Episode description

The UK is in recession - which means the economy has been shrinking for most of the last year.

What does that do to our standard of living? And what are the political choices that have to be made?

The Tories are still talking about tax cuts - even if that means more cuts to public services. Labour has ditched its mega promise of borrowing 28 billion to invest in the economy.

So what's the way out?

Later, as Putin confesses he found Tucker Carlson a bit of a soft interviewer, we discuss how you do accountable interviewing in an age where 'facts dont matter'.