Episode description

Gone are the days of pussy hats and massive protests. Where is the resistance to Donald Trump’s second term?

Lydia Polgreen and David French join this week to talk about the muted outcry to Trump and Musk’s plans to upend the federal government and where the most effective forms of resistance may show up.

Recommended in this episode:

• “Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter” by Kate Conger and Ryan Mac

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