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Episode description
Chris Deaver, author and co-founder of BraveCore, recalls stalking Stephen Covey in his own house, and talks about the key lesson he learned from Steve Jobs, bucking the "expert model", writing a letter to Roy Disney then turning down the reply, the simplicity and power of co-creation, turning Dell around, making others the mission, and working next to a secret lab.