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Husband in Law

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Welcome to Husband In Law! We’re Jessica, Matt, and Steve, and we’re here to share our unconventional journey through love, marriage, divorce, coming out, and remarriage. Together, we’ve built a unique and harmonious co-parenting relationship that challenges societal and religious norms, proving that self-love, acceptance, and kindness can transform even the hardest situations.

In this podcast, we’ll dive into honest conversations about relationships, family, and personal growth. We’ll tackle tough topics with humor, vulnerability, and hope, sharing what we’ve learned along the way. If you’re ready to embrace love and acceptance in your own life, we’re here to inspire you. Let’s rewrite the rules together!

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Episodes

I'd Mourn That

This week we are talking about the process of mourning a relationship. It can look many different ways and can hit us at the most random times. We share how it looked for Steve and me to mourn our relationship, and how it was for Matt to mourn his relationship with Ann. Steve also shares about something he is currently mourning and then Matt compares it to a parking lot... Which leads to the question... is there a parking spot that you are leaving open for someone who maybe doesn't deserve that ...

Oct 12, 202234 minEp. 159

Fell On My Face

Was it embarrassment? Or was it a catalyst for change? Maybe it was both… Today we are talking about the moments that change us. Sometimes they come at unexpected times and in unexpected places… Have you ever had one? Share it with us on Instagram or email jessica@theboldlogic.com. Today is the day! If you have had a partner come out don’t miss out on the LAST FREE workshop of the year that is made specifically for YOU. You are not alone. Whether you decide to stay together or separate, you can ...

Oct 05, 202225 minEp. 158

The ABCs of Emotional Cleaning

Someone is missing from this episode but YOU will not want to miss out on these insights into the ABCs of emotional cleaning. Are you an emotional cleaner? (This is not what you think it is...) And I can't wait to hear your insights into what emotional cleaning looks like for you. Also! If you have a question for us or a topic you would like us to cover on the pod, please respond to this email with your question. The three of us will be recording in the next couple of days and we would love to k...

Sep 28, 202221 minEp. 157

We Have an Answer for That

We're back! This week we have a special treat for you. It is a live Q&A where we answer some of your most pressing questions. Have a question of your own? Don't hesitate to reach out to us on Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/husband_in_law/ ) or send us an email jessica@theboldlogic.com and we will be sure to get it answered on an upcoming episode. Are you a woman who has had a partner come out? Then this is for you. https://theboldlogic.com/freeworkshop Want to be the first to know whe...

Sep 21, 202259 minEp. 156

Denial At It's Best [Replay]

In this episode, Jessica, and Steve will talk about their first year of marriage, having a blast in college. Jessica will then share the story of how she came upon Steve’s gay porn on the computer while he was away at work. Steve hadn’t yet come to terms with the fact that he was gay, and he was devastated by Jessica’s discovery. They will share all that transpired after that and it’s going to be an interesting story, so don’t miss it. Live Event Invite List! Tickets will be for sale for one day...

Aug 17, 202247 minEp. 155

Gay Pride [Replay]

In this episode, Matt, Jessica, and Steve will talk about the Boise Gay Pride Festival and what their experiences were. Steve will dive into being deeply involved in organizing the different pride festivals that have been held in the past and all the challenges they go through. The three of them, with Steve’s guidance, will then demystify the societal misconceptions about so much relating to the LGBTQ Plus community, and talk about how amazing gay pride events really are. Live Event Tickets! htt...

Aug 03, 202249 minEp. 154

Sliquid Nitrogen? [Replay]

In this episode, Stephanie May (we mentioned her in the last episode. Remember?) comes on to talk about how she introduced Steve and Jessica to each other. Steph will ask Steve and Jessica a range of questions just to get a better understanding of what really happened that led to their eventual divorce. It’s gonna be a hilarious one. You won’t wanna miss it. Retreat registration is open! Payment option available until July 25th! Claim your ticket at http:/theboldlogic.com/retreat Get your FREE C...

Jul 20, 202248 minEp. 153

Cat Shoes And A Cake Fight [Replay]

So, how did Steve and Jessica even meet in the first place?! In this episode, Steve and Jessica will dive into how they met and how their relationship developed - ultimately leading to their marriage. Through deliberate effort by Steve (he was admittedly intrigued by Jessica), they met back in college, and the story of how they got to the point where they got married and honeymooned in Victor, Idaho, is both funny and amazing, so you won’t wanna miss it. Curious about the cat shoes?! You'll need...

Jul 06, 202245 minEp. 152

Before The Relationsh*t [Replay]

Getting to know you, Getting to know all about you... 🎶🎵🎶 Where did this crazy story begin and who the heck are Jessica, Matt, and Steve? Great question and today you are going to get to hear how this all began so many many many years ago, in a land far far away. Or something like that... Show that you are an ally while educating yourself and those in your home... And without flying a rainbow flag, unless you want to! Pick on the Love BOLDly Coloring Book. Available during Pride month only! S...

Jun 22, 202244 minEp. 151

Oklahoma [Replay]

This was the time of the most turmoil and stress in Jessica and Steve's marriage. It was the breaking point. Steve had an affair with a man in hopes that it would shut down the gay side of himself, but the reality was quite the opposite. As with everything in their relationship, they put everything out on the table and discussed how they could move on from this. The problem was, neither of them knew how it was possible and they walked around for weeks like emotional zombies. This all came to a h...

Jun 08, 202246 minEp. 150

One Bad Egg

We have some big announcements in this episode and we are excited about all of them. Plus we share a few of the things you (our listeners) said you would never do but are currently doing. It spurs quite the conversation... Want to learn gay terms without having to do an awkward google search? Check out the Loving BOLDly Coloring Book. Pride month is right around the corner and there is no better way to start celebrating than by picking up the Loving BOLDly Coloring Book. Buy a couple for your fr...

May 25, 202246 minEp. 149

Please Continue...

Doing things because someone told us that is what we should do does not motivate us to do what is best for us. Understanding the why behind our decisions is where true joy comes from in life. Today we continue our conversation about doing things we said we would never do... And this week Steve is opening up about some of his biggest ones... Need something to look forward to this summer that is JUST FOR YOU without have to do any of the planning?! May 18th (the day this episode drops!) is the las...

May 18, 202238 minEp. 148

Things I Said I Would Never Do...

You know those things you said you would NEVER do and sometimes even judged others for doing but you do them now?! Yeah, we have a few of those too. We will share some of ours, have a personal coaching session with Steve, and discuss why it is important to recognize when and why we are judging others... Share with us something YOU said you would never do but very much do now. We would love to hear it! Send us a voice message or written DM on Instagram for the chance to be featured on an upcoming...

May 11, 202251 minEp. 147

Sparkle

What is something you have always wanted to wear but felt it wasn't socially acceptable?What is your dream career and what is holding you back from going for it? What about your life isn't in alignment with who YOU really want to be? With who you FEEL CALLED to be? Today we are diving into some of these questions for ourselves and what we have done to be more "Us". We hope it will leave you inspired to be more YOU! Want to know the easiest way to start diving into being BOLDly You?! Pick up a BO...

May 04, 202244 minEp. 146

Letting Jess Go

I cried as I wrote out the title of this episode. Today we are answering two questions that you all sent in and I will admit, it was a little heavy. To those who are in the thick of it, please know we feel for you. We are here for you. We know this is hard and we are sending you love in all the ways we can. Also, if you have a question, comment, or insight for us please send it over! We will be answering them on the fourth Wednesday of each month. You can DM a voice message on Instagram or send ...

Apr 27, 202241 minEp. 145

More Lingerie Please

Who wants more JOY?! I LOVE Joy! Here are some questions we are going to dive into this week: How do you find joy in your life? What are ways you used to find joy but don't any more? What new things have you tried that bring you joy that you didn't think would bring you joy?How do the people in your life impact your joy? What are things you want more of in your life?! (Listen as Steve get's real uncomfortable with Matt's answer.) Mark your calendar! Group Coaching will be opening up next WEEK fr...

Apr 20, 202255 minEp. 144

Sometimes You have to Laugh

Today's guest and I have a couple things in common. One being that we love finding joy where we can in life, even when going through hard things. One thing that is different about us is that Lisa Valentine Clark is witty and funny. I have occasional moments of being funny but I am definitely not witty. Lisa is so incredibly witty and funny her life's work centers around this. My friend, if you are going through something hard, please do not miss today's episode. Lisa has been through the hard an...

Apr 13, 202245 minEp. 143

Steve's Fired

You may know my ex-husband (Steve) has worked for my husband (Matt) for the last year and a half... 😅 But that recently ended... 👊🏻Were punches thrown?😭Were feelings hurt? 🤬Were profanities used? You are about to find out. #coparents #cohosts #coworkers #cohusbands #codads #theydoitall Pick up the latest version of the BOLDology Journal today! There are just a few left so don't wait to get yours before this batch runs out! theboldlogic.com/boldjournal Be a part of the show! Leave us a voice...

Mar 30, 202231 minEp. 142

Happy Birthday!

Have you ever struggled with your birthday? Been disappointed? Felt overlooked? Under appreciated? Then this episode is for you. This is your last chance! It will not be back until fall. Tonight is the FREE workshop "Move from Numbing to Healing After a Spouse Comes Out WITHOUT Giving up the things YOU LOVE About Your Relationship." You can claim your seat at theboldlogic.com/freeworkshop ------- Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook ! -- You can find the podcast on Apple , Google , Spo...

Mar 23, 202231 minEp. 141

Co-Parenting Compadres

Do you think of your co-parent as a comparde? A companion? These are the words that the guys used to describe us on this week's episode of the pod and now I am seriously considering changing the name of our podcast and our Instagram. What do you think? BUT DO NOT BE FOOLED by the title of this episode! This week we talking pronouns, queer terminology, co-parenting, and then back to our theme this month, second marriage. I don't know how we got it all into one episode, but I guess we are just tha...

Mar 16, 202243 minEp. 140

Kimberly Rose

This week we have a special guest for you! And she is going to introduce herself right here, right now. Hey there! I’m Kim and I’m a work-from-home mom, stepmom, and wife. My husband Jack and I live in Central Florida with our three kids. I have my Masters degree in Behavior Analysis and have been a board-certified behavior analyst for over 15 years. About 2 years ago, I started writing and sharing my blended family stories through Instagram publicly, however before that I was posting privately ...

Mar 09, 202242 minEp. 139

Mawwiage. Second Mawwiage is what...

"Mawwiage. Mawwiage is what bwings us togeder today. Mawwiage, that bwessed awwangement, that dweam wifin a dream…" Yes our bishop that married us used this quote to start our marriage but that wasn't the only surprising thing about the beginning of Matt's and mine marriage. It was a rough ride from for the first few years. And you know what the crazy thing is? The only time Matt and I talk to each other about what those first years were like are here on the podcast. We never discuss it outside ...

Mar 02, 202254 minEp. 138

The Hair Sample

Ever wonder what it is like to give your "sample" on the side of the road under extreme pressure? Yeah, Steve doesn't either. Things really went off the rails during this episode. Somehow we started talking about cars and things just went downhill from there. Does downhill refer to things going well or going bad? Maybe the episode went uphill? I don't know, you will have to decide for yourself as we throw it way back to some entertaining stories from Jessica and Steve's marriage. Pick up the lat...

Feb 23, 202237 minEp. 137

Self Care is Selfish

This week our Dear Listener Episode is for everyone and there is homework... Let's talk more about self-care, why it really isn't selfish, and what that actually means for you. Did you know there are at least 6 types of self-care?! We are going to dive into what they are and how you can utilize them in your life. What area are you lacking? Where could you dive into some more self-care? Link Time Study and Self Care Assessment Sheet https://theboldlogic.com/selfcare Pick up the latest version of ...

Feb 16, 202239 minEp. 136

I feel... I fear...

Are you ready to heal from betrayal trauma? This week's guest can help you do just that! Ashlynn Mitchell runs multiple of her own businesses while momming 2 tween girls as a single mom. She co-hosted the top 10 podcast, The Betrayed, The Addicted & The Expert & now shares on her new podcast, This Is Ashlynn. She coaches women to thrive after betrayal through a group setting & an online program. With her real-world example of what’s possible after betrayal & how to live boldly wi...

Feb 09, 202241 minEp. 135

Run Until You Cry

This episode was one we needed and we hope that it will be a good reminder for you too. We needed the reminder that taking time for ourselves isn't selfish. Most of the time it is the exact opposite. By putting time into ourselves we are healing ourselves. Which allows us to, in turn, be more intentional about our time with others. This will all make more sense once you start listening. I want you to know that while we share so much of the good (and the hard) of the past and much of the good in ...

Feb 02, 202239 minEp. 134

Story Not Worth Telling

Today we share a story NOT WORTH TELLING. 😅 What can we say, not everything can be a homerun. 🤷‍♀️ Let us know what you think of this week's episode. If you haven't yet, please leave us a rating, review, and share with a friend that might enjoy the podcast! This is the cheapest and easiest way you can support us on this journey AND help others who might be looking for our message. Thanks for being here! Episode 90 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pennys-baptism/id1464470280?i=100050952215...

Jan 26, 202234 minEp. 133

Divorcing Wife

Have you ever had a moment when you see how things have been and are working for your good? We share a story about one of those moments to start this week's episode off on the right foot. Then we dive into the Dear Listener topic of the week. While we are not experts we have learned a thing or two about this week's topic. 😅 As always, we encourage you to think about how to make your relationships/situations in your life work for your good. We hope you enjoy this episode! TODAY IS THE DAY! This ...

Jan 19, 202254 minEp. 132

Stories From the Ex

For the first time ever we have invited some of our listeners to be on the show. Today I am interviewing two women who have some things in common but have very different stories. They are (or were) both members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They both had spouses who came out after they were married. AND they are both named Kylee! SAY WHAT?! But there are some major differences in their stories as well. Listen in to hear all about it. My bold friend, You are a unicorn. You a...

Jan 12, 202244 minEp. 131

The Other Affair

This week’s episode starts off with one of my greatest co-parenting fears coming to fruition and it was all Steve’s doing. But, I am happy to report it ended up working out pretty great and I am 100 percent at peace with it. Do you carry some fears about the unknown of what co-parenting/divorce can bring? Yeah, we do too and that’s okay. We also give more details into another story that we grazed over before but this week the truth comes out. Did I (Jessica) have an affair as well? Who the heck ...

Jan 05, 202243 minEp. 130
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