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E. Jean Carroll and attorney Robbie Kaplan join us to share the process and aftermath of Carroll's defamation lawsuit against Donald Trump-- in which a jury just awarded her $83.3 million. What was Trump's vibe in the courtroom? Will he actually pay up? And what does E. Jean plan to do with all that money? Melissa, Kate, and Leah get all these answers and more.

Read the NYT's piece on Robbie Kaplan: "In Trump’s Bitter, Yearslong Brawl With Roberta Kaplan, He Keeps Losing"
Read E. Jean Carroll's 2019 book in which she tells her story: What Do We Need Men For?: A Modest Proposal

Pre-order your copy of Leah's forthcoming book, Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes (out May 13th)
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E. Jean Carroll and Robbie Kaplan on Trump's "Defamation Rampage"

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