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As the contemporary rivalry between the US and China heats up, Katie Stallard speaks to the Cold War historian John Delury about the history of subversion and mutual suspicion between the two powers. They discuss Delury’s new book Agents of Subversion: The Fate of John T Downey and the CIA’s Covert War in China, the extent of US intelligence operations in China during the early Cold War, and the lessons for the future of US-China relations.

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How the CIA tried to overthrow Mao Zedong - with John Delury

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