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Business Wars

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Netflix vs. HBO. Nike vs. Adidas. Business is war. Sometimes the prize is your wallet or your attention. Sometimes, it’s just the fun of beating the other guy. The outcome of these battles shapes what we buy and how we live. 

Business Wars gives you the unauthorized, real story of what drives these companies and their leaders, inventors, investors and executives to new heights -- or to ruin. Hosted by David Brown, former anchor of Marketplace. From Wondery, the network behind Dirty John and American History Tellers.

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Episodes

Target vs Walmart | The Beast from Bentonville | 2

It’s the 1990s and Walmart’s replaced Kmart as America’s biggest retailer.  But now that it’s on top, its business practices are under fire. And for Target, that’s an opportunity to paint itself as the friendly alternative to the Bentonville juggernaut. But to really break through, Target knows it must stand apart from its bigger opponent. And it’s about to find what it needs in the design districts of New York City. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for excl...

Jun 07, 202338 minSeason 84Ep. 2

Target vs Walmart | Retail Rumble | 1

It’s 1962 and a new retail trend’s catching fire – big-box discount stores that reinvent shopping with out-of-town locations, huge product ranges, and low, low prices. And at opposite ends of the country, two hopefuls are jumping on the bandwagon. In Arkansas, five-and-dime owner Sam Walton’s opening his first Wal-Mart. In Minnesota, the upscale Dayton’s department store is readying a discount chain called Target. But to survive in this new frontier of razor-thin margins, faster rivals and price...

May 31, 202337 minSeason 84Ep. 1

Best of Business Wars Daily | Add to Cart | 7

What's old is new again. Second-hand shopping is taking off online and the big brands want a piece of the action. Meanwhile, fast-fashion companies are working to reinvent themselves in the eyes of Gen Z. To unzip these shifts in retail, we're joined by comedian Cat Alvarado and editor Kaarin Vembar.  Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App  https://wondery.app.link/busin...

May 25, 202329 minSeason 83Ep. 7

Encore: Crypto Wars | Zuckerpunch | 6

It’s 2017, and after months of sky-high price rises, the crypto bubble is about to burst. But as scammers and investor panic crash the market, the Winklevoss twins’ nemesis Mark Zuckerberg is making moves. He’s planning a push into crypto designed to put Facebook at the center of global finance. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App  https://wondery.app.link/businesswars . S...

May 24, 202328 minSeason 83Ep. 6

Encore: Crypto Wars | New Kids on the Blockchain | 5

It’s the mid-2010s and a new blockchain called Ethereum is shaking up crypto. It’s the creation of nineteen-year-old Vitalik Buterin, and it’s inspiring a flood of new digital coins and a gold rush for crypto. But as millions of investors buy crypto for the first time, Coinbase feels the strain. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App https://wondery.app.link/businesswars . Support...

May 24, 202327 minSeason 83Ep. 5

Encore: Crypto Wars | Block Busting | 4

It’s 2015 and Coinbase is out to carve up the crypto scene with its new exchange. But it’s about to face strong headwinds in the form of state regulators, banks, and the Winklevoss twins’ new startup Gemini. And as Coinbase’s growth slows, CEO Brian Armstrong faces pressure to abandon crypto. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App https://wondery.app.link/businesswars . Support us...

May 24, 202324 minSeason 83Ep. 4

Encore: Crypto Wars | The Great Slow Motion Swindle | 3

It’s 2013 and bitcoin’s gaining traction at last. But just as crypto reaches for credibility, bitcoin is blindsided by high-profile arrests, corporate collapses and multi-million-dollar hacks. But as the leading lights of the bitcoin industry crash and burn, Coinbase senses a chance to cash in on the failures of others. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App  https://wondery....

May 17, 202327 minSeason 83Ep. 3

Encore: Crypto Wars | The Untouchables | 2

It’s 2011, and Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss are trying to move on from their legal battle with Mark Zuckerberg over who created Facebook. And their nemesis is about to derail the twins’ dreams again. But then a chance encounter on the dance floor catapults them into crypto. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App  https://wondery.app.link/businesswars . Support us by supportin...

May 17, 202325 minSeason 83Ep. 2

Encore: Crypto Wars | Generate Coins | 1

It’s 2009 and in a modest suburban home, a monetary revolution is beginning. It’s called bitcoin and it arrives with a whimper. There’s just no compelling reason to swap dollars for this worthless digital token. But then, a wannabe crime lord spots bitcoin’s potential and enacts a plan to filthy rich. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App  https://wondery.app.link/businesswa...

May 17, 202327 minSeason 83Ep. 1

Encore: Tesla vs Detroit | Elon Musk...It's Complicated | 5

Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter was… messy, to say the least, and now the multi-billionaire is the CEO of three different companies. That’s got investors wondering: can he handle it? And what’s the plan if he can’t? To dive into this question, we’re talking to Dana Hull, Bloomberg News reporter covering Tesla, and Tim Higgins, author of Power Play: Tesla, Elon Musk and the Bet of the Century . Dana brings us the latest on Tesla, while Tim dives deep into the man behind the billions — and whether...

May 10, 202344 minSeason 82Ep. 5

Encore: Tesla vs Detroit | Appetite for Destruction | 4

After weathering an investigation by the government for their EVs catching on fire, Tesla is hit by another probe after things get deadly. But the company is dedicated to Autopilot, its self-driving system. And once again, nearly every iconic brand in Detroit is following along. Elon Musk amps up his Twitter commentary, offending multitudes and putting fear into investors. But company value skyrockets. As Tesla moves into the 2020s, its' facing hurdles that were unimaginable just a few years ago...

May 03, 202335 minSeason 82Ep. 4

Encore: Tesla vs Detroit | Motor City Fights Back | 3

The battle to dominate the EV market is on. Tesla’s market value is now around $20 billion. At this rate, Tesla could wipe the floor with GM in a decade. Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Honda and Chevrolet are taking notes. No one wants to be bringing up the rear. After near-devastating production issues, Tesla is finally churning out hundreds of its Model S every week from its newly acquired, five-acre factory, on par with any plant in Motor City. But Tesla has serious problems to solve. Like how to get ...

May 03, 202336 minSeason 82Ep. 3

Encore: Tesla vs Detroit | Survival Mode | 2

In 2010, Tesla Motors has already experienced tremendous highs and devastating lows. Elon Musk is a polarizing figure whose goal is to change the way the traditional auto industry works. It’s been a struggle, but Detroit is finally bowing to the Tesla vision, moving electric vehicles to the top of production slates. But now Motor City wants to control the EV market. The limited run Tesla Roadster brought attention and kudos. Now ,Musk is pinning his hopes on the new Model S. But he still needs s...

Apr 26, 202336 minSeason 82Ep. 2

Encore: Tesla vs Detroit | Accelerate Faster | 1

While the U.S. government pushed automakers to make low-emission vehicles in the 1990s, consumers loved their gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs. But in 2003, Elon Musk's Tesla Motors arrives with environmentally friendly, high-performance cars that people actually want. Motor City smirks as Musk pilots Tesla through crushing financial crises, spectacular quality control disasters and his own shocking public displays of bad behavior. But his pricey cars are catching on. Detroit is taking notice. Musk ...

Apr 26, 202339 minSeason 82Ep. 1

Best of Business Wars Daily | Chat Chat Revolution | 6

 The AI revolution is here and the tech behemoths are building and releasing their own chatbots. To talk about their victories and blunders, we're joined by Vox journalist Shirin Ghaffary and comedian and podcast host Jolenta Greenberg. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App https://wondery.app.link/businesswars . Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at h...

Apr 20, 202333 minSeason 81Ep. 6

Encore: Diet Wars | Dieting 3.0 | 5

First there was Weight Watchers, then there was Noom, and now there’s…Wegovy? Bloomberg health reporter Emma Court helps us understand the evolution of dieting programs and where they’re going next. Later, Matthew Schnier of New York Magazine and The Cut walks us through his article “Life After Food,” which explores the latest wave of weight loss drugs, like Ozempic, that are sweeping through the nation’s elite.  Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusiv...

Apr 19, 202339 minSeason 81Ep. 5

Encore: Diet Wars | Losing Streak | 4

It's the 2010s and the weight-loss industry's battling intensifying headwinds. Calorie-counting smartphone apps are attracting millions of users and the diet backlash is getting louder by the day. As the pressure mounts, Weight Watchers realizes it needs to move with the times and reinvent itself. But it soon finds itself facing a conundrum: how to change convincingly without alienating the dieters the business depends on? This episode was originally released as a Wondery+ exclusive Binge all ep...

Apr 12, 202335 minSeason 81Ep. 4

Encore: Diet Wars | Reaching for the Stars | 3

It's the early 1990s and the diet boom is over. Weight Watchers is now a millstone around Heinz's neck, Jenny Craig's advance has stalled, and Nutri/System's bankrupt and broken. Faced with tanking sales, the diet giants home need new tricks to get people back on their weight-loss plans. And soon all three are homing in on the same answer – paying celebrities big bucks to convince the public that they're just a diet away from happiness. This episode was originally released as a Wondery+ exclusiv...

Apr 05, 202337 minSeason 81Ep. 3

Encore: Diet Wars | Up From Down Under | 2

It's 1983 and civil war's broken out within Nutri/System. But while CEO Harold Katz fights his franchisees, his former colleague Jenny Craig has grand designs on Australia. Craig wants to use Australia as a staging post on the way to becoming a U.S. heavyweight, but first she's got to convince women Down Under to diet like Americans. And that's going to be anything but easy. This episode was originally released as a Wondery+ exclusive Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wond...

Mar 29, 202339 minSeason 81Ep. 2

Encore: Diet Wars | Scaling Up | 1

It's 1961 and in a supermarket, housewife Jean Nidetch is about to get a shock that will send her on desperate quest to get thin. But when her new diet gets tough, she turns to friends for help and inadvertently starts what will become Weight Watchers. And as Weight Watchers rakes in big bucks from weight-loss, a street-tough Philadelphia businessman grabs his chance to become a millionaire. This episode was originally released as a Wondery+ exclusive Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wo...

Mar 22, 202338 minSeason 81Ep. 1

Business Wars | 5th Anniversary Special | 1

We're celebrating the five-year anniversary of Business Wars with a special episode that takes you behind the scenes. We'll delve into how we chose our host and how the first season got off the ground (time code: 1:19). Then we'll explore how we bring the story to life with sound (time code: 17:26). And comedian Josh Gondelman will give David Brown a bit of a grilling (time code: 32:45). Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and a...

Mar 16, 202348 minSeason 80Ep. 1

Disney-Pixar vs Dreamworks | 'To Infinity and Beyond' | 5

We’re going behind the scenes of your favorite Disney animated movies with Andrew Millstein, former president of Disney Animation. He helped lead the company’s transition to 3D computer animation, working on some of Disney’s biggest hits of the 2010s — Frozen, Tangled, and Zootopia, to name a few. Later, Polygon reporter Petrana Radulovic dissects DreamWorks, whose edgy animated films have become cult classics. Petrana also shares what’s new in animation online and around the world. Binge all ep...

Mar 15, 202339 minSeason 79Ep. 5

Disney-Pixar vs Dreamworks | Onward and Upward | 4

It’s 2006 and with Pixar part of Disney, Ed Catmull and John Lasseter now face the task of fixing Disney Animation Studios. And they need to fix it fast, because DreamWorks is winning at the box office. But while they strive to turn Disney Animation from has-been to hero, Hollywood’s other big studios are gearing up to take a bite out of the animated movie pie and that’s only going to dial up the competitive pressure on DreamWorks  and  Disney-Pixar. Binge all episodes early and ad-fre...

Mar 08, 202342 minSeason 79Ep. 4

Disney-Pixar vs Dreamworks | Regime Change | 3

It’s the 2000s and Disney and Pixar are locked in a high-stakes game of chicken. Disney’s deal with Pixar is about to end and renewal talks are snarled up. The dream team that introduced the world to computer animated movies is careening towards divorce. And with neither Disney CEO Michael Eisner nor Pixar boss Steve Jobs willing to cede ground, DreamWorks boss Jeffrey Katzenberg is about to forget tradition and go all out to become Hollywood’s new animation champ. Binge all episodes early and a...

Mar 01, 202340 minSeason 79Ep. 3

Disney-Pixar vs Dreamworks | Battle of the Bugs | 2

It’s 1995 and Pixar’s Toy Story is just months away from release. But as the premiere of the first computer-animated feature nears, all-out war breaks out between Disney and DreamWorks. Jeffrey Katzenberg raids Disney’s talent to build DreamWorks’ animation studio. Disney rearranges its releases schedules to undermine DreamWorks’ movies. And as Disney and DreamWorks’ tit-for-tat battle intensifies, Pixar will get caught in the crossfire. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join W...

Feb 22, 202337 minSeason 79Ep. 2

Disney-Pixar vs Dreamworks | The Outcasts | 1

It’s 1985 and Steve Jobs is fuming after being fired from Apple. He wants a second act, and he thinks he’s found one in Lucasfilm’s unwanted computer division. But when Jobs buys it and founds Pixar, it soon becomes clear that visions aren't aligned. Jobs wants to create the next-generation of personal computers. But Pixar’s leaders Ed Catmull and John Lasseter have different plans. They want Pixar to make animated movies using computers. But to make that happen, they need to persuade Jobs to bu...

Feb 15, 202336 minSeason 79Ep. 1

Best of Business Wars Daily | The Disney Dilemma | 6

We're talking about Disney's pivot to streaming and the hurdles ahead for the legacy media company as new rivals emerge. We're joined by Parrot Analytics strategist Julia Alexander and comedian Chase O'Donnell. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App  https://wondery.app.link/businesswars . Support us by supporting our sponsor! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy a...

Feb 09, 202342 minSeason 78Ep. 6

Apple vs Microsoft | Life After Laptops | 5

The personal computer is no longer the talk of the town. Between new AI tools, sleek smartphones and web-based apps, your laptop is just one small slice of the technology pie. But where does that leave Apple and Microsoft? Are we about to undergo a regime change?  Here to help answer that question are WIRED’S Senior Editor Mike Calore and Senior Writer Lauren Goode. The pair co-host the Gadget Lab podcast, where they break down the latest technology trends and how they shape our lives.&nbsp...

Feb 08, 202339 minSeason 78Ep. 5

Apple vs Microsoft | The Gamble | 4

The government sues Microsoft for allegedly violating antitrust laws, providing just the distraction Apple needs to launch a comeback. But Jobs is already planning another war – on a battlefield that doesn’t even exist yet. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App  https://wondery.app.link/businesswars . Support us by supporting our sponsor! See Privacy Policy at https://art19....

Feb 01, 202335 minSeason 78Ep. 4

Apple vs Microsoft | Seeds of Discontent | 3

Turmoil at Apple rots the company from the inside out, just as Microsoft’s Windows operating system starts ruling the computer world. Microsoft and Apple’s relationship reaches a breaking point when Microsoft allegedly steals company secrets, and the student… becomes the master. Binge all episodes early and ad-free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App  https://wondery.app.link/businesswars . Support us by supp...

Jan 25, 202335 minSeason 78Ep. 3