The chaos isn’t slowing down, it’s accelerating. In this episode Rick is joined by Will Saletan from The Bulwark to dissect the unfolding turmoil in D.C. and beyond. They discuss Elon Musk's growing influence, Trump's erratic decision-making, the GOP’s shift toward isolationism, and the potential global and domestic fallout from these radical changes. From economic instability and foreign policy upheaval to the looming dangers of reckless governance, the two break down the woodchipper-like destruction of key institutions and its long-term consequences.
Timestamps:
(00:01:17) Where does the DOGE arc end?
(00:07:13) Trump's attitude toward Europeans
(00:14:00) MAGA and expanding the American empire
(00:18:31) "Burn it all down, we'll figure it out later"
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The Chaos Machine | Rick Wilson's The Enemies List podcast - Listen or read transcript on Metacast
