Is Deepseek Worth the Hype?
Feb 04, 2025•42 min•Transcript available on Metacast Episode description
Episode 44: How impactful is the debut of China's AI model, DeepSeek, on the global tech landscape? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) unravel everything you need to know about DeepSeek R1 in this episode, where they also dive deep on how it made waves in the stock market and stirred up conversations across the globe.
This episode dissects the recent frenzy surrounding DeepSeek R1, breaking down why its cost-effective training method shook the tech industry and led to a dramatic decrease in NVIDIA's stock price. Matt and Nathan guide you through their firsthand experiences using the model, exploring its biases, and discuss the implications of China's progress in AI. Plus, they speculate on what this could mean for the future of AI development as other major players strive to keep up.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) DeepSeek R1: AI Bias Exploration
(04:23) Speculation on AI Usage Claims
(07:28) Jevons Paradox and AI Demand
(10:05) New AI Models from China
(14:41) Mismatch Between Hype and Reality
(17:57) DeepSeek's Viral Rise Analysis
(19:59) Local DeepSteak R1 Model Test
(24:34) Game Design Collaboration Limitations
(28:28) Endless Logic Problem Loop
(30:35) Weekend AI Innovation Skepticism
(32:19) Reinforcement Learning Model Fine-Tuning
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Mentions:
DeepSeek: https://www.deepseek.com/
NVIDIA: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/
OpenAI: https://openai.com
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw
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• Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
• Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
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Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog - https://lore.com/
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