We think we know our country's leaders. But do we really? Ahead of her first budget day as finance minister, Tova O'Brien met up with Nicola Willis to talk superstitions, power, and the naughtiest thing she's ever done.
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Nicola Willis on power, sacrifice and her mischievous streak | The Long Read from Stuff podcast - Listen or read transcript on Metacast
