Episode description

Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie, co hosts of The New Abnormal, reflect on the past year in American history—and the craziest figures in American politics. Then, Defector editor David Roth and journalist Jeb Lund, the co-hosts of their own podcast called It’s Christmas Town, join the program for a special Fourth of July quiz show segment. Plus! A conversation with author Suzette Mullen about her new memoir, “The Only Way Through Is Out,” which chronicles her experience coming out as a lesbian late in life.

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