Episode description

First up, Trudeau makes a surprise visit to see Donald Trump the same week the president-elect promised to slam Canada with 25% tariffs on all goods. Then, Canada’s former ambassador to the U.S. discusses whether the threat is real, and what Canada should do about it. 

Next, it’s a building that very few Canadians ever get to go inside. The Immigration Holding Centre in Toronto detains migrants who are either considered a flight risk, a danger to the public, or can’t be identified. The House gets an exclusive tour of this centre to understand the conditions they face and how their fates are determined. 

Also, an immigration lawyer shares his concerns with Canada’s deportation process; and a top Canadian border official discusses Canada’s approach to deportation and whether his agency is prepared for Trump’s plan to deport millions of undocumented immigrants in the United States.

This episode features the voices of:

• Alexander Panetta, CBC Washington correspondent
• David MacNaughton, former Canadian ambassador to the United States
• Sajjad Bhatti, acting director of immigration enforcement operations division at the Canada Border Services Agency for the GTA
• Minley Lloyd, acting assistant director of immigration enforcement operations division at the Canada Border Services Agency for the GTA
• Jared Will, immigration and refugee lawyer
• Aaron McCrorie, vice-president of intelligence and enforcement at the Canada Border Services Agency