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Data Mesh Radio

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Interviews with data mesh practitioners, deep dives/how-tos, anti-patterns, panels, chats (not debates) with skeptics, "mesh musings", and so much more. Host Scott Hirleman (founder of the Data Mesh Learning Community) shares his learnings - and those of the broader data community - from over a year of deep diving into data mesh. Each episode contains a BLUF - bottom line, up front - so you can quickly absorb a few key takeaways and also decide if an episode will be useful to you - nothing worse than listening for 20+ minutes before figuring out if a podcast episode is going to be interesting and/or incremental ;) Hoping to provide quality transcripts in the future - if you want to help, please reach out! Data Mesh Radio is also looking for guests to share their experience with data mesh! Even if that experience is 'I am confused, let's chat about' some specific topic. Yes, that could be you! You can check out our guest and feedback FAQ, including how to submit your name to be a guest and how to submit feedback - including anonymously if you want - here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dDdb1mEhmcYqx3xYAvPuM1FZMuGiCszyY9x8X250KuQ/edit?usp=sharing Data Mesh Radio is committed to diversity and inclusion. This includes in our guests and guest hosts. If you are part of a minoritized group, please see this as an open invitation to being a guest, so please hit the link above. If you are looking for additional useful information on data mesh, we recommend the community resources from Data Mesh Learning. All are vendor independent. https://datameshlearning.com/community/ You should also follow Zhamak Dehghani (founder of the data mesh concept); she posts a lot of great things on LinkedIn and has a wonderful data mesh book through O'Reilly. Plus, she's just a nice person: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhamak-dehghani/detail/recent-activity/shares/ Data Mesh Radio is provided as a free community resource by DataStax. If you need a database that is easy to scale - read: serverless - but also easy to develop for - many APIs including gRPC, REST, JSON, GraphQL, etc. all of which are OSS under the Stargate project - check out DataStax's AstraDB service :) Built on Apache Cassandra, AstraDB is very performant and oh yeah, is also multi-region/multi-cloud so you can focus on scaling your company, not your database. There's a free forever tier for poking around/home projects and you can also use code DAAP500 for a $500 free credit (apply under payment options): https://www.datastax.com/products/datastax-astra?utm_source=DataMeshRadio

Episodes

#260 Driving the Big Picture Forward - More on Northern Trust's Data Mesh Implementation - Interview w/ Jimmy Kozlow

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Oct 16, 20231 hr 14 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of October 15, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Oct 15, 202321 min

#259 The Fellowship of the Data Mesh: The Journey to Meshtopia - Mesh Musings 54

Key points: Every organization starts from a different location when heading to Data Meshtopia. Every journey will look different. Try to understand why they chose to do what when - often by just getting in touch and asking them. Because the journey looks different, where you put your focus when will depend. Look to the fundamentals of what are you trying to achieve, how to achieve short and long-term value, and how are you making progress. You can choose your own journey - there are different p...

Oct 13, 202315 min

#258 Data Mesh on Hard Mode: Learnings From Airtel's Early Data Mesh Journey - Interview w/ Sid Shah

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Oct 09, 20231 hr 16 minEp. 258

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of October 8, 2023

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Oct 08, 202322 min

#257 Panel: Doing Data Mesh Data Governance Well - Led by Andrew Sharp w/ Nicola Askham, Kinda El Maarry, PhD, and Jay Como

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Oct 06, 20231 hr 9 min

#256 How to Drive Towards a Data-Driven Culture with Data Mesh - Interview w/ Amy Edwards

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Oct 02, 20231 hr 21 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of October 1, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Oct 01, 202333 min

#255 Zhamak's Corner 28 - Generative AI and Data Mesh: The Start of a Long Road

Takeaways: This is just scratching the surface of generative AI and data mesh - we will have much deeper discussions in future episodes. Zhamak believes generative AI has a ton of positive real world potential, especially in data mesh. Scott is more skeptical. But if things like GenAI are only able to be leveraged by a few large companies trying to collect as much information - especially sensitive information - as possible, there are some big potential societal issues that might come from that....

Sep 29, 202323 minEp. 255

#254 Easing Into a Data Mesh Journey - Ocean Spray's Pre-Data Mesh Preparations - Interview w/ Paul Cavacas

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Sep 25, 20231 hr 7 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of September 24, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Sep 24, 202317 min

#253 Data Mesh Implementation Success Metrics - Data Quality - Mesh Musings 53

Key takeaways: As mentioned the last two times, at the start, it's more important to start measuring something than it is to measure the right things. Do NOT let analysis paralysis hold you back. Start measuring early to figure out what actually matters and that will also change over time. Similarly, your success metric measurement framework will probably suck to start. Oh well, get to measuring. Use fitness functions. Episode #95 with Dave Colls covers a lot on this. Data mesh really is a journ...

Sep 22, 202341 min

#252 Designing and Building a Better Data Governance Approach - Interview w/ Lauren Maffeo

Use code DATAGOV23 for 35% off ebook copies of Designing Data Governance from the Ground Up here: https://pragprog.com/titles/lmmlops/designing-data-governance-from-the-ground-up/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all...

Sep 18, 20231 hr

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of September 17, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Sep 17, 202314 min

Rerelease of #130 Making the Data Quantum Leap - Starting from the Data Quantum at PayPal - Interview w/ Jean-Georges Perrin (JGP)

Due to health-related issues, we are on a temporary hiatus for new episodes. Please enjoy this rerelease of episode #130 with my partner in our weekly data mesh roundtables Jean-Georges Perrin. There are a lot of interesting things to take away from this. A biggie is to have an early thesis about what to drive towards - what will drive value early? Doing data mesh doesn't simply create value. And you need to build momentum. There's a lot here to learn about how to apply good software engineering...

Sep 15, 20231 hr 24 min

Rerelease of #65 What's a Data Contract Between Friends - Setting Expectations with Data Contracts - Interview w/ Abe Gong

Due to health-related issues, we are on a temporary hiatus for new episodes. Please enjoy this rerelease of episode #65 with Abe Gong all about how people are implementing data contracts in the wild. There are so many ways people can just do only defensive data contracts and I think that is such a missed opportunity. Maybe it's where you will have to start but there's a much better way and we talk a bit about why I think that is so distressing that people aren't talking to each other. Sign up fo...

Sep 13, 20231 hr 2 min

Rerelease of #48 Overcoming Obstinate Organizational Obstacles in Data Mesh - Interview w/ Scott Hawkins

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Sep 11, 202357 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of September 10, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Sep 10, 202332 min

Rerelease of #150 3 Years in, Data Mesh at eDreams: Small Data Products, Consumer Burden, and Iterating to Success, Oh My! - Interview w/ Carlos Saona

Due to health-related issues, we are on a temporary hiatus for new episodes. Please enjoy this rerelease of episode 150 with Carlos Saona. eDreams' approach is very unique and interesting because it was essentially all on its own so there are a ton of useful learnings to consider if they are the right fit for your own organizations. Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your po...

Sep 08, 20231 hr 25 min

Rerelease of #133 Nitty Gritty From the Deployment Committee: Crucial Learnings on Driving Buy-in and Data Product Discovery - Interview w/ Ammara Gafoor

Due to health-related issues, we are on a temporary hiatus for new episodes. Please enjoy this rerelease of episode 133 with Ammara Gafoor. There is a ton to learn from this one and reflect back on. Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list a...

Sep 06, 20231 hr 19 min

Rerelease of #177 - Zhamak's Corner 14 - The Data Can't Protect Itself

Due to health-related issues, we are on a temporary hiatus for new episodes. Please enjoy this rerelease of episode 177. As stated in the original show notes, this is one to revist often as it is a great level-setting on why are we doing what we do in data mesh. Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Sponsored by NextData , Zhamak's company that is helping ease data product creation. For more great content ...

Sep 04, 202320 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of September 3, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Sep 03, 202338 min

Rerelease of #52 Data Mesh Data Governance: Getting Out of Your Own Way - Interview w/ Sarita Bakst

This is a rerelease of a previous episode as we are on a hiatus related to Scott's recent health issues. This is a very important episode for many reasons so please do check it out again :) Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links ...

Sep 01, 20231 hr 12 min

Rerelease of #44 A Pragmatic Approach to Getting Started with Data Mesh at Northern Trust - Interview w/ Khanh Chau

This is a rerelease of a previous episode due to my health related issues. New episodes will begin again in a few weeks. Please enjoy this very important episode of Data Mesh Radio. Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all a...

Aug 30, 20231 hr 16 min

Rerelease of #25 The Most Key Data Mesh Takeaway: It's Not Just You - Mesh Musings 5

Due to health-related issues, we are on a temporary hiatus for new episodes. Please enjoy this release of episode 25, potentially the most important episode of Data Mesh Radio. Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all availa...

Aug 28, 202321 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of August 27, 2023

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you want to learn more and/or join the Data Mesh Learning Community, see here: https://datameshlearning.com/community/ All music use...

Aug 27, 202317 min

New Episode Hiatus Announcement

Due to lingering severe health issues and not trying to rush myself back, I will be doing a 3 week hiatus around new episodes. In that break, I will be rereleasing some old episodes that I think people really need to listen to or possibly reflect on if they haven't listened to them lately. Here's to better health in the near future!

Aug 25, 20232 min

#251 Panel: Tying the Business Strategy to the Data Work and Vice Versa - Led by Burce Gültekin w/ Ghada Richani, Beth Bauer, and Michael Toland

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Aug 25, 20231 hr 2 min

#250 Staying Aligned on the Vision in Data Mesh - Lessons from Volkswagen's Journey - Interview w/ Christoph Spohr

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Aug 21, 20231 hr 11 minEp. 250

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of August 20, 2023

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you want to learn more and/or join the Data Mesh Learning Community, see here: https://datameshlearning.com/community/ All music use...

Aug 20, 202330 min