Despite their busy lives, Beth and Jeff McCord never could have imagined that the Enneagram would lead them on a journey of profound discovery and transformation - not just in their own marriage and parenting, but in the lives of their Christian community as well. What was this unexpected twist and how did it bring healing and wholeness to their relationship? In this episode, you will be able to: 1. Discover the power of Enneagram as an instrument to transform marriages. 2. Uncover ways to fuse ...
Apr 10, 2023•24 min•Season 3Ep. 39
In this episode James and Lisa have a conversation with Shaunti Feldhahn, co-author of the book "Secrets of Sex and Marriage." The episode tackles one of the most taboo topics in most relationships - Sex in marriage. Shaunti and her co-author, renowned sex therapist Michael Sytsma, spent three years and $120,000 on a research project involving interviewing over 5,300 people, leading to major surprises and aha moments. They identified the little things that make a big difference in making marriag...
Apr 03, 2023•33 min•Season 3Ep. 38
Are you looking for ways to improve your marriage? If so, then this podcast episode is for you! James and Lisa discovered new truths about their relationship, even after 30 years of marriage. They share a personal experience that led to some realizations in their marriage, believing that their podcast can help you take your marriage from survival mode to thriving. In this episode, they discuss the three types of tension that can create conflict in marriage and offer practical tips on how to navi...
Mar 27, 2023•19 min•Season 3Ep. 37
On this week's episode of the Art of Spousing podcast, listeners will hear from Don and Joy Bray, a couple who have been married for 58 years and are considered a godly example of longevity and vibrancy in marriage. Don and Joy share their story with the podcast hosts, discussing the significant choices they have made to create their masterpiece marriage. Listeners will learn how the couple chose to grow and find a lifelong commitment in each other, as well as how they chose to fight fair, take ...
Mar 20, 2023•28 min•Season 3Ep. 36
Are you struggling to connect physically with your partner in your marriage? Do you feel like you're unsure where to start or perhaps lack the confidence to initiate touch? In this episode, hosts Lisa and James discuss the importance of physical touch in a marriage and how it can improve intimacy, reduce stress and anxiety, and strengthen the bond between partners. They share their personal experiences, including small practices they have implemented in their own marriage such as squeezing hands...
Mar 13, 2023•20 min•Season 3Ep. 35
Chris and Jamie Bailey use their journey of overcoming dysfunction to offer real hope and practical tools to other couples through their podcast, courses, and social media, showing that you're never "too far gone" for God to redeem your situation. "It's not the problems that take you out in your marriage. It's what you do with them. It's how you choose to handle them. And dealing with chronic pain, I can allow that to depress me, defeat me, and just give me this negative mindset, which is not ea...
Mar 06, 2023•29 min•Season 3Ep. 34
James and Lisa continue the conversation around how to create an emotionally safe environment in your marriage by actively implementing four practices; giving and receiving forgiveness, validating each other's feelings, being willing to compromise, and seeking professional help. "Even if you're responsible for only 2% of the issue, you're still 100% responsible for that 2%." In this episode, you will learn the following: 1. Four practices to create an emotionally safe environment in your marriag...
Feb 27, 2023•20 min•Season 3Ep. 33
Lisa and James teach how to create an emotionally safe marriage and foster a lasting bond of love and trust! To create an emotionally safe environment in your marriage, it is important to avoid criticism, contempt, and defensiveness. "Don't let small offenses build up. If you can't get over something in 24 hours, then you need to have a conversation with your spouse about it so it doesn't build up and cause resentment or contempt." In this episode, you will learn the following: 1. How to create ...
Feb 20, 2023•20 min•Season 3Ep. 32
Experience the power of spiritual intimacy in marriage and learn to trust God's divine plan when He tells you to "go" with Danielle and Howard's story. "God gave us a very specific template in how to nurture marriage and serve in the marriage space, because we found through Facebook Live, it was like a great litmus test to the fact that people were hungry and they needed some advice, and oftentimes they needed it silently. We would do videos. It was like, no comments and no engagement, because t...
Feb 13, 2023•36 min•Season 3Ep. 31
We have learned that expressing extraordinary love to one another is not only important for a thriving marriage, but is also a way to demonstrate God's love to the world. Through the Bible passage of 1 Corinthians 13, we found three practices to level up our love: patience and kindness, forgiveness, and building endurance. By doing these things, we can enjoy our marriage, rather than just enduring it. "Love takes no pleasure in other people's sin, but delights in the truth. It's always ready to ...
Feb 06, 2023•26 min•Season 3Ep. 30
Ted Lowe reveals a startling truth about the secret to a great marriage--that it's not the opposite of a struggling marriage, but something different--he embarks on a journey to help couples shift their thinking and focus on the positive to experience true marital bliss. "It's so great to have people in this space like you guys that are co champions, that we're both going after the same thing. We want to help couples and just every time I'm with you guys, I am encouraged just to keep going." Ted...
Jan 30, 2023•33 min•Season 3Ep. 29
When striving for a masterpiece marriage, couples must avoid complacency by proactively prioritizing time, practicing honest communication, investing in the relationship, keeping romance alive, and exercising spontaneity. We share Six Practises For Avoiding Complacency in Your Marriage on the Artist Spousing Podcast. These practices can help prevent the feeling of growing apart and increase emotional intimacy and connectedness in a marriage, helping to reverse feelings of complacency. "if you're...
Jan 23, 2023•22 min•Season 3Ep. 28
Greg and Julie Gorman, desperate to rekindle their struggling marriage and provide hope for other couples, embarked on a powerful journey to create their Marriage Reboot - a one-on-one, two-to-three day intensive to reset, unify, and reignite marriages. "We become what we think about. If I'm thinking, okay, don't think about what a jerk Greg is. Don't think about how he's not doing this or that. What happens? I become even more hyper aware of those issues or problems. So it's not just stop doing...
Jan 16, 2023•34 min•Season 3Ep. 27
A determined husband and wife can make this their best year of marriage yet, proactively investing in themselves and each other to find the hope they need to overcome the 92% of New Year's goals that fail.You will learn how to unlock the secrets of a successful marriage and discover why intentionally investing in your relationship is key. This episode is all about Intentionally investing in your marriage. We have learned that investing in your marriage can be done in three ways: investing in you...
Jan 09, 2023•20 min•Season 3Ep. 26
"The best instructions come from the creator of a product." We've been married for 30 years, and one of the things that has helped us stay strong is that we've been intentional about our intimacy. We've always put God first in our marriage, and we've been intentional about growing in our spiritual, emotional, and sexual intimacy. We wish we would have had more adventure in our first five years of marriage, and we wish we would have been more intentional about creating healthy habits. In this epi...
Nov 21, 2022•23 min•Season 2Ep. 25
This is Christopher and Jasmine Catoe's story... I'm a worship leader at Christ Fellowship Church and my wife, Jasmine, is a content producer. We met in middle school and have been married for almost three years. Recently, we took an enneagram test and discovered that I am actually a five, not a one like we thought. This was a bit of a shock to me, but it made sense when I thought about my perfectionism and my love for data and planning. As a five, I tend to hoard information and resources, whic...
Nov 14, 2022•25 min•Season 2Ep. 24
In this episode, you will learn the following: 1. The Support Challenge Matrix: a tool for empowering relationships 2. The four quadrants of the Support Challenge Matrix: Protector, Dominator, Abdicator, Liberator 3. The consequences of living in each quadrant of the Support Challenge Matrix Resources: Schedule a Discovery Call about Marriage Reboot SUBSCRIBE: Monthly Newsletter Support Challenge Matrix and Circles of Influence Discussion Questions: How do you experience me in our relationship? ...
Nov 07, 2022•29 min•Season 2Ep. 23
Gabe and Casey Mahia are a young couple who have only been married for two years, but they have already learned a lot about themselves and each other. One of the things that Gabe has learned about Casey is that she is a self-proclaimed enneagram six. For those of you who are not familiar with the enneagram, it is a tool of empathy that reveals core motivations. Gabe is a video producer and he manages a team of content creators at Christ Fellowship Church. Casey is a social media content creator ...
Oct 31, 2022•36 min•Season 2Ep. 22
For a marriage to be secure and strong, you need to build a pro marriage collective, a community with like minded, growth minded couples. "The people you spend the most time with will change you in ways you cannot anticipate or ever fully understand." Over the last 30 years, we have surrounded ourselves with couples who are pro-marriage. They are always championing us and our relationship and they model the behavior we want to emulate in our own marriage. We've learned so much from them and our ...
Oct 24, 2022•29 min•Season 2Ep. 21
Brandon and Michelle Catoe are long-time friends of the hosts of the Art of Spousing podcast. They have been married for almost 27 years and have two adult children. Brandon is a three on the enneagram and Michelle is a six. They have both been involved in ministry for many years and currently serve on the senior leadership team at their church. This is Brandon and Michelle Catoe's story... Brandon and Michelle Catoe have been married for 27 years and have two kids. They met in kindergarten and ...
Oct 17, 2022•33 min•Season 2Ep. 20
The Art of Spousing Podcast tackles the reasons for money causing tension in marriage and provides tools to combat the stressors. "An ounce of disciplines weighs far less than a ton of regret" - Jim Rohn Lisa and I have different money styles. I tend to be a saver, while she is more of a spender. This can cause tension in our relationship, especially when it comes to budgeting and making financial decisions. However, we've learned to work together and compromise on spending in order to avoid arg...
Oct 10, 2022•25 min•Season 2Ep. 19
Grant and Stephanie Gardner are high school sweethearts who have been married for 38 years. They are the founders of Forever with Purpose, a ministry that empowers marriages to maximize their vision and purpose. They are also the hosts of the Pillow Talk with Grant and Stephanie podcast. "I always say that, we were knocked up, but not out. we got our cart before the horse and got married at a very, very early age; 17 going into our senior year." In this episode, you will learn: 1. The enneagram ...
Oct 03, 2022•27 min•Season 2Ep. 18
By building on common ground, you can strengthen your marriage. "Couples who know how to play and have fun together develop a bonding that can carry them through the most difficult times." Lisa and I were talk about strengthening our marriage by building on common ground. We discussed how marriages built on common ground have the ability to stand up against challenges that happen in life. In this episode, you will learn the following: 1. Why does your marriage exist? 2. What is your shared visio...
Sep 26, 2022•24 min•Season 2Ep. 17
In this episode, James and Lisa talk with Dave and Bethany Kush, who share their lifelong journey of learning and growth as a couple, in light of the Enneagram. "Oh, my gosh, now everybody knows. They see me with all my flaws. I felt like I'm standing in front of a crowd wearing just my underpants." Dave and Bethany Kush are a couple who have been married for 33 years. They have known each other since college and have been friends for a long time. Dave has worked in the corporate world for 15 ye...
Sep 19, 2022•34 min•Season 2Ep. 16
When committed love, emotional intimacy, and passion collide, the result is a work of art called marriage. "Love is more than a feeling and deeper than a crafty slogan or a line of a song." Today we're talking about love. The word love is described in so many different ways. Some make sense. Some are just silly. Some talk about love. Some try to define love. Some of these you may have heard of well, and other others may be new to you. Love is blind. Love is in the air. All you need is love. Love...
Sep 12, 2022•16 min•Season 2Ep. 15
"The Enneagram's effect on marriage." is not about: 1. The Enneagram is a perfect tool for predicting compatibility in marriage. 2. The Enneagram can help identify and correct relationship problems. 3. The Enneagram can help couples resolve conflicts and improve communication. Do you know your Enneagram type? It just might be the key to a happy marriage. "I felt understood for the first time and found out that castling is okay because it's how I restore and how I even when we first got married, ...
Sep 05, 2022•28 min•Season 2Ep. 14
Are you dealing with any of this? 1. You may feel like your partner isn't listening to you or understanding your feelings. 2. You may feel like you're always the one giving and never receiving. 3. Your partner may not be meeting your needs emotionally or physically. "So one of my favorite leadership teachers, Jim Rohn, taught small errors in judgment over a period of time will result in accumulated disaster." I used to love running. I would go out every day and explore new routes. But after a wh...
Aug 29, 2022•21 min•Season 2Ep. 13
If you're looking for a marriage that will last, look no further than Justin and Andrea Lathrop. "The greatest gift Justin has been in my life was to kind of model for me and perfectly, of course, like unconditional love and that it wasn't based on my performance, which ties into my enneagram number, too." Justin and Andrea Lathrop are a married couple of 22 years. They met in college and have since had four children. Justin is the vice president for strategic partnerships at Southeastern Univer...
Aug 22, 2022•29 min•Season 2Ep. 12
Lisa and James share insights around the five types of intimacy, and how a husband and wife can practice the art of intentional intimacy in spousing. Topics include; relational intimacy, spiritual intimacy, physical intimacy, emotional intimacy, and sexual intimacy. ___________________________________________________ SUBSCRIBE ON: Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Amazon Music Art of Spousing Resources: Schedule a Discovery Call about coaching opportunities. Send Questions and Comments to: ...
Aug 15, 2022•21 min•Season 2Ep. 11
Lisa and James sit down with good friends Greg and Julie Gorman, the founders of Married for a Purpose, to talk about their 23 year marriage dynamic of an ennea 7 and ennea 2. ___________________________________________________ SUBSCRIBE ON: Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Amazon Music Art of Spousing Resources: Schedule a Discovery Call about coaching opportunities. Send Questions and Comments to: hello@artofspousing.com Website: artofspousing.com IG: @artofspousing FB Group: artofspousi...
Aug 08, 2022•32 min•Season 2Ep. 10