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Husband Material

So you want to outgrow porn. But how? How do you change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship? Welcome to Husband Material with Drew Boa, where we answer all these questions and more! Each episode makes it easier for you to achieve lasting freedom from porn—without fighting an exhausting battle. Porn is a pacifier. This podcast will help you outgrow it and become a sexually mature man of God.

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Episodes

Shame & Sexuality (with Dr. Curt Thompson)

What is shame? How does evil use shame against us, and what does healing look like? Dr. Curt Thompson explores shame through the lens of Scripture, neuroscience, and spiritual formation in community. Stay until the end to hear how Jesus meets us in our shame. What a beautiful conversation! Dr. Curt Thompson is a compassionate psychiatrist who weaves together an understanding of interpersonal neurobiology (IPNB) and a Christian view of what it means to be human. Through Curt's workshops, books, p...

Jul 07, 202549 min

How to Safely Process Your Sexual Fantasies

Are you afraid that processing your sexual fantasies might lead to a relapse? Do you have concerns based on your understanding of the Bible? Does your wife have concerns? In this episode, you'll hear three reasons why processing your sexual fantasies can feel threatening, and what it looks like to do this work safely. Register now for the Sexual Fantasy Workshop: HMA In A Day (Saturday, July 12) at husbandmaterial.com/workshop Examples of safely processing sexual fantasies: Unburdening Sexual Ar...

Jun 30, 202521 min

How To Stay Porn-Free During Trips And Vacations (with Jake Kastleman)

Do you find yourself more susceptible to sexual temptation while traveling? Jake Kastleman helps you prepare to for the challenges of trips, vacations, and other disruptions to your daily routine—especially during the summer. You'll get tips on setting healthy expectations, creating structure while letting go of perfectionism, and preventing relapse. Jake Kastleman is a porn addiction recovery coach and the founder of No More Desire . He holds a degree in Psychology from Utah Valley University. ...

Jun 23, 202541 min

Same-Sex Attraction, Porn, Marriage, and Jesus (with Christy and Mark Summers)

When one person has a history of same-sex attraction and another has a history of relying on porn, how is a Christ-centered marriage possible? Christy and Mark Summers tell their incredible story, both individually and as a couple. Christy and Mark Summers are the co-founders of Redeemed Seasons Ministries, where they care for and support Christian men and women seeking healing and wholeness through Jesus in their relationships, their identity, and their sexuality. Christy and Mark offer one-on-...

Jun 16, 202541 min

The Sexual Development Model (SDM): A New Perspective on Unwanted Sexual Attraction

Do you feel confused or overwhelmed by trying to understand unwanted sexual attraction from a Christian perspective? In this episode, you'll hear the strengths and limitations of Side A, Side B, Side X, Side Y—and a new perspective on unwanted sexual attraction: the Sexual Development Model (SDM). Download the Sexual Development Model chart at https://husbandmaterial.com/sdm Referenced in this episode: Differing Views on Christian Doctrine, Identity, and Homosexuality by Jason Thompson (chart) T...

Jun 09, 20251 hr 18 min

How Breathwork Can Help You Outgrow Porn (with Burke Atkerson)

What is breathwork and how can it help you outgrow porn? Burke Atkerson masterfully explains the value of breathwork by drawing from Christian spirituality, neuroscience, and powerful personal experiences. If you stay until the end, you'll learn an extremely effective breathing technique called the physiological sigh. I loved this episode and I know you will, too. Burke Atkerson is the founder of Fire Nights and Men Fully Alive . He is an author, coach, and breathwork instructor—as well as a rec...

Jun 02, 202544 min

Seen, Safe, And Soothed (with Burke Atkerson)

In this episode, Burke Atkerson tells his story. You'll hear how he sexualized the need to be seen, safe, and soothed—and nearly burned down his marriage. In the ashes, Burke finally found the community that he didn't realize he needed. Fire Nights is his response to the loneliness epidemic plaguing men. Burke Atkerson is the founder of Fire Nights and Men Fully Alive . He is an author, coach, and breathwork instructor—as well as a recovering addict, a failed missionary, and an undeserving husba...

May 26, 202528 min

Twenty Benefits Of Running Or Walking

Learn twenty ways running or walking can help you outgrow porn. I’m super passionate about this! Join Husband Material on Strava for encouragement and motivation to exercise: https://strava.app.link/Se2l3eYhuTb What are you doing this Saturday? Come to our free workshop! Register now for HMA In A Day at husbandmaterial.com/workshop Support the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: T...

May 19, 202521 min

What Does It Mean To Objectify Yourself? (with Sam Jolman)

What does it mean to objectify yourself? Sam Jolman explains objectification, why and how we objectify ourselves, and what healing and repentance can look like. Sam Jolman (MA, LPC) is a trauma therapist with over twenty years of experience specializing in men’s issues and sexual trauma recovery. His writing flows out of this unique opportunity to help people know and heal their stories, and find greater sexual wholeness and aliveness. He received his master’s in counseling from Reformed Theolog...

May 12, 202531 min

The Problematic Sexual Behavior Framework (with Bill Herring)

What is problematic sexual behavior (PSB)? Bill Herring, creator of the PSB Framework, explains the history behind this important concept—and how it can help men outgrowing porn. Bill Herring (LCSW, CSAT) is a psychotherapist who has influenced the development of sex addiction theory and practice over the past 30 years. In 2019, Bill received the annual "Carnes Award" from the Society for the Advancement of Sexual Health (SASH) for his overall contributions to the field of problematic sexual beh...

May 05, 202547 min

Sexual Symptoms Of Enmeshment

What is enmeshment? How and why does mother enmeshment set men up to struggle with porn? In this episode, you'll learn ten sexual symptoms of enmeshment and how to outgrow it. Resources mentioned in this episode (including paid links): Silently Seduced: When Parents Make Their Children Partners , by Ken Adams (book) When He's Married To Mom: How to Help Mother-Enmeshed Men Open Their Hearts to True Love and Commitment , by Ken Adams (book) Healing With My Parents (the podcast episode where I int...

Apr 28, 202532 min

From Shame to Identity in Christ (with Ken Freire)

Hear Ken Freire's story of healing from childhood sexual abuse, achieving lasting freedom from porn, and finding joy and purpose in Christ. Ken Freire owns Scriptures.blog and hosts the Shame(less) Podcast . Ken has been helping Christian men break free from addiction and reclaim their purpose for the last 15 years. Through his own journey of overcoming abuse, shame, and embracing God’s grace, he aims to equip others with biblical wisdom and practical tools for lasting transformation. He's been ...

Apr 21, 202535 min

The Marriage You Want (with Sheila Wray Gregoire)

What determines marital satisfaction more than sex or money? What if "compromise" actually makes things worse? How do you create a marriage you love? Sheila Wray Gregoire unpacks the results of her latest research with thousands of married couples, calling out harmful evangelical teachings and sharing a surprising new data on what it takes to build the marriage you want. Buy Sheila's new book: The Marriage You Want: Moving beyond Stereotypes for a Relationship Built on Scripture, New Data, and E...

Apr 14, 202534 min

The Five Circles Of Freedom From Porn

What's your plan for outgrowing porn? The Five Circles tool will help you define what freedom looks like, why it matters, and how to set yourself up for success. Download the Five Circles Of Freedom worksheet at husbandmaterial.com/freedom Mentioned in this episode: Tools For Healing: The Three Circles (blog) Staci Sprout (creator of the Five Circles Model) How To Reframe A Porn Relapse (podcast episode) Unwanted, by Jay Stringer (book; paid link) The Five Circles Of Freedom (worksheet) What are...

Apr 07, 202515 min

How To Protect Women (with Dr. Andrew Bauman)

How can men protect women instead of complying with sexism and abuse? Dr. Andrew Bauman shares the results of his research with over 2,800 Christian women, and what men need to hear in order to advocate for change in our churches and communities. Dr. Andrew J. Bauman is the founder and director of the Christian Counseling Center: For Sexual Health & Trauma (CCC) and has served as a mental health counselor. Also formerly a pastor, Andrew now works with men and women to bring healing and whole...

Mar 31, 202539 min

Am I An Abusive Man? (with Dr. Andrew Bauman)

Am I abusive? How can I acknowledge the truth without beating myself up? What makes a good and safe man? Dr. Andrew Bauman explains two ways to be abusive, the difference between humility and self-hatred, and how to express clean anger and fight fair. Dr. Andrew J. Bauman is the founder and director of the Christian Counseling Center: For Sexual Health & Trauma (CCC) and has served as a mental health counselor. Also formerly a pastor, Andrew now works with men and women to bring healing and ...

Mar 24, 202527 min

How Does God Really Feel About Me? (LIVE)

When I watch porn, when I relapse, when I wander, when I make mistakes... in the middle of my sin, how does God really feel about me? Resources mentioned in this episode: Inheritance: Message by Graham Cooke (video) God Has A Name , by John Mark Comer (book; paid link) How Jesus Reverses The Curse (podcast) Here are a few of the Bible passages we talked about: Matthew 3:13-4:11 John 15:9 Romans 5:8 1 John 2:1 Psalm 103 Luke 15 What are you doing this Saturday? Come to our free workshop! Register...

Mar 17, 202542 min

Building True Intimacy (with Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith)

What are the building blocks of a healthy relationship? In this episode, Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith reveal the "Intimacy Pyramid" of what is required for trust and intimacy—especially for couples healing from sexual betrayal. Get wisdom from two people who rebuilt their marriage after porn almost destroyed it. Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith are clinicians, speakers, and authors of the book Building True Intimacy: Creating a Connection that Stands the Test of Time (paid link). They have over 20 y...

Mar 10, 202533 min

Why Do I Struggle With Emotional Connection? (with Dr. Eddie Capparucci)

Why do I feel so disconnected from other people...and myself? In this episode, Dr. Eddie Capparucci unpacks the reasons why many men struggle to emotionally connect. You'll learn about the talker, the fixer, the thinker, the nice guy, "Mr. Right," the runner, the distractor, and the flopper. Mark your calendar for Drew and Eddie's upcoming workshop: Emotional Connection Workshop For Men Friday April 11, 2025 (replays available) Learn more and register now here. https://drew-boa.mykajabi.com/work...

Mar 03, 202535 min

The Power Of First Mention In Sex Education

When did you first hear the word "sex" or "porn" or "masturbation"? The first time you ever hear a word has a disproportionate impact. This is called the power of first mention, and it is an extremely important principle for sex education. Related resources and episodes: TheSexTalk.com (online course for parents) Having The Talks: A Guided Conversation Game On Sexuality For Parents And Children (paid link) How To Teach Children About Sexuality (with Adam and Karissa King) How To Talk With Your K...

Feb 24, 202512 min

How To Be Vulnerable: Scratches, Scabs, And Scars (with Henry Brown)

Most of us were never taught how to be vulnerable when we’re sexually struggling. In this episode, Henry Brown shares a simple framework called “scratches, scabs, and scars” to help you decide what to share, when to share, how much to share, and who to trust. Henry Brown is the Director Of Operations & Support at Husband Material. He is nationally certified as a Life Coach, Recovery Coach, and Sex Addiction Coach. Henry is also a Certified Husband Material Coach. Learn more at henrybrown.net...

Feb 17, 202523 min

Porn And Narcissistic Personality Disorder (with Dr. Alexandra Repke)

What is narcissistic personality disorder, and how does it interact with porn and sex addiction? For someone with NPD or narcissistic traits, what does healing and growth look like? Dr. Alexandra Repke (CSAT, EMDR, C-PD) is a Christian psychologist who typically work with successful professionals facing challenges in their relationships or careers, often stemming from issues related to addiction, personality, or trauma. She is a lifelong learner, committed to understanding the complexities of me...

Feb 10, 202531 min

Three Problems With Bouncing Your Eyes

What if Every Man’s Battle is wrong? In this episode, I share how I recently chose to “bounce my eyes” (as Every Man’s Battle teaches) and why I later regretted it. You’ll learn 3 reasons why bouncing your eyes is problematic—and what you can do instead when you see a sexually attractive person or picture. Related Episodes: When You Get An Erection... What To Do When You See Attractive People Outgrowing Porn vs. Purity Culture What are you doing this Saturday? Come to our free workshop! Register...

Feb 03, 202529 min

How To Guard Against Sextortion (with Chris McKenna)

What is sextortion, and how can we guard against it? Chris McKenna shares the dark reality of sextortion, why men (especially young men) are most vulnerable to being sextorted, and what we can do to prevent it. For more information, read this article: What Is Sextortion? A Prevention And Response Guide For Families Chris McKenna is the founder of Protect Young Eyes. He is a leading digital safety advocate, advising legislators and emerging tech companies. His impactful 2019 testimony before the ...

Jan 27, 202532 min

What Your Wife Needs When You Relapse (with Tammy Gustafson)

What does your wife need when you relapse into porn, unwanted sexual behavior, and breaking her trust? Tammy Gustafson explains what is going on inside your wife when you relapse, how you can helpful rather than hurtful, and why it's wise for your wife to have a relapse safety plan. Tammy Gustafson is the founder of the Betrayal Healing Conference . This free conference is for all women who have experienced sexual betrayal, whether you just found out about his acting out, your relationship is he...

Jan 20, 202526 min

Compassion For My Face: HMA Psychodrama Example

In this live demo, Doug Carpenter guides Rick Carlson in healing childhood trauma through psychodrama. This episode is an example of Work It Out Wednesday, one of the weekly HMA Coaching Calls. Learn more and join HMA this weekend at joinHMA.com . Related episodes: Experience Healing Through Psychodrama A Story Of Healing Through Psychodrama Dr. Doug Carpenter is a clinical psychologist and founding board member of Husband Material Ministries. Learn more at douglascarpenter.com Rick Carlson is a...

Jan 16, 20251 hr 8 min

Understanding External & Internal Family Systems To Outgrow Porn

Learn how external & internal family systems have shaped your sexuality—and what's happening inside you when you feel the pull of pornography. This episode was recorded at "HMA In A Day" as a preview of the Husband Material Academy video course. Watch the video here . What are you doing this Saturday? Come to our free workshop! Register now for HMA In A Day at husbandmaterial.com/workshop Support the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube...

Jan 13, 202541 min

The Guy In The Locker Room: HMA Fantasy Friday Example

In this episode, Drew Boa helps Jordan Castille process a sexual fantasy about a guy in a locker room. This is a demonstration of Fantasy Friday, one of the weekly HMA Coaching Calls. Learn more and join HMA this week at joinHMA.com . Drew Boa is the founder of Husband Material. He is a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional, Inner Child Recovery Specialist, Brainspotting Practitioner, and Certified Husband Material Coach. Jordan Castille is a Board Certified Christian Counselor, Certified Clinical...

Jan 09, 202545 min

How To Face Your Sexual Fantasies: Arousal vs. Desire

Learn how to face your sexual fantasies and process the particularity of what sexually arouses you. This episode was recorded at "HMA In A Day" as a preview of the Husband Material Academy video course. What are you doing this Saturday? Come to our free workshop! Register now for HMA In A Day at husbandmaterial.com/workshop Support the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: Take the ...

Jan 06, 202543 min

New Stats On Porn Use Among Christians (with Nick Stumbo)

75% of Christian men and 40% of Christian women watch porn on a regular basis, but only 21% wish they didn't. Nick Stumbo shares these stats and other major findings of Beyond The Porn Phenomenon, a new research report produced by Barna and Pure Desire Ministries. Nick Stumbo is the Executive Director of Pure Desire Ministries and host of the Pure Desire Podcast. He's also the author of Setting Us Free: An Unexpected Journey Of Grace and Safe: Creating A Culture Of Grace In A Climate Of Shame . ...

Dec 30, 202436 min
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