Episode description

This week, Vanessa and special guest Micaela Blei explore the theme of Control in Chapter 37 of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix! They discuss Dumbledore’s disclosures, Harry’s anger, and Trelawney’s gift! Throughout the episode we consider the question: what is actually within our control?

Thank you to Marie for this week’s voicemail! Next week we're reading Chapter 38, The Second War Begins, through the theme of Love with Nathalie Folkerts!

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