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Distance To Empty

Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyespodcasters.spotify.com
Become a Subscriber: http://patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.
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Episodes

How to Finish the Arizona Monster 300 (w/ Two Dudes Who Haven't Run It)

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! In this episode of the Distance to Empty podcast, host Kevin Goldberg and guest cohost Chad Bruce delve into the inaugural Arizona Monster 300, a 304-mile ultra race through the Sonoran Desert. They provide a detailed course preview, discussing each section's challenges, including elevation changes, aid ...

Apr 02, 20251 hr 13 min

Callie Vinson is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250. In this episode of the Distance to Empty podcast, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes welcome back Callie Vinson, an experienced ultra marathon runner preparing f...

Mar 31, 202519 min

Dan Green is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250. In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes interview Cocodona 250 hopeful Dan Green. They discuss Dan's journey into ultrarunning, his ...

Mar 26, 202517 min

Kyla Maher is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250. In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes chat with Kyla Maha, an athlete manager at Janji and a first-time participant in the Cocodona ...

Mar 24, 202517 min

The Iditarod Trail Invitational w/ Mitch Dulleck

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg interviews Mitch Dulleck about his experience in the Iditarod Trail Invitational 150. Mitch shares his journey to the race, including his preparation, gear choices, and nutrition strategies for enduring the harsh winter conditions. He discusses the challe...

Mar 17, 20251 hr

Andy Jones-Wilkins is Running Cocodona 250

In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg welcomes ultra runner AJW to discuss his upcoming participation in the Cocodona 250, his journey into 200-mile races, and the unique challenges they present. AJW shares his motivations for stepping up to this distance, including a tribute to his late friend Rob Martin. The conversation delves into training strategies, the importance of sleep management, and the evolving landscape of ultra running, particularly the rise of 200-mile races. ...

Mar 11, 20251 hr 15 min

Fueling for 200 Milers w/ Registered Dietician Stefan Schuster

In this episode of Distance to Empty, Kevin Goldberg and Stefan discuss the intricacies of ultra running, particularly focusing on the 200-mile distance and the nutritional strategies that accompany such endurance events. Stefan shares his journey from a career in sales to becoming a registered dietitian, emphasizing the importance of nutrition in ultra running. The conversation delves into the differences in fueling strategies between 100 and 200-mile races, the significance of training the gut...

Mar 03, 20251 hr 7 min

Anastasia Wilde & Jason Peters - 200 Race Photography

In this conversation, Anastasia Wilde, and Jason Peters discuss their experiences in the world of long-distance race photography, particularly focusing on 200-mile races. They share their personal journeys into the industry, the challenges they face during races, and the planning involved in capturing the best moments. The discussion also touches on memorable experiences, both epic failures and emotional moments, as well as the use of drone technology in race coverage. The conversation highlight...

Feb 25, 20251 hr 4 min

"The Chase" a Cocodona 250 Film w/ Dylan Harris

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! In this episode, Dylan shares his journey into filmmaking, detailing how he transitioned from sports to trail running and eventually to capturing the essence of ultra running through documentaries. He discusses the challenges and excitement of filming the Cocodona 250 race for The Chase , focusing on the elite run...

Feb 17, 20251 hr 14 min

Candice Burt - From the Triple Crown of 200s to the Arizona Monster 300 & Beyond

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! In this conversation, Candice Burt discusses her journey in creating and organizing 200-mile ultra races, including the Tahoe 200, Bigfoot 200, and Moab 240. She reflects on the evolution of these races, the challenges faced in organizing them, and the growing popularity of ultra running. The discussion also covers ...

Feb 10, 20251 hr 18 min

Trail Running & Wildlife Encounters w/ Jeff Larson of Tooth & Claw Podcast

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! In this episode of Distance to Empty we interview Jeff Larson, cohost of the Tooth and Claw Podcast about the intersection of wildlife encounters and ultra running. They discuss safety tips for trail runners, the risks of animal encounters, and the importance of being prepared with the right gear. Jeff shares insights...

Feb 03, 20251 hr 31 min

The Mammoth 200 w/ RD Hilary Yang

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at ⁠Janji.com⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! In this conversation, Hilary Yang shares her journey into the world of 200-mile races, detailing her experiences as a photographer and media director for Destination Trail. She discusses the inspiration behind the Mammoth race, the challenges of planning a new race, and the unique features of the course. Hilary emphasiz...

Jan 27, 20251 hr 9 min

Harry Subertas - Cocodona 250 & The Triple Crown of 200s

Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! In this conversation, Harry Subertas shares his journey into the world of 200-mile races, detailing his experiences, challenges, and triumphs. He reflects on his first race in Colorado, the impact of cumulative fatigue, and his historic performance at Cocodona. Harry discusses the challenges he faced during the Tahoe race...

Jan 20, 20251 hr 15 min

Harvey Lewis - 200 Miles and Beyond

In this conversation, Harvey shares his extensive experience in ultramarathons, particularly focusing on the challenges and adventures of running 200-mile races. He reflects on his first 200-mile race at the Gobi Trail Ultra, the spontaneous decision to run the Badwater Double, and the beauty of the Bigfoot 200. Harvey discusses the differences between traditional ultramarathons and backyard ultras, emphasizing the mental and physical strategies required for each. The conversation highlights the...

Jan 13, 20251 hr 18 min

Across Florida 200 w/ Liz Myers + Year End Recap

In our last episode of 2024, Liz Myers shares her inspiring journey into ultra running, detailing her transition from strength training and off-roading to completing her first 200-mile race. She discusses the challenges of training, the emotional rollercoaster during the race, and the unique experiences of running across Florida. Liz emphasizes the importance of self-competition, the support of her crew, and the lessons learned from dealing with blisters and nutrition during long races. In this ...

Dec 30, 20241 hr 21 min

Race Media Coverage & Live-streaming for 200s w/ Chris Worden

In this conversation, Chris Worden shares his journey from a casual runner to becoming a staple in ultra running media coverage. He discusses the evolution of race coverage, particularly for events like Cocodona 250, and the challenges of live streaming such extensive races. Chris emphasizes the importance of storytelling in ultra running, highlighting the diverse experiences of athletes, from elites to back-of-the-pack runners. He also addresses the ethical considerations of race coverage, the ...

Dec 16, 20241 hr 9 min

Thru-hiking to 200s w/ Kevin Russ

In this conversation, Kevin Russ shares his journey from being a landscape nature photographer to becoming an avid thru-hiker and ultra runner. He discusses the transition from long-distance hiking to ultra running, the mental resilience required for both activities, and the importance of sleep strategies in ultra running. Kevin also delves into how his passion for photography intertwines with his outdoor adventures, and he shares his excitement and concerns about participating in the Cocodona 2...

Dec 03, 202454 min

Simon Guérard & the Tor Des Geants

In this episode, Simon Guérard shares his experiences and insights from participating in the challenging Tor des Geants, one of the most difficult endurance races in the world. He discusses his journey into ultra running, the importance of mental toughness, pacing strategies, and the unique challenges posed by the race's weather and terrain. Simon also delves into preparation techniques, the significance of sleep and nutrition during long races, and his future aspirations in the world of ultra r...

Nov 18, 20241 hr 15 min

Natasha Swartley AKA "Thor" the Trail Race Medic

In this episode of Distance to Empty, Natasha Swartley shares her journey from military service to becoming a trail race medic. She discusses her experiences in ultra running, the challenges faced by athletes, and the importance of proper medical care in endurance races. Natasha highlights common medical issues such as nutrition and GI problems, blisters, and the psychological aspects of racing. She emphasizes the need for specialized medical support in ultra events and shares memorable moments ...

Nov 07, 20241 hr 10 min

Sarah Ostaszewski - Moab 240 Champion

In this episode of Distance to Empty, Sarah shares her recent victory at the Moab 240 race, reflecting on her journey through ultra running, the challenges of training, and the importance of crew support. She compares her experiences at Moab and Cocodona, discussing the unique aspects of each race and how they shaped her approach to endurance racing. Sarah emphasizes the mental challenges faced during long races and the strategies she employed to overcome them, highlighting the significance of e...

Oct 21, 20241 hr 6 min

Delusions, Dead Bodies, & 200s w/ Kevin Hadfield

Welcome to our SPOOOKY episode! In this episode, Kevin Hadfield shares his journey into ultra running, discussing his experiences with the Tour de Geants and Cocodona races and reflects on the challenges of long-distance running, including the phenomenon of hallucinations during races. Additionally, he connects his career in medical legal death investigation to his experiences in ultra running, exploring the psychological aspects of endurance sports. In this conversation, Kevin Hadfield shares h...

Oct 14, 20241 hr 17 min

2024 Moab 240 Course Preview

In this episode, Kevin and Peter provide an in-depth preview of the Moab 240 ultra marathon, sharing their personal experiences and insights from the race. They discuss the course layout, key updates for the upcoming race, and detailed descriptions of each section, including challenges and strategies for success. The conversation also touches on the importance of pacing, nutrition, and mental preparation for such a grueling event. Listeners can expect valuable tips and anecdotes that will help t...

Oct 08, 20241 hr

Arlen Glick & The Cocodona 250

In this conversation, Arlen Glick shares his journey into ultra running, focusing on his experience at the Cocodona 250. He discusses the transition from shorter races to the 200-mile distance, the training adjustments he made, and the mental strategies he employed during the race. Arlen reflects on the challenges he faced, particularly during the second day, and emphasizes the importance of sleep and nutrition in endurance racing. He also shares insights on competition, his pacer's role, and hi...

Sep 30, 20241 hr 9 min

The Cowboy 200 w/ Cole Crosby

In this episode, Cole Crosby shares his experience of winning the Cowboy 200, a uniquely challenging 200-mile race in Nebraska. He discusses the unique aspects of the race, his training regimen, and the mental fortitude required to push through the pain and exhaustion. Cole emphasizes the importance of hydration, crew support, and personal management during ultra races. He also compares the Cowboy 200 to other races like Cocodona, highlighting the differences in terrain and race dynamics. Throug...

Sep 23, 20241 hr 8 min

Preparing Your Body for 200 Milers w/ Dr. Jesse Riley

Dr. Jesse Reilly shares his background in working with runners and endurance athletes and his approach to pain management. He emphasizes the importance of an evidence-based approach and individualized care. He discusses the role of the brain in interpreting pain and the need to find a balance between pushing through discomfort and avoiding injury. Dr. Reilly also addresses the use of the RICE protocol and the importance of movement in recovery. He explores the mindset and mental strategies that ...

Sep 09, 20241 hr 13 min

2024 Divide 200 Course Preview w/ Regina Massingill

In this episode of the Distance to Empty podcast, Kevin and Peter interview Regina, a veteran of the Divide 200 ultra marathon. They discuss the different sections of the race and Regina shares her experiences and challenges. The race starts with an easy section, followed by a difficult and technical section with route finding challenges. Regina talks about the importance of having a crew and the aid stations along the way. She also mentions the night sections and the beautiful views of the cour...

Sep 05, 202457 min

Andy Glaze on 200+ Mile Races

Andy discusses his experience with 200-mile races, including Cocodona, Moab 240, and others. He talks about the challenges of running solo and unsupported, the importance of sleep strategy, and the differences in approach between 100-mile and 200-mile races. He reflects on his past Cocodona races and how he has learned from each one. Andy also shares his plans for future races, including Tour de Jean, Leadville, and Monster. He offers advice for athletes looking to do multiple 200-mile races in ...

Aug 26, 20241 hr 11 min

DNF & Finding Redemption w/ Bryant Shook

Bryant Shook shares his journey into ultra marathons and his experience with the 200+ mile distance. In 2023, he attempted the Cocodona 250 but had to drop out at mile 100 due to various issues. This led to a period of depression and a strong determination to come back and finish the race. In 2024, he made a comeback and successfully completed the Cocodona 250. The key factors that contributed to his success were improved nutrition, a mindset shift, and the support of a crew and pacers. Bryant r...

Aug 12, 20241 hr 4 min

2024 Bigfoot 200 Course Preview

In this episode, Kevin and Peter provide an in-depth course preview of the Bigfoot 200 ultra marathon. They discuss each section of the race, including the elevation gain and loss, the difficulty of the trails, and the availability of water sources. They also mention the aid stations and the opportunity for crew and pacers. The conversation highlights the challenging and beautiful nature of the course, with sections that are steep, overgrown, and remote. Overall, it provides valuable insights fo...

Aug 05, 202458 min

Badwater 135 & The Mighty Gallatin 300

In this episode, the hosts are joined by Francis Picard for a bonus intro guest. Francis recently completed the Badwater 135 race. They discuss Francis' experience at the race, including the challenging start, managing nutrition in the heat, and dealing with bees along the course. They also talk about the high and low points of the race and whether they would do it again. In the second part of the episode, they interview Connor, the first and only finisher of the Mighty Gallatin, a rugged 300+ m...

Jul 29, 20241 hr 5 min
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