Episode description

Hear Donald Trump’s former secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, in conversation with Ukrainecast back in May. He discusses what his old boss really thinks about Ukraine, and what another Trump presidency could mean for the war.

He also talks about whether he’d take another top job in the White House - something which, in recent days, he’s been widely tipped to get.

Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko.

The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sara Wadeson.

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