Episode description

In a remarkable and rapid rapprochement, Donald Trump's Secretary of State Marco Rubio has been in Riyadh meeting a Russian delegation to kick off talks about a deal to end the conflict in Ukraine. Who's not at the talks? Ukraine - or any other European leader. Is Russia calling the shots? And why is President Trump so happy to push ahead engaging with Moscow even when it is leaving America's allies dumbfounded?

Douglas Heye is a veteran Republican strategist who reads the politics of DC more closely than almost anyone else. He came into the studio to speak to Emily and Jon about what the MAGA approach to Ukraine means for the world. And later, as Steve Bannon teases the prospect of a potential third term for Donald Trump in the White House, how fragile is the American constitution looking right now?

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