In this episode, Natalie and Alex share their own experiences of identity shifts, friendship dynamics, and releasing relationships that were no longer serving them. They talk through the sometimes uncomfortable—but ultimately freeing—process of letting go of the need to be liked by everyone.
From shedding layers of societal expectations to cultivating meaningful relationships rooted in authenticity, this episode unpacks how embracing discomfort and setting boundaries can lead to deeper connections and more aligned friendships.
If you’ve ever felt like you’re walking on eggshells, holding back your truth to keep the peace, or struggling to navigate the grief of losing friendships, this episode will leave you feeling seen, understood, and empowered to put yourself first.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Introduction: Nashville trips, the joy of spontaneous plans, and finding Gilmore Girls energy in Franklin.
09:30 – The appeal of Franklin: Reflecting on the lifestyle, climate, and the idea of a long-term home.
13:30 – Shedding the “shoulds”: How motherhood shakes up identity and helps you rediscover your core.
19:15 – Commitment-phobes unite: Natalie’s surprising journey from non-committal to rooted.
24:10 – Speaking your truth: Breaking free from people-pleasing and embracing discomfort in relationships.
29:50 – Losing friendships: The grief, growth, and reframing what success looks like in relationships.
35:20 – Walking on eggshells: Why it’s okay to let go of dynamics that drain you and the liberation of saying no.
41:10 – Cultivating meaningful relationships: Identifying who energizes you versus who depletes you.
46:30 – The power of intention: How to set boundaries in friendships and create a close-knit, supportive circle.
52:00 – Productivity myths: Why slowing down and doing less can fuel creativity and alignment.
58:45 – Navigating friendships post-motherhood: Why texting back doesn’t define your relationships.
1:05:30 – The importance of presence: How to enjoy small moments and release the pressure of “habit stacking.”
1:12:00 – Final reflections: Raise your standards, stop settling, and step into 2025 with intention and clarity.
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