Apprenticeships, Sabbaticals & "Good Work" — Steve Schlafman & Matt Yao on slowing down, deprogramming, unlearning, learning from others, deciding to quit, going on a sabbatical, not being jealous anymore, competitiveness and enoughness, finding good work, ambition, the apprenticeship, Downshift, decelerator, marriage, family and reframing money - podcast episode cover

Apprenticeships, Sabbaticals & "Good Work" — Steve Schlafman & Matt Yao on slowing down, deprogramming, unlearning, learning from others, deciding to quit, going on a sabbatical, not being jealous anymore, competitiveness and enoughness, finding good work, ambition, the apprenticeship, Downshift, decelerator, marriage, family and reframing money

The Pathless Path with Paul Millerd
Mar 18, 2024•1 hr 24 min•Ep 180•Transcript available on Metacast
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Steve is a professional coach and the founder of Downshift — the world's first decelerator. He has left a career in venture, but he remains ambitious, it's just that his ambition is now to have a good, multidimentional life, where he can be a good dad for his kids.
Matt has left a traditional path early on to write, travel and discover his own path. When he met Steve, he offered him to become his apprentice and joined Downshift.

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⌛TIMESTAMPS

  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (02:14) - The scripts that Steve & Matt grew up with
  • (05:00) - Slowing down, deprogramming and unlearning
  • (11:52) - The cocoon stage
  • (14:05) - Deciding to quit
  • (18:25) - Learning from others on the path and having children
  • (25:18) - Trust
  • (28:29) - Matt's sabbatical, finding good work
  • (34:26) - No jealousy, competitiveness vs enoughness
  • (39:28) - Matt's apprenticeship with Steve
  • (48:37) - Putting yourself in a place where it's easy to help you
  • (52:35) - Downshift & Ambition
  • (01:03:06) - Marriage & Family
  • (01:10:54) - Reframing money, skiing and oatmeal
  • (01:17:15) - Launching decelerator
  • (01:21:26) - Closing remarks


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