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Episode description
Former CEO and Fortune 50 Global Executive Rebecca Macieira-Kaufmann and Founder of SOFit SF Inc., Lillian So, explain why it’s impossible to be grateful and be in a crisis at the same time, and how optimism is nothing more than trust directed at a purpose.
Hear Rebecca and Lillian’s full interview in Episode 389 of The Action Catalyst.