![102: Chris Wilson (Ted Leo and the Pharmacists, Hound, Open City) - podcast episode cover](https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/0/0/8/4/0084888f78c6f382/TS_Logo24_iTunesTransRedBG.png)
Episode description
Chris Wilson's exceptional drumming helped establish Ted Leo and the Pharmacists as one of the most compelling bands of their generation. Chris tells Joe about listening to "Rhiannon" on the eight track in his mom's Camaro, losing his father at a young age, learning to be less self-critical, and overcoming a guidance counselor's low expectations to realize his dreams.