Pay transparency—yikes, it’s one of those topics that makes everyone squirm, but avoiding it does more harm than good. Let’s be real: when salaries are shrouded in secrecy, it doesn’t just make things awkward—it allows inequity and mistrust to thrive. And here’s the kicker: people are already talking about pay, just in whispers instead of open, productive conversations. In this episode, Kim and Jason take a no-nonsense approach to tackling the discomfort. From real stories of pay gaps to the tangled emotions and messy realities behind compensation conversations, they discuss how a lack of transparency impacts trust and fairness, and share practical tips for making compensation more equitable. Whether you’re trying to influence change at your organization or navigate these conversations as an employee, this is your guide to addressing one of the workplace’s biggest taboos—without losing your humanity.