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Arguing Agile

Brian Orlandoarguingagile.com

We're arguing about agile so that you don't have to! 

We seek to better prepare you to deal with real-life challenges by presenting both sides of the real arguments you will encounter in your professional career.

On this podcast, working professionals explore topics and learnings from their experiences and share the stories of Agilists at all stages of their careers. We seek to do so while maintaining an unbiased position from any financial interest.

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Episodes

AA69 - Gatekeeping Agile

On this episode, Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Agile Coach Om Patel talk about the sticky topic of Agile Coaches and Scrum Masters gatekeeping agility and thereby lowering trust in agile software development theory and practices, all around. 0:00 Topic Intro 1:53 The Post, Part 1 3:46 Arguing the Post 8:37 Supporting Arguments 15:46 Mindset & Psychological Safety 20:57 The Article, Part 2 (Part 25:41 Meet them Where They Are 34:24 Trainers 40:42 Coaches with Technical Backgrou...

Jul 08, 202259 minSeason 1Ep. 69

AA68 - Dealing with Conflict, with Special Mystery Guest

On this episode, Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Agile Coach Om Patel are joined their favorite Special Mystery Guest to talk about something that most people are bad at - dealing with conflict. 0:00 Topic Intro 1:00 Scaled Retro Example 6:37 One-on-Ones 8:56 Conflict Avoidance 12:42 Saying "No" 18:57 Learning on the Job 23:53 Problematic Coworkers 31:53 Scrum Master Assertiveness 41:02 Scrum Master Saying No, Continued 51:29 Finger Pointing 1:00:53 Dealing with "the Higher-Ups" 1:0...

Jul 01, 20221 hr 29 minSeason 1Ep. 68

AA67 - Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow

On this episode, Product Manager Brian Orlando pitches Enterprise Agile Coach Om Patel on the team optimization suggestions from the book, Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow (2019), by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais. Team Topologies Website 0:00 Topic Intro: Team Topologies 1:58 Stream-Aligned Teams 3:50 Why this Book? 7:25 Cognitive Load 12:46 4 Fundamental Topologies 20:22 Platform Teams 22:47 Arguing on Team Topologies 25:16 3 Core Interaction Modes 30:30...

Jun 24, 202259 minSeason 1Ep. 67

AA66 - Personal Agility & the Great Resignation, with Joey deVilla

When we think about unmitigated optimism and unwavering positivity, we think of none other than the unflappable - Joey deVilla! On this episode, we talk about how the great resignation has affected us and how a commitment to personal agility helps people and companies through tough times. 0:00 Intro 0:24 Topic Intro 0:59 Reasons for In-Person Gathering 4:19 Team Bonding, Positive Vibes 8:40 Work, Life, & Sustainability 15:50 Interviews: Vetting Companies 19:55 Segue on Microsoft 25:51 Learni...

Jun 17, 20221 hr 14 minSeason 1Ep. 66

AA65 - The Perfect Sprint Review Agenda

Does a perfect Sprint Review agenda exist? On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel ask this very question and try to figure it! Using some original content from one of our favorite Agile Coaches out there, Vibhor Chandel, we review and revise our way toward a Sprint Review agenda that we are excited to try with our teams, and that we hope you'll try with yours. Vibhor Chandel's Original Post Vibhor Chandel on LinkedIn and YouTube 0:00 Sprint Review Simplified (Topic Intro) 1:01 Brian's Curre...

Jun 10, 202259 minSeason 1Ep. 65

AA64 - Bad Agile Experiences, with Curtis Lembke

What creates bad experiences with agile; what do they look like, and how to we deal with them? On this episode of Arguing Agile, Curtis Lembke is back, joining Brian Orlando and Om Patel to talk through Bad Agile Experiences and why some people just totally against agile. 0:00 User-First Mindset 4:44 Introductory Banter 5:14 Topic Intro - Bad Agile Experiences 9:09 Why People Resist 12:25 Laggards & the Late Majority 15:52 What about Steve Jobs? 18:43 Product Cannibalization 23:58 Create You...

Jun 03, 20221 hr 36 minSeason 1Ep. 64

AP63 - Better Scrum

Do you feel Scrum is not helping you to more effectively create software or solve problems? Do you feel Scrum is just another form of managerial control? Do you feel Scrum is not helping your organization be or remain agile? On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss experiences and share tips to make scrum more effective - thereby producing more value. 0:00 Topic Intro 0:21 Seek First to Learn and Evolve 2:51 Work on Team Accountability 7:56 Get Help (Don't Hide Failures) 11:10 Last Th...

May 27, 202256 minSeason 1Ep. 63

AA62 - Failing to Accomplish the Sprint Goal

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel talk about what occurs when a team fails to meet the agreed on Sprint Goal. What do you do when a team does not meet the Sprint goal? How do you decide if a Sprint has failed or not? Does your culture promote learning from failures, or is failure a four letter word? We talk through all these things, and more! 0:00 Intro 1:09 Sprint Goals 4:18 Quality of the Sprint Goal 11:22 Tracking Successes and Failures 15:44 Trending Failure 18:21 Partial Success 2...

May 20, 202257 minSeason 1Ep. 62

AA61 - Experiences in Corporate Buyouts (Mergers & Acquisitions)

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel talk through their experiences in corporate buyouts (aka. a merger or acquisition). Why do they typically happen? How do you know they're about to happen? What to expect when they do happen? ...and, most importantly, what we've seen in our combined 8 experiences going through M&As on both the acquiring side and the acquiree side. Also, acquiree isn't a real word, but then, aren't all words made up? 0:00 Intro 0:36 Topic Intro - M&A 1:46 Three R...

May 13, 20221 hr 16 minSeason 1Ep. 61

AA60 - Leading Change with Curtis Lembke

On this episode, Curtis Lembke returns to talk about change! We all know change is hard - successful change cannot be managed, it requires capable and driven leaders. Curtis and Brian talk through (most of) John Kotter's eight-step change process, outlined in his 1995 book, "Leading Change." Find Curtis on LinkedIn ! 0:00 Intro & Banter 0:24 John Kotter: Leading Change 1:55 1.) Establish a Sense of Urgency 8:44 Business Value 20:12 Speed to Market vs. Quality Solution 27:17 Sabotaging Urgenc...

May 06, 20221 hr 25 minSeason 1Ep. 60

AP59 - New Teams with Agile Coach Caurie Waddell

On this episode, Agile Coach Caurie Waddell stops by to discuss her experiences working with new teams. 0:00 Topic Intro 0:38 Newly Formed Teams 4:23 Changing Behavior 7:39 Fix the Problems 12:16 Planning Improvement 14:57 Just Tell Me What to Do 17:09 The WoLF (Working on Latest Fire) 20:07 New Team (with Agile Experience) 22:46 The Hard Work is Outside the Team(s) 24:43 Middle Managers 27:36 Discovery & Product 29:39 Resistance - A Podcast Series? 34:38 Agility & the Customer 37:06 A N...

Apr 29, 20221 hr 10 minSeason 1Ep. 59

AP57 - Can We Fix Certifications? with Brent Breaux

Episode 57 is very special for us because we got to sit down with one of our favorite agilists - an individual who has quite literally been on our guest list since episode ONE - Brent Breaux! In this episode, we discuss the Certification Industry and the different ways that it fails the typical team member. We also muse on what a "better" or more helpful training regimen might look like or include. 0:00 Topic Intro 0:57 The Market, As-Is 4:47 Certification Treadmill 7:17 Certification via Mentor...

Apr 22, 202259 minSeason 1Ep. 57

AP58 - Article Review: "Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt on why in-office work is better"

In this episode, Brian and Om read through an article making its rounds on LinkedIn right now titled: "Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt on why in-office work is better: 'I don't know how you build great management' virtually." Listen as we discuss the points of the article, react to its contents, and argue about what it all means (or doesn't mean). Will Om be able to talk Brian off the ledge? Find out - only on the Agile Podcast!!! The article: https://www-cnbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.cnbc.com/...

Apr 15, 202241 minSeason 1Ep. 58

AP56 - Business Value (Who, What, When, Why, & How)

Are you a Product Manager or Owner who needs a metric separate from Velocity that better represents value delivered to the customer? Well then, this episode is for you! In this episode, we discuss Business Value - what is it, how to use it, why to use it, when to use it, and who assigns it. 0:00 Topic Intro - Business Value 1:22 A Different Kind of Metric 4:28 Business Value = 0 10:15 Jira-Related Example 11:41 Who Assigns Business Value? 14:47 Communicating Why 17:18 Involving Others in Busines...

Apr 08, 202251 minSeason 1Ep. 56

AP55 - Can a Scrum Master Skip Meetings?!?

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel are joined by our favorite Special Mystery Guest to ponder an important question that does not get asked enough - does a Scrum Master really need to attend every single Scrum event (and every non-scrum event) that involves their team? 0:00 Intro & Topic Intro 0:32 What Else Are You Doing? 3:58 Scrum Events without the Scrum Master 6:12 Scrum Master and Refinements 11:07 Three Teams is Two Too Many 13:33 Can You Skip Sprint Review? 16:35 Fact Checki...

Apr 01, 202254 minSeason 1Ep. 55

AP54 - Anitra Pavka: Sr. Product Owner

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel talk with Sr. Product Owner Anitra Pavka about her experiences across the software development and agility field - from Web Developer, to Business Analyst, to Scrum Master and Agile Coach, to Product Owner/Manager and beyond. ...and BEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOND! 0:00 Intro 0:22 Anitra's Background 3:57 Exploring Cultures 6:48 Agility Enters the Picture 11:58 Learning by Trying 13:09 Creating Great Teams 16:17 Resistance, Perfection, and Bad Actors 19:56 A...

Mar 25, 20221 hr 5 minSeason 1Ep. 54

AP53 - Service Manager: Brian Fidalgo

What is a Service Manager? What do they do? On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel are joined by Brian Fidalgo to talk about what it is like to be a Service Manager. 0:00 Intro 0:18 What is a Service Manager? 2:49 Is it a Large Company Thing? 6:37 Is It Like Scaled Product? 12:53 Organizational Alignment 16:10 Day in the Life 19:24 Quality and Control/Influence 23:24 Similarities in Dance & Music 29:20 Acronyms (SLA and OLA) 33:40 Elements of Process and Product 39:00 Like a Program-Lev...

Mar 18, 20221 hr 24 minSeason 1Ep. 53

AP52 - Taylorism: The Principles of Scientific Management

This episode of the Agile Podcast is all about Frederick Winslow Taylor and his invention: Scientific Management. The father of Management Consulting, Taylor wrote a book called the Principles of Scientific Management which became (in our opinion) the cornerstone of management theory for the majority of the post-Industrial era into the current day. Join Brian Orlando and Om Patel, with special guest Alfonso Guerra, as we delve into the world of Taylorism! 0:00 Intro & Taylor's History 4:32 F...

Mar 11, 20222 hr 22 minSeason 1Ep. 52

AP51 - Challenges of Product Management (with Tricia Barnes)

On this Episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel are joined by VP of Product Tricia Barnes for a brief discussion about challenges frequently encountered by Product Managers. = = = = = = = = = = = = Watch us on YouTube: https://youtu.be/QXQDXX_HHYM Please Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1 = = = = = = = = = = = = Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596 Google Podcasts: https://podcasts....

Mar 04, 202247 minSeason 1Ep. 51

AP50 - Estimation (Hours vs. Story Points vs. Flow)

In this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss the dreaded topic of estimation in agile software development. We discuss the pros and cons of each type of estimation, starting with time/hours-based estimates, then moving to story points and finally flow (or #noestimates). 0:00 Intro 0:18 Topic Intro 1:28 Why Estimate? 3:15 Real Deadlines... Sometimes... 5:13 Why Estimate? A Product Viewpoint 7:49 Estimation or Guess 10:59 Guesses, Demands, & Tricks 13:36 "Pick a Date" Behavior 15:44 Met...

Feb 25, 20221 hr 3 minSeason 1Ep. 50

AP49 - Should a Scrum Master be Technical (and why its the wrong question)

In this very special episode of the Agile Podcast, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss a question that we have all heard many, many times: "Should a Scrum Master be Technical." We discuss this question in-depth, and why its the wrong question to ask. We also talk about the underlying "real" question fueling this inquiry and explore what it really might mean! 0:00 Topic Intro 0:54 SM Required Skills 2:50 Who is Asking? 5:07 Technology Background as a Hindrance 7:36 Technology Background as a Benef...

Feb 18, 202240 minSeason 1Ep. 49

AP48 - Anti-Patterns in Your Agility, Part 1

In this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel sit down with our favorite mystery guest - Jessica! Doing the hard work for us (as normal), Jessica brings the patterns she has observed emerging as trends throughout her career that hold back or damage agility... and we do our best to discuss both sides of each! 0:00 Intro (but, a real intro) 0:25 Scrum Master Managers (but, evil ones) 7:25 Non-Evil Scrum Master Managers 11:39 Peer and Community Responsibilities 15:39 Quick Animal Anecdote 16:32 Stand...

Feb 11, 20221 hr 1 minSeason 1Ep. 48

AP47 - Acceptance Criteria in User Stories

In this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss Acceptance Criteria! Focusing on the most granular part of a Story, we discuss what Acceptance Criteria is and what it is not. We also discuss how Acceptance Criteria can be used to empower or improve your Sprint Reviews and discussion with users or stakeholders. 0:00 Intro 0:01 Today's Topic: Acceptance Criteria 1:36 Backlog Items and Negotiating 4:02 Challenging AC / Definition of Done 6:26 Finding User Personas / Finding Value 8:17 Transpare...

Feb 04, 20221 hr 7 minSeason 1Ep. 47

AP46 - Article Review: We Should Stop Trying to Make Scrum Fit for Every Situation

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel take a look at an interesting article titled: "We Should Stop Trying to Make Scrum Fit for Every Situation" by Willem-Jan Ageling. Link to the Article: https://medium.com/serious-scrum/we-should-stop-trying-to-make-scrum-fit-for-every-situation-f04d90cdd117 Source: https://seriousscrum.com/ 0:00 THEME MUSIC! 0:16 Topic Intro - SeriousScrum 1:05 Why We Chose This Article 1:49 #1 One Product 3:47 Examples to Test Rule #1 7:36 Break to Talk About Componen...

Jan 28, 202251 minSeason 1Ep. 46

AP45 - Better Cross-Team Collaboration

In this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss the glue that holds programs, scaled teams of teams, and even small groups of teams together - collaboration! Even small companies and teams have problems talking, working with, and coordinating with other teams. If you've had issues getting teams to work together, this episode is for you! 0:00 Topic Intro 1:31 Challenges to Teams of Integrated Teams 4:57 The Integration Problem Agenda 6:30 But We Know the Problems 11:21 Rotating People 14:30 R...

Jan 21, 20221 hr 12 minSeason 1Ep. 45

AP44 - Product Managers and Their Teams

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel sit down to discuss Product Manager focused ways of doing business where the only constant on the Scrum Teams are the Product Manager and the Developers. We discuss shared services supporting this model of development and talk about examples where divorcing the discovery work from the team led to disaster! 0:00 Intro 0:05 Team Structures 3:13 The Plan for No Scrum Masters 7:01 Agile Coaching and Training Budgets 13:22 Cost of NOT Doing Something - A Fu...

Jan 14, 20221 hr 9 minSeason 1Ep. 44

AP43 - Similarities between Software Development and Animation with Alfonso Guerra

Brian Orlando sits down with Alfonso Guerra to discuss the similarities between software development and animation. While in-flight, we also discuss an array of developer-centric topics such as bad metrics, good and bad dev leads, making time to be creative, and how developers learn. 0:00 Alfonso's Introduction/Background 0:49 Brian's Background 2:36 Measuring Development 5:50 Programming Languages 7:00 College & Programming 8:33 Developers and Bias 11:04 Example of a Bad Metric 14:48 The Pr...

Jan 07, 20222 hr 8 minSeason 1Ep. 43

AP42 - Agile Podcast Year-End Retrospective

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss the product that is the Agile Podcast! We discuss what we've learned this year, what future ideas do we have up our sleeves for shows and guests, and what changes to the product are we thinking about... 0:00 Topic Intro 0:35 Clip-show VS Podcasting 3:30 Product Discussion: 5-Minute Monologue 5:15 Clips from the Agile Podcast 6:42 Takeaway - Splitting Channels 9:43 Clips and Production "Tricks" 13:06 Product Goal of the Podcast 15:26 Future Gues...

Dec 31, 202146 minSeason 1Ep. 42

AP41 - Testing in Agile Software Development

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel talk about the discipline of testing in agile software development. 0:00 Topic Intro 1:08 Scrum Only Has Developers, Right? 2:56 Developers and Testers, Working Together 4:50 How the Best Teams Work 7:48 When to do Estimation? 10:00 Cross-Functional Transition 14:11 Componentized Feature Teams - a New Nightmare 19:23 Business Alignment of Testers 22:33 The Evil Agile Podcast 23:46 Difference Between Testers and Software Engineers 26:29 Teams, Training,...

Dec 24, 20211 hr 13 minSeason 1Ep. 41

AP40 - Interview with Agile Coach: Caurie Waddell

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel sit down with our favorite Agile Coach - Caurie Waddell. We talk through topics such as having a rockstar vs. collaborator team member, dealing with management, Scrum Masters having (or not having) technical skills, as well as negative and positive experiences in Product. 0:00 Intro 0:32 We Only Hire Rockstars 3:25 Example of a Dysfunctional Rockstar 7:19 Management Interference (and what it looks like) 11:11 Choose Your Agility Battles 16:50 Team on a...

Dec 17, 202157 minSeason 1Ep. 40
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