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#248 – Norman Naimark: Genocide, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Absolute Power
Lex Fridman Podcast
Dec 13, 2021
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2 hr 25 min
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Norman Naimark is a historian at Stanford, specializing in the history of genocide. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Coinbase:
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OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (07:08) - Stalin and absolute power (21:05) - Dictators and genocide (45:31) - What is genocide (55:38) - Human nature and suffering (1:25:23) - Mao's Great Leap Forward (1:32:37) - North Korea (1:36:30) - Our role in fighting against atrocities (1:45:26) - China (1:49:35) - Hopes for the future and technology (2:04:28) - Advice for young people (2:07:15) - Love and tragedy