Episode description

What do the Russian people really think about the war?

Former Russian diplomat, Alexander Baukov, and Russia expert, Dr Jade McGlynn, talk through how the war could end.

And we get the latest from the frontline in the Donbass with BBC defence correspondent Jonathan Beale.

Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Gabriel Gatehouse. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Clare Williamson and Drew Hyndman. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Fiona Leach. The assistant editor is Alison Gee and the senior news editor is Jonathan Aspinwall. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480.