Episode description
Written Summaries: https://www.owltail.com/summaries/15281-Artificial-Intelligence/WK4qL-195-Clara-Sousa-Silva-Searching-for-Signs-ofOther podcast summaries if you're on Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/5-min-summaries
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Original episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lex-fridman-podcast/id1434243584?i=1000527059285