stories . I mean , I can change somebody's life in just one conversation , so certainly there's a lot of success stories , um , and . But the success isn't necessarily that . You know , they came out on the other side and they don't have any more wrinkles .

Though if you read the reviews on my skincare products , they say over and over and over oh my gosh , I had instant results on this . But you know , if you look back on when I was getting all of the procedures , I had perfect skin . So we can have perfect skin and still feel like we're running out of value .

But the thing is is that I've coined a term called the downward beauty value spiral and women , and because this is so much less about Botox or anything , it's about aging , and it's about women aging and feeling like every year We've gotten a little bit less valuable to society and that we're becoming invisible , which I think you already know .

It's like you know it's . It's just , you can be as visible as you want to be , but make sure you're visible to yourself . Um , and , yeah , you're do . I love tiktok , by the way . It's my favorite social media platform , because women are craving older women . Younger women are craving older women to look up to .

I mean this 33 year old that I that has 45 000 followers . She's a visibility coach . She reached out to me and just said I just I want you to be my mentor . I , I want to learn from you . Thank you for owning your age , thank you for showing me a different way .

And this is somebody who was in Also not a sex worker , necessarily , but somebody who was in the high end bottle service nightclub , you know , beautiful arm candy business . And she said you know , I'm just surrounded by women who they're spending $10,000 at the med spot every quarter and we're just feeling like we're aged out when we're 27 years old .

Oh , so us showing up and shining as older , older , whatever age older is , because you could be 40 and feel old and be older than someone else . It's really important that we show up and share that . Hey , life gets really , really good .

Kim Duff Selby

Yeah , I just did an underwear commercial . So , yeah , you can at any age . I think my thing is more at any age , you can do whatever you want , and I think if someone can Embrace that and then work with someone such as yourself who can help them uncover what it was that created this , I'm not good enough , because that's clearly what we feel , you know .

I'm not good enough because I have all the wrinkles , or because my mother said you need to lose weight , or because , because , because the programming that we have received throughout the years , I just think it is so vitally important that everyone embrace their inner beauty . I do , and I love that you are assisting us in bringing it out .

Oh , I've been willing to ask our is part of what you do , mantras so that people are repeating them , or it's actual exercises ?

Amy Wall

I do have a one minute mirror Ritual that I'll teach you really quick . You look in the mirror when you apply your skincare product in the morning , in the evening , you hold eye contact with yourself in the mirror , you tap your product on with intention and you Say an I am statement , um .

For the inner , for an interstate I am focused , I am secure , I am confident , whatever one is resonating . And then one for the outer I am radiant , I am beautiful , but I am . It's not really an affirmation , it's actually a divine presence . So really inviting I am , I am that , I am , I already . Am that really aligning with the divine ? I am .

So I do teach that . But the other things I teach are a visualization process called the magic mirror room , where you create a room of your higher self and your beauty muse . I connect you with your beauty muse , others an eye and hand activation . There is all sorts of scintuitive massage that I teach on how to do .

I have an energetic wrinkle release massage technique . So it's all stuff that you do in the mirror while touching yourself , and not necessarily mantras . But yeah , just Affirmations maybe . Yeah not even yeah , not really so much affirmations , but more of it's sort of a visualization , energetic connection technique with some affirmations .

Kim Duff Selby

What did you call it ? Visualization energetic energetic connection .

Amy Wall

So my three pillars of the higher self beauty effect , which I guess you could call it I also call it the bright rights , so it's rights and rituals , right . The first pillar is skin intelligence . So really understanding how your skin is part of your expiratory system and your skin is actually the computer screen of your whole entire body .

It's sending messages to you , learning to speak the love language of your skin . So skin intelligence , the self image . I use a lot of Maxwell Maltz psychosebrenetics work . He was a plastic surgeon from the 60s who discovered that our self image is actually a servomechanism or thermostat . It is set it and forget it .

So I help , you know , get in to the self image with visualization and then energetic illumination . So I have everything from these Scalar , lightwave massage tools , microcurrents , led lights . So I essentially teach it as an award winning aesthetic and also I teach my clients how to be their own energetic beauty expert .

And then if they go out and get facials and different things , that's just gravy , that's just the cherry on the top , but they're taking ultimate responsibility for deep and skin to messy they're really , because you know how many . Okay , here's one thing Over my years 20 years of being an esthetician .

I can't tell you how many times a woman in her 50s came to me , sat down and when I said you know what brings you here today ? What big result would you like to create with me ? She says you know , for the last 10 years I was raising my kids and doing my career and taking care of my husband act , act , act . And I stopped looking in the mirror .

And then , after everybody moved out of the house , I got the divorce , the career change or whatever . I looked in the mirror and I didn't recognize who I see , who I saw . So I teach women to create a connection with themselves on an inner reflection and their outer reflection , and then all of the tools along the way .

Kim Duff Selby

Well , that's a perfect place to end our podcast today . Wow , Amy , I am really blessed . I feel a little younger just after our conversation . And where can people find ?

Amy Wall

you . I am HireselfBeautycom , or at theskintessa on Instagram and TikTok .

Kim Duff Selby

I'll write all of that down below . Of course , I really appreciate it . And products are important , right ? Yeah , they are Self image and creating that inner spark .

Amy Wall

Yeah , that's really important , the most important , that's the most important . Yeah , yeah .

Kim Duff Selby

Yeah , thank you . Thank you , amy . I really , really value your time and appreciate your inner beauty , and thank you . And to all of these beautiful sparklers out there , know that both Amy and I see you see the beauty within you , no matter your age , because it's really that spark inside that is the most important , the most vital thing to help you feel great .

So I hope you all go out and ignite your spark . Hey friends , thank you so much for tuning in . Once again , I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I did , and I'm already trying the products and love them .

And for all of you local people , I'm hoping to have Amy come to my house in October for a women's wellness afternoon so you too can learn how to improve your skin from the inside out . I love her message .

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