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Arguing Agile

Brian Orlandoarguingagile.com

We're arguing about agile so that you don't have to! 

We seek to better prepare you to deal with real-life challenges by presenting both sides of the real arguments you will encounter in your professional career.

On this podcast, working professionals explore topics and learnings from their experiences and share the stories of Agilists at all stages of their careers. We seek to do so while maintaining an unbiased position from any financial interest.

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Episodes

AP39 - Being More Effective with Surprise Mystery Guest

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel sit down with our favorite Surprise Mystery Guest! Today, we are talking about Sprint Reviews in addition to a dizzying array of other topics including the victim mentality, biases, more effective push-back, a different take on diversity, and muse on why management is so often under-skilled. 0:00 Product Gets What Product Wants 2:31 Effect of Org Placement on Effectiveness 4:40 Pushing Back on Taking More Work 7:22 Setting Expectations (i.e. Saying No ...

Dec 10, 20211 hr 1 minSeason 1Ep. 39

AP38 - Why I'm Done Being a Scrum Master

In this Episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel talk about why Brian is done with being a Scrum Master. We discuss the skills Scrum Masters need to gain and grow to be effective and how teams can use Scrum Masters effectively to help them succeed. 0:00 Done Being a Scrum Master 3:09 Middle Managers in Sprint Reviews 4:13 Get Ready to Deal with This... 8:42 Things Scrum Masters Do 10:31 Assumed Coaching Expertise 12:16 Coaches & Technical Skills 16:00 Let's Try It... 20:20 Continued, Scrum Master...

Dec 07, 202144 minSeason 1Ep. 38

AP37 - Agile Horror Stories with Scrum Master Jamie Leatherman

On this episode, Brian Orlando sits down with Scrum Master Jamie Leatherman to talk about what we've learned from some of the more negative experiences in our careers so that you can hopefully avoid them and maybe even learn from our mistakes! 0:00 Intro 0:30 Victimhood, Authority, & the Scrum Master 3:06 Project Management in Disguise as other Roles 4:25 Story of Undermining Product Managers 5:59 A SAFe Implementation Love Story 9:28 Scaling Broken Promises 10:27 Histrionic (Brian Can't Pro...

Dec 03, 202152 minSeason 1Ep. 37

AP36 - What can Software Development Teams learn from Air Disasters?

What can agile software development teams learn from Air Disasters? On this special "what can we learn" episode, Brian Orlando looks at the history of the research done to increase the safety of modern commercial aviation through training air crews to better work together. 0:00 Intro 0:19 Poor Decisions 1:02 Effectiveness vs. Efficiency 1:49 Some Background 2:22 Concepts 3:13 Theories of Practice & of Situation 5:13 Role Restrictions & Over-Differentiation 6:42 Advocacy & Inquiry 7:5...

Dec 01, 202117 minSeason 1Ep. 36

Agile Podcast E35 - Splitting Teams

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss splitting teams in Agile Software Development. When should you split, how to split the team, when you may not want to split and times when you may want to un-split. Un-split isn't even a real word... 0:00 Intro 0:24 Should we Split? 2:54 Length of the Team Stand-Up 6:25 Ideal Team Sizing 9:01 Real Story of a Team Split 11:12 Team Split - the Undesirable Norm 13:14 Calling any Maintenance Developers! 13:42 Going Back to Forming 15:56 Balance of ...

Nov 26, 20211 hr 2 minSeason 1Ep. 35

Agile Podcast E34 - Reaction to "Agile is Dead" by Dave Thomas

In this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel review and react to the GOTO 2015 talk by Dave Thomas: Agile is Dead. Agile is Dead - Pragmatic Dave Thomas - GOTO 2015 https://youtu.be/a-BOSpxYJ9M 0:00 Intro 0:36 Agile Is Dead - Opening 0:58 Agile is Dead - Rational Unified Process & History 2:54 Agile is Dead - Point 1: Agile is an Adjective 4:33 Discussing Point 1 5:17 Agile is Dead - Point 2: Nouns Sell 6:23 Discussing Point 2 7:51 Agile is Dead - Point 3: Fear Sells 8:31 Discussing Point 3 9...

Nov 23, 202137 minSeason 1Ep. 34

Agile Podcast E33 - QA Engineering with Michael Iglesias

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel sit down with Senior Test Engineer Michael Iglesias to discuss QA Engineering. 0:00 Intro 0:11 QA Engineering vs QA Testing 2:23 QA Engineering Value vs Development Management's Ego 4:48 The Value of QA Automation 7:13 How Creativity Happens? 9:23 Collaboration & Creativity 11:51 Pragmatic Planning Approaches 15:20 Spike Work 18:16 Spike Work - A Real Example 19:56 One Benefit of PO at the Daily Scrum 23:42 This Segue was Slick 24:58 Continuous Edu...

Nov 19, 20211 hr 16 minSeason 1Ep. 33

Agile Podcast E32 - Reaction to the MBA/CSPO Pathology

In this episode, Brian Orlando talks Product Management as he walks through and reacts to two articles from Marty Cagan - the CSPO Pathology and the MBA Pathology. CSPO Pathology: https://svpg.com/the-cspo-pathology/ MBA Pathology: https://svpg.com/the-mba-pathology/ 0:00 Topic Intro 0:20 First Product Manager 0:56 CSPO Pathology: Different Types of Software Teams 3:27 CSPO Pathology: PO vs PM 5:32 CSPO Pathology: Delivery is Just One Small Part 6:45 CSPO Pathology: Process over People 7:39 CSPO...

Nov 01, 202130 minSeason 1Ep. 32

Agile Podcast E30 - User Acceptance Testing in Agile

In this Agile Podcast, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss User Acceptance Testing. Is it necessary in Agile Software Development and if it is, what should it look like in Agile Software Development? 0:00 Topic Intro 0:28 Is it Needed? 5:52 Exploratory Testing for Confidence 7:53 Typical Testers "Owned" by Development 10:23 Who is Involved? 12:15 Responsibility/Accountability for the UAT 16:49 Roadmaps and UAT 19:50 Rolling UAT into DoD 21:21 Design Thinking UAT 23:12 Isn't This Roadmap Item Just...

Oct 29, 20211 hr 1 minSeason 1Ep. 30

Agile Podcast E31 - Project & PMO Cultures

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss work cultures where Projects are prevalent, such as in the traditional PMO (Project Management Office). The discussion begins with a healthy round of what it takes to change cultures and progresses toward the intent and design of most project-based cultures. 0:00 Topic Intro 0:29 Project-Based Cultures 2:58 Change and Culture 4:12 Changing Organizational Culture 5:19 3 P's of Changing Culture 7:31 Only Management can Change the System 10:03 PMO...

Oct 25, 20211 hr 8 minSeason 1Ep. 31

Agile Podcast E29 - Review of "Agile" Job Descriptions

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel review real job descriptions in the agile Software Development space. We've chosen a selection of current job roles to review in order to identify red flags, raise questions to ask in an interview, or to point out what we think are good or bad jobs. 0:00 Topic Intro 1:04 How Companies Write Job Descriptions 2:09 Process for this Podcast 3:06 Scrum Master Advisor 7:04 Business Analyst & Release Train Engineer! 14:09 Senior Scrum Master 16:45 Require...

Oct 22, 20211 hr 17 minSeason 1Ep. 29

Agile Podcast E26 - All About Agile Coaching, Part 1

In this episode of the Agile Podcast, Brian Orlando and Om Patel walk through the basics of Agile Coaching including the path to becoming an Agile Coach, the difference between Scrum Masters or Team Coaches and Enterprise Agile Coaches, and where Agile Coaches should be aligned within an organization. 0:00 Intro 0:14 Topic Intro 2:52 Paths to being an Agile Coach (or SM) 4:23 Scrum Masters from Outside the Industry 5:43 Preconceived Notion Background Theory 11:28 Preconceived Notion Theory Conti...

Oct 01, 202145 minSeason 1Ep. 26

Agile Podcast E25 - Challenging the Status Quo

In this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel are joined by a Special Mystery Guest to talk about Challenging the Status Quo. We discuss typical issues Scrum Masters and Agile Coaches experience in their role as Change-Agent including out-of-control Systems, working with Vendors, and the burden of redundant reports and meetings. 0:00 Intro 0:14 Contracting-to-Perm 3:10 Ignoring Expertise (that You've Paid For) 6:14 Contracting & Perm - More Differences 8:13 Continuing to Challenge the Status Q...

Sep 24, 202158 minSeason 1Ep. 25

Agile Podcast E24 - Career Profile: Om Patel (Enterprise Agile Coach)

On this episode, Brian Orlando interviews co-host Om Patel about his storied career, starting from his first job to his big break into business agility. 0:00 Intro 0:15 Tell Me About Yourself (Career Summary) 3:15 First Job 10:20 Entrance to Agility 17:41 Agile Principles 18:40 Enterprise Agile Coaching 24:10 Working at the Big-Four 31:23 Another Agile Transformation (Sweden/Australia) 33:52 Career Highlights/Landmarks 41:27 Customer Centricity 45:30 Things to Change 47:37 People that Stand-Out ...

Sep 13, 20211 hr 5 minSeason 1Ep. 24

Agile Podcast E23 - Director of Agile Product Owners: Mike Miller

On this episode of the Agile Podcast, Director of Agile Product Owners: Mike Miller graces us with his presence. Mike discusses the ins and outs of Roadmaps, Minimum Viable Product (MVP), building and/or transitioning to Agile cultures, and a host of other related Product Management topics. 0:00 Introduction 0:29 Roadmap from Scratch 3:30 MVP 7:06 Business Value 10:45 Production Metrics & Alignment 14:43 Back to MVP 16:55 Maturity by Doing It 18:42 Minimum Functional Product (aka. Walking Sk...

Sep 07, 20211 hr 21 minSeason 1Ep. 23

Agile Podcast E22 - Interview with a Scrum Trainer: Fred Mastropasqua

In this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel sit down with Certified Scrum Trainer: Fred Mastropasqua. 0:00 Intro 0:17 Scrum Guide Change Process 3:32 Different Orgs Using the Scrum Guide 4:57 Infinite Customization of Scrum 7:29 Segue about Podcast Editing 10:56 Agile Podcast Market 13:24 Agile Purists 16:17 Agile Budgeting (It's Important) 18:51 Issues - When it's Project not Product 22:20 Being Face-to-Face 26:10 Org Changes to Implement Scrum 28:50 Underwater Leadership 31:47 People in Scrum ...

Aug 31, 20211 hr 7 minSeason 1Ep. 22

Agile Podcast E21 - Interview with a Scrum Master: Curtis Lembke

In this episode, Brian Orlando talks with Curtis Lembke. Curtis is a Scrum Master at a Big Four Financial Firm with experience ranging both small and large organizations across several different business domains. We discuss the nature of Business Analysts and their relationships with Product Owners, different metrics that leadership and managers may ask for (and what they should be asking for), and the nature of work as it relates to Agility. 0:00 Business People & Developers Working Togethe...

Aug 23, 20211 hr 15 minSeason 1Ep. 21

Agile Podcast E20 - Twelve Principles of Agile

In this episode, Brian Orlando strips the normal conversations around Agility back to the basics by walking through each of the 12 Principles of the Agile Manifesto. If you are in an organization and are finding dedication to agility (from team members or leadership) lacking, this podcast may be helpful to you! Use it to help create a more concrete list of items you can use to help start those critical conversations that need to take place in order for you to be a more effective change-agent. 0:...

Aug 17, 202137 minSeason 1Ep. 20

Agile Podcast E19 - Metrics for Agile and Transformations

In this episode of the Agile Podcast, Brian Orlando talks about the different types of metrics that software development organizations use. 0:00 Topic Intro 1:21 Flow Rate/Velocity/Forecast 3:16 Percent Committed vs. Delivered 5:28 Team Satisfaction 9:01 Customer Satisfaction 10:11 Prompting for NPS 14:08 Percent of Healthy Accounts 16:08 Transaction Length & Abandoned Transactions 21:43 Backlog Health 26:21 Roadmap Features vs. Technical Features 30:12 Bug Leakage & Triage 35:16 Trainin...

Aug 09, 202141 minSeason 1Ep. 19

Agile Podcast E18 - Undermining Your Agility with Ego

On this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss one of the main threats to not only Agility and Agile Transformations, but general business ventures - ego. This episode was also an experiment in (bad) lighting and cityscape background; we plan to be back in our normal space next week. 0:00 Introductory Banter 0:33 Topic Intro 2:10 Why have Project Managers 5:10 Transformation Challenges 8:06 Sabotaging Agility 9:57 Challenging Gantt Charts 13:40 Utilization Disguised as Capacity Planning 15:...

Aug 01, 202151 minSeason 1Ep. 18

Agile Podcast E17 - Scrum Master's Role in Releases (Planning & Deployment)

In this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel explore the Scrum Master's role in Software Releases. This includes both Release Planning and the actual Software Release Deployments. 0:00 Topic Introduction 2:05 Facilitating Release Planning 5:47 Team's Role in Release Planning 9:50 Scrum Master in Deployments 12:58 Working from your Email 14:27 Tell the Story of Progress (or not) 17:24 Backup or Redundant Communicator 20:10 Large Team vs. Small Team Releases 21:33 Scrum Master Shielding the Team 23...

Jul 29, 202139 minSeason 1Ep. 17

Agile Podcast E16 - Communities of Practice

In this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel discuss Communities of Practice and how they can benefit you and your organization. 0:00 Differences: COI/COP/PMO 3:34 The What (Definitions) 7:03 The Why (the Benefits) 10:03 How to Start 14:50 Challenging the Detractors 16:45 Community Outreach 18:51 COP vs. COI 23:01 Break for #noestimates 27:34 Work Item Sizing & Flow 32:45 COP Example Topic 39:09 Open Cultures 40:54 Trust & Critique 46:44 Starting a COP 52:07 Wrap-up = = = = = = = = = = = ...

Jul 29, 202152 minSeason 1Ep. 16

Agile Podcast E15 - Customizing Your Way Out of Agile

On this episode, Brian talks with Om Patel about when companies customize their implementation of Agile. We discuss our observations and share our experiences with companies that began as Agile organizations and then sub-optimized their agility and also companies that were never Agile to begin with who have customized their implementations of waterfall in order to appear Agile. 0:00 Banter on Consultancies 0:57 Customizing Your Way Out of Agile 4:12 Length of Scrum Events 6:42 High Performing Sp...

Jul 21, 202153 minSeason 1Ep. 15

Agile Podcast E14 - Solo Q&A on Product Management & Product Ownership

In this episode of the Agile Podcast, Brian Orlando answers some questions from comments and feedback (mainly) about Product Ownership. 0:00 Non-relevant Intro 0:28 CSM & CSPO in a Consultancy 1:55 Aligning on Problems, not Solutions 3:45 Connect with Company Direction 4:34 Prioritizing & Being Accountable for Prioritization 6:47 Building Consensus 7:58 Project Example where Consensus Building was Important 10:05 Back to Building Consensus - Leveraging Relationships 12:11 Avoid Becoming ...

Jul 10, 202129 minSeason 1Ep. 14

Agile Podcast E13 - Leadership and Stories from the Military

On this episode, Brian Orlando talks with William Lee about their careers in the United States Air Force. Also discussed are the topics of the old GI Bill versus the new, Post-9/11 GI Bill, separating from the military, and some random stories from our military service. We try to tie the topic back to Agile via a roundabout discussion of Leadership as we see it in the Military and in Corporate America. Quick, ask me how well I think we did on that... 0:00 GI Bill 4:33 Being Away 9:24 Separating ...

Jul 06, 20211 hr 13 minSeason 1Ep. 13

Agile Podcast E12 - Career Progression in Agile

n this episode, Brian Orlando and Om Patel talk about career progression. Starting from college and progressing to Enterprise Agile Coaching and everything in between, we review the tips, hurdles, and strategies to get you where you want to go. 0:00 College 4:59 Impact of Bad Instructors 7:15 Career Starting Paths 9:40 A Tangent about RPG/Mainframes 12:03 Weirdness 12:55 Career Path into Agility 16:40 What is an Agile Coach 20:16 Value over "Metrics" 22:44 Stability and Quality over Quantity 23:...

Jul 02, 202158 minSeason 1Ep. 12

Agile Podcast E11 - How You Know it's Time to Quit

Brian Orlando and Om Patel talk about the times when you know its over. This episode we're joined by two special guests! 0:00 When its Time (Om) 1:59 Outstaying Your Welcome 5:51 Car Talk 7:57 Intangible Company Value 9:59 More Car Talk 11:14 Little Things Add Up 12:13 A New Guest 12:44 Feeling Stagnant 14:52 Your Ego & Titles/Roles 16:46 The Case for Stagnancy 19:20 Inauthenticity at Work 22:27 When its Time (Tricia) 25:15 Abuse, Trauma, & Personality Deficits 28:15 Toxic People/Politic...

Jul 01, 202148 minSeason 1Ep. 11

Agile Podcast E10 - Big Organizations vs. Small Organizations

Brian Orlando and Om Patel talk about the differences between working within Big Organizations versus Small Organizations (for the most part). 0:00 Introductory Banter 2:01 Doing it All Yourself 4:55 Creating & Agreeing on a Roadmap 7:00 Clashes with Traditional Project Management 10:58 Leads in Large/Scaled Organizations 16:12 Having an Agile Coach at the Lead Level 18:34 When Brian was a Matrixed Resource Manager 22:09 Planning for a Team of Leads 28:13 Example of Non-DEV Work & Tracki...

Jun 20, 202156 minSeason 1Ep. 10
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