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Data Mesh Radio

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Interviews with data mesh practitioners, deep dives/how-tos, anti-patterns, panels, chats (not debates) with skeptics, "mesh musings", and so much more. Host Scott Hirleman (founder of the Data Mesh Learning Community) shares his learnings - and those of the broader data community - from over a year of deep diving into data mesh. Each episode contains a BLUF - bottom line, up front - so you can quickly absorb a few key takeaways and also decide if an episode will be useful to you - nothing worse than listening for 20+ minutes before figuring out if a podcast episode is going to be interesting and/or incremental ;) Hoping to provide quality transcripts in the future - if you want to help, please reach out! Data Mesh Radio is also looking for guests to share their experience with data mesh! Even if that experience is 'I am confused, let's chat about' some specific topic. Yes, that could be you! You can check out our guest and feedback FAQ, including how to submit your name to be a guest and how to submit feedback - including anonymously if you want - here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dDdb1mEhmcYqx3xYAvPuM1FZMuGiCszyY9x8X250KuQ/edit?usp=sharing Data Mesh Radio is committed to diversity and inclusion. This includes in our guests and guest hosts. If you are part of a minoritized group, please see this as an open invitation to being a guest, so please hit the link above. If you are looking for additional useful information on data mesh, we recommend the community resources from Data Mesh Learning. All are vendor independent. https://datameshlearning.com/community/ You should also follow Zhamak Dehghani (founder of the data mesh concept); she posts a lot of great things on LinkedIn and has a wonderful data mesh book through O'Reilly. Plus, she's just a nice person: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhamak-dehghani/detail/recent-activity/shares/ Data Mesh Radio is provided as a free community resource by DataStax. If you need a database that is easy to scale - read: serverless - but also easy to develop for - many APIs including gRPC, REST, JSON, GraphQL, etc. all of which are OSS under the Stargate project - check out DataStax's AstraDB service :) Built on Apache Cassandra, AstraDB is very performant and oh yeah, is also multi-region/multi-cloud so you can focus on scaling your company, not your database. There's a free forever tier for poking around/home projects and you can also use code DAAP500 for a $500 free credit (apply under payment options): https://www.datastax.com/products/datastax-astra?utm_source=DataMeshRadio

Episodes

#280 Enabling Your Domains to Create Maintainable Data Products - Interview w/ Alexandra Diem, PhD

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn . Transcript for this episode ( link ) provided b...

Dec 25, 20231 hr

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of December 24, 2023

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Dec 24, 202328 min

#279 Driving Towards a Cohesive Developer Experience - At the Expense of Snowflake and Databricks? - Zhamak's Corner 32

Key Points: We need API-first technologies in data. Not just offering APIs but being able to integrate seamlessly with each other via API. We have that in software but it's been a long-time coming in data. If we want an actual modern data stack, we need to have tooling providers make a real change. Simple made easy: we need to make things simple for data product development and consumption. It's not simplistic but it removes unnecessary complexities. Overall, there is such a trend in data where ...

Dec 22, 202319 min

#278 Data Contracts for the Rest of Us - Approaching Contracts in Evolving Companies - Interview w/ Ryan Collingwood

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Dec 18, 20231 hr 19 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of December 17, 2023

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Dec 17, 202315 min

#277 Mesh Momentum Versus Value - What to Choose When and Why - Mesh Musings 57

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you want to learn m...

Dec 15, 202314 minEp. 277

#276 Making Self-Service Actually Work Well Safely - Interview w/ Kate Carruthers

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Dec 11, 20231 hr 3 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of December 10, 2023

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Dec 10, 202315 min

#275 Panel: Why Data Mesh Needs Digital and Org Transformation - Led by Benny Benford w/ Nailya Sabirzyanova, Iulia Varvara, and Stefan Zima

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Dec 08, 20231 hr 6 min

#274 Your Data Platform is a Product, Treat it Like One! - Interview w/ Sean Gustafson

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Dec 04, 20231 hr 2 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of December 3, 2023

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Dec 03, 202324 min

#273 An API-First World in Data Integration - An Actual Modern Data Stack - Zhamak's Corner 31

Key Points: The rush to categorize all of our tooling in data has caused many issues - we will see a big shake-up coming in the future much like happened in application development tooling. So much of data people's time is spent on things that don't add value themselves, it's work that should be automated. We need to fix that so the data work is about delivering value. We can learn a lot from virtualization but data virtualization is not where things should go in general. Containerization is mer...

Dec 01, 202323 minEp. 273

#272 Understanding and Valuing Your Organization's Data - Interview w/ Lauren Cascio and Chris Ensey

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Nov 27, 202356 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of November 26, 2023

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Nov 26, 202315 min

#271 The Importance of Repeatability of Language to Scalability - Mesh Musings 56

Important points: There are places where nuance adds value. Many times, explicit definitions around data aspects like quality or even SRE metrics like uptime and query performance are not one. Provide a simple way for producers to apply these scalable approaches - the platform should measure data quality metrics for example. Data producers are having a hard enough time in general learning how to leverage data better. Find places to make it about learning about the information encapsulated in the...

Nov 24, 202311 min

#270 Sustainable Data Transformation to Drive Towards Data Mesh - RBI's Journey So Far - Interview w/ Stefan Zima

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Nov 20, 20231 hr 14 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of November 19, 2023

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Nov 19, 202313 min

#269 Panel: Leading a Data Mesh Implementation (2nd Iteration) - Led by Vanessa Eriksson w/ Stefan Zima, Duncan Cooper, and Sid Shah

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Nov 17, 20231 hr 4 minEp. 269

#268 Adapting to and Adopting Product Thinking - Transforming Your Org for Sustainable Data Mesh - Interview w/ Iulia Varvara

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Nov 13, 202356 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of November 12, 2023

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Nov 12, 202324 min

#267 The Developer Experience - How Do We Delight Data Developers? - Zhamak's Corner 30

Key Points: The current data product developer experience sucks. In software, we have one simple interface that manages all the pieces needed to get the job done, packages those components. In data, we have to jump through hoops and interfaces across many tools. Right now, the developer has to manage everything themselves which is a ton of work. But it's also a big risk because of lifecycle management - if everything isn't packaged and deployed as one, you have dependencies drifting from each ot...

Nov 09, 202320 min

#266 Leveraging Decades of Information Architecture Learnings to Do Data Well - Interview w/ Akins Lawal

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Nov 06, 20231 hr 4 minEp. 266

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of November 5, 2023

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Nov 05, 202312 min

#265 Are You (Even) Doing Data Mesh™? - Mesh Musings 55

Key takeaways: If you want to say you are doing data mesh, go ahead. If you really want to know if you are, look to Zhamak's book and her talks - how much are you attempting and are you going with the thin slice model - not ignoring any of the pillars. Have some empathy for yourself. If others want to say they are doing data mesh, it's not really a big deal as long as we aren't trying to emulate the ones fooling themselves or over-marketing. I'd rather welcome more folks into the tent than gatek...

Nov 03, 202317 minEp. 265

#264 Will GenAI and Data Mesh Really Mix? - Interview w/ Madhav Srinath

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Oct 30, 202351 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of October 29, 2023

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Oct 29, 202315 min

#263 Panel: Applying Site Reliability Engineering Practices to Data - Led by Emily Gorcenski w/ Amy Tobey and Alex Hidalgo

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Oct 27, 202359 min

#262 Setting the Groundwork to Become Data Driven - Interview w/ Corrin Shlomo Goldenberg

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Oct 23, 20231 hr 7 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of October 22, 2023

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Oct 22, 202327 min

#261 Just What the Heck is a Data Product Container? - Zhamak's Corner 29

Key Points: Containers in software abstracted away a number of very cumbersome tasks and encapsulated a lot of the dependencies software had to its environment. Combined, that meant developers could focus on delivering value instead of focusing on the infra. We need to do the same in data. It's all about sharing data in a responsible and easy way. That means putting all the components together so you don't have to manage many versions. Just like microservices. How do you manage to make this easy...

Oct 20, 202321 min